filter of signal distortion

Hello everyone. I'm trying to filter a signal using filter Butterworth that VI included with LabView. The problem I have is that it is a signal in time real get sampled at a certain speed with a certain block of samples. The filter seems to do its job properly for all samples in the middle of the block, but it doesn't for the first part.

I have attached two picture to show the difference with and without the filter. It is a sine wave.

I think that the problem comes from the Convolution of the input signal filter and distort the signal in this way. I was hoping people can say this is the problem and help me to find a way to a solution.

I can show you my code as well, but to me, that this is a general problem with filtering, rather than my code. If you think I'm wrong please tell me.

David.


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