BAD Offset Null

Hi all. I measure the strain with gauges of half-bridge. I use offset null, but if I change rate samples each time I have nonzero values. I now what is a ghost, but is at - it a method or calculations now which is exactly the rate for me to get the values null on unloaded of the strain gauges?

P.S. I get about rates zero on = 15000 s/s

http://digital.NI.com/public.nsf/allkb/73CB0FB296814E2286256FFD00028DDF

I'm guessing you already read that, will depend on so the real answer to how fast you can taste on the impedance of the system and how fast can stabilize a load high-impedance switching between channels.

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Hello

I'm trying to use the example
load_cell_null_off_shuntcal.VI with a scale of full-bridge (Honeywell
Model 31, not amplified). I'm using LabView 8.6, cDAQ-9172 and NI9237. The
load cell is connected to the pins 2,3,6 and 7.

Entries for the front side of the VI
are: excitation10V internal; mV/V 2.1492 (calibration sheet); weight max 10
lbs; resistance bridge 350 ohms (Honeywell specifications); 9237 shunt internal
100 kohm resistance; map of shunt R4 (default setting). I chose
"Do not offset null" and "shunt cal.

This is the error I get:

Error-200077 occurred at DAQmx
Do a calibration Shunt (bridge) .vi:1 or the possible reasons:

Measurements: Requested value is not
support for this property value.

Property:
AI. Bridge.ShuntCal.GainAdjust

You asked:-61.980405e3

Valid values begin with: 500.0e - 3

Valid values ending with: 1.500000

If the "shunt cal.
green button is not selected, there is no error. I understand that the Gain
Change value should be approximately 1, whereas I get is much larger. The Subvi DAQmx PerformShuntCalibration
.VI (bridge) contains a "Call library function node" which I did not
find out how interrogate.

Someone else has experience
with this error? Do you have any advice on:

1)
How to 'see' the calculations being
carried out inside the "call library function node"?

2)
What the correct shunt element
a full-bridge load cell location is? (although changing this location only)
does not eliminate the error, I can't find this info).

3)
What can I do wrong with
my entries to cause this error?

Thank you

Claire.

Hi Claire,

You must physically connect the SC of arm of the bridge terminals (normally R3). The terminal is not provided for the connection of external resistors.

See the example

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Hi TobyD,

This seems to be a variation on the other problem you have linked, CAR #4HDABJ0O in the legacy CAR Pb, alias #198928 in the BD of CAR new CAR.

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It seems that the #198928 CAR should be fixed in the next version of DAQmx. Until then, the workaround is to create separate tasks for execution of the offset null calibration on each module. Note that you can query the AI. Property Bridge.InitialVoltage of each channel to these separate tasks, then set it on every channel in a combined task, so that you can perform your actual purchase by using the combined task. You need only to separate the tasks of calibration offset null real.

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load cell 9237 + full-bridge: load cell_null_off_shuntcal.vi - error 200077

I try to use load_cell_null_off_shuntcal.vi with load cell (Honeywell model 31, not amplified). I'm using LabView 8.6, cDAQ-9172 and NI9237. Entries: excitation10V internal; mV/V 2.1492 (calib. bin); weight 10 lbs max. resistance bridge 350 ohms (Honeywell specifications); 9237 internal shunt resistance 100 kohm; map of shunt R4 (default setting). Selected "offset null" and "shunt cal.

Error-200077 occurred to Shunt calibration perform DAQmx
. VI:1 (bridge) or the possible reasons:

Measurements: Requested value is not a supported value for
This property.

Property: I. Bridge.ShuntCal.GainAdjust

You asked:-61.980405e3

Valid values begin with: 500.0e - 3

Valid values ending with: 1.500000

If "shunt cal' green button not selected, no error. Setting the gain should be about 1. Subvi DAQmx PerformShuntCalibration (bridge) .vi contains "Call library function node" which is locked (?).

Any ideas?

What is the location of item correct shunt for a full-bridge load cell? Change this location does not eliminate the error.

Hello, YTC,.

The problem is most likely in your external connections of the NI 9237 and the load cell. As mentioned in NI 9237 Operating Instructions and specifications, page 9, SC + SC - pins must be connected to the terminals of the resistance specified in the .vi of Shunt calibration perform DAQmx (bridge) (in the case of a full bridge, it would be R3).

Let me know if you still have problems with your calibration.

1520 strain no reading

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SCXI chassis, the module of 1520, 1314 accessory; 6062E pcmcia.

Half bridge 350 ohm (type II), and even that (checked by manual measurement with multimeter) shunt resistors. Self excitation (2, 5V).

I want to measure the strain but cannot. When I started to acquisition, an initial value is shown, say,-200. The value decreases at a constant rate until it reaches autour-970, remains constant.

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P - P voltage +: 2.49V

Voltage output - P: - 1.24

Output voltage - P'+: 1.24

Voltage at the terminals of R4: 1.24 V

Voltage at the terminals of the R3: 1.24 V

P + - Vout resistance: 350 ohms

Resistance P - Vout: 350 ohm

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After checking with the multimeter is everything as should be, I changed full bridge configuration in order to access with the meter at each point in the bridge and provide measures.

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