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• vSphere Essentials Plus - with no no hosts file information.

  We recently bought Essentials Plus (ESXi4).

  To get working HA, I need to change my hosts file on both servers I use as ESXi4 keeps forgetting to put the hostname after the FULL domain name.

  That is to say, I get:

  x.x.x.x hostname.domain.com

  Instead of

  x.x.x.x hostname.domain.com hostname

  Modification of the file/etc/hosts to fix allows me to turn on HA.

  However.  Whenever I have restart a server, the file loses the game again host name on the rebooted server.

  Is there any solution for this?  Edit the hosts file after every reboot is a pain.

  We are in the installer restart so many phase.

  Why don't you just do your ESXes can be solved by the redundant DNS servers?

  ---

  MCSA, MCTS, VCP, VMware vExpert 2009

  http://blog.vadmin.ru

• implementation of the Hosts file on the server for the entire network?

  I see a lot of information on how to edit the local Hosts file on individual computers. But, is it possible to edit a Hosts file and have effect throughout the network?

  We have a network of a little over half a dozen of Mac mini, who take their DNS information from another Mac Mini running the application server OSX (under El Capitan). This server is the primary DNS machine for the network. I want to implement a Hosts file for the entire network.

  Parental control seems to be broken in OSX El Capitan, so this seems like the best next to us, short option to buy some third-party service, which I prefer not to do.

  I think that dnsmasq installation on your Mac server and configuration of all your computers to use as your "DNS Server" will achieve what you want.

  See osx https://oracle-base.com/articles/misc/dnsmasq-for-simple-dns-configurations-mac-

  Why do you feel you must do this?

• Corrected the host file corrupted, now showing 2 host files in XP

  I have a corrupt host file and 2 host files have now for some reason any. What to do to fix this?

  After explaining all this several times, here are some notes:

  The hosts file is a read-only file, hidden system.  It is just a text file that you can manipulate with WordPad, Notepad or any text editor.  Before you modify the hosts file, make a copy of the current in case you need to restore the original.

  The hosts file is (or should be) a file read-only, which means that if change you it, you will not be able to save the changes until you remove the read only attribute of the file.

  You may be able to create a new one or reset your hosts with Microsoft Help file:

  http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/972034 (this does work as expected the last time I tried).

  If you use the Fix It from Microsoft, you will have no hosts file when you're done (which is not necessarily a bad thing) so you can just read and follow the instructions to find out how to fix it yourself.

  Some third-party software analysis tools (like Spybot) may add entries to the hosts file on purpose to block your browser from loading WWW websites completely or block ads from certain sites WWW.  They claim to have a list of sites that most of the people want to block and insert them into your file hosts for you.  You can always delete the entries in the hosts file manually if you wish.

  Another good option to block ads sites is to use Firefox with the Adblock Plus extension (it is updated regularly with new sites).  If you use that combination, you don't have to worry about your hosts file and these two together really do a good job.

  Malware can also add entries in the host file to redirect the browser to another site than the one you really want to visit WWW.

  For example, if you try to browse to www.google.com, you can find yourself on a WWW site that is inappropriate or simply an advertisement for a product you never heard and do not want.  Your browser will always be redirected away from www.google.com until correct you the hosts file.

  The malware can also modify your hosts file to block your browser to go to Web sites where you might find a solution for how to remove the malicious software.  The malware sometimes knows what you're going to try to find and remove, so it will prevent you to do so.

  If your hosts file has been manipulated by malware, edit the hosts file does not remove the malware.  You will still need to scan your system with software tools to make sure that the malware has entirely disappeared.

  Malware analysis tools can also remove the malicious software and leave the bad entries in the hosts file.  Analytical tools cannot tell if the entries in the file hosts were made on purpose or by malware you still may need to edit the file hosts manually in case of redirection of the browser once the malware has been removed.

  Some analytical tools will report changes to the hosts as a suspect file and allow you to review the changes and allow you to decide whether the changes are appropriate, and to take action.

  Sometimes, analytical tools cannot tell if the entries in the hosts file have been put there by malicious software or you put there on purpose so cannot do not report any problems with the hosts file.  This does not mean that the hosts file has not been adjusted by malicious software.

  A hosts file is not required for your browser to operate.  If you suspect a problem with the hosts file, you can rename the hosts file and test your browsing without it.

  Always reboot your system and the navigation test after making changes to the hosts file.

  To manipulate the hosts file, you need to make hidden files not hidden and remove the attribute only read the hosts file.

  In Explorer, navigate to the following folder (assuming that Windows is installed on your C drive):

  c:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc

  Click on tools. Of files, display options.  In advanced settings, enable (check) the box option for:

  Display the hidden files and folders

  Click OK.

  The hosts file has also no extension (for example, .exe or .doc) and it may be useful to also see the file extensions for all files in
  the folder.  While you adjust the display of folder options, bring up the file extensions.

  Click on tools, Options, view.  In advanced settings, clear (uncheck) the box:

  Hide extensions of known file types

  Click OK.

  Now the hosts file must be visible and you can also see the file extensions.

  Make a copy of the current hosts file and name the copy something he can remember so that you can find it later and cancel
  any change if the changes don't work or things get worse.

  The host file is usually a single reading, so to change it, you must remove the read-only attribute:

  Make a right-click the hosts file, properties, uncheck the box that says:

  Read-only

  Click OK.

  Now you can edit the hosts file with a text editor (Notepad, Wordpad).  Be sure to save the hosts file after any changes.

  You will need to decide what is in your hosts file.  The default hosts file has only one entry (and a lot of comments) so if you think that the hosts file are the part of your question, you can remove all but the default entry and save the file.

  Always reboot your system and the navigation test after making changes to the hosts file.

  You should make hosts read-only folder again when you are finished making changes.  Obviously some programs or malware do not pay attention to the attributes of a file read-only, but it is advisable for the host file to be unalterable.

  If you want to, reverse explore changes to hide system files and extensions of known file types.

  If you think your hosts file is irretrievably, replace the contents with the default values of Windows.

  The default for Windows XP hosts file looks like this:

  # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
  #
  # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
  #
  # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
  # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address must
  # be placed in the first column, followed by the corresponding host name.
  # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
  space #.
  #
  # In addition, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
  # lines or following the name of the machine indicated by a symbol "#".
  #
  # For example:
  #
  # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
  # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

  127.0.0.1 localhost

  There are places on the Internet to download information to your hosts file which is based on what other people think your hosts file must block or allow for your Internet browsing.  Sometimes that works very well, but you now need to know more on the manipulation of the hosts file now so that you can decide what's best for your environment.

  Here's some additional reading on how to manipulate your hosts file:

  http://www.MVPs.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

  This is a user-friendly tool with a graphical interface (GUI) to help you work on your hosts file:

  http://www.Funkytoad.com/index.php?option=com_content&ID=13

• Hijacked hosts file

  This system had a fake antivirus program. I used the restoration of the system to 01/03/11. However, Hijackthis cannot delete following text was found on a Windows XP system located in c:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\etc\hosts

  # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
  #
  # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
  #
  # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
  # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address must
  # be placed in the first column, followed by the corresponding host name.
  # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
  space #.
  #
  # In addition, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
  # lines or following the name of the machine indicated by a symbol "#".
  #
  # For example:
  #
  # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
  # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

  127.0.0.1 localhost
  74.50.127.5 www.google.com
  74.50.127.5 www.google.com.au
  74.50.127.5 www.google.be
  74.50.127.5 www.google.com.br
  74.50.127.5 www.google.ca
  74.50.127.5 www.google.ch
  74.50.127.5 www.google.de
  74.50.127.5 www.google.dk
  74.50.127.5 www.Google.com
  74.50.127.5 www.google.ie
  74.50.127.5 www.google.it
  74.50.127.5 www.google.co.jp
  74.50.127.5 www.google.nl
  74.50.127.5 www.google.no
  74.50.127.5 www.google.co.nz
  74.50.127.5 www.google.pl
  74.50.127.5 www.google.se
  74.50.127.5 www.google.co.uk
  74.50.127.5 www.google.co.za
  74.50.127.5 www.bing.com
  74.50.127.5 search.yahoo.com
  74.50.127.5 uk.search.yahoo.com
  74.50.127.5 ca.search.yahoo.com
  74.50.127.5 de.search.yahoo.com
  74.50.127.5 fr.search.yahoo.com
  74.50.127.5 au.search.yahoo.com
  74.50.127.5 www.google-analytics.com

  Any help to eliminate this problem will be greatly appreciated.

  The hosts file is a read-only file, hidden system.  It is just a text file that you can manipulate with WordPad, Notepad or any text editor.  Before you modify the hosts file, make a copy of the current in case you need to restore the original.

  You may be able to create a new one or reset your hosts with Microsoft Help file:

  http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/972034 (this does work as expected the last time I tried).

  If you use the Fix It from Microsoft, you will have no hosts file when you're done (which is not necessarily a bad thing) so you can just read and follow the instructions to find out how to fix it yourself.

  Some third-party software analysis tools (like Spybot) may add entries to the hosts file on purpose to block your browser from loading WWW websites completely or block ads from certain sites WWW.  They claim to have a list of sites that most of the people want to block and insert them into your file hosts for you.  You can always delete the entries in the hosts file manually if you wish.

  Malware can also add entries in the host file to redirect the browser to another site than the one you really want to visit WWW.

  For example, if you try to browse to www.google.com, you can find yourself on a WWW site that is inappropriate or simply an advertisement for a product you never heard and do not want.  Your browser will always be redirected away from www.google.com until correct you the hosts file.

  The malware can also modify your hosts file to block your browser to go to Web sites where you might find a solution for how to remove the malicious software.  The malware sometimes knows what you're going to try to find and remove, so it will prevent you to do so.

  If your hosts file has been manipulated by malware, edit the hosts file does not remove the malware.  You will still need to scan your system with software tools to make sure that the malware has entirely disappeared.

  Malware analysis tools can also remove the malicious software and leave the bad entries in the hosts file.  Analytical tools cannot tell if the entries in the file hosts were made on purpose or by malware you still may need to edit the file hosts manually in case of redirection of the browser once the malware has been removed.

  Some analytical tools will report changes to the hosts as a suspect file and allow you to review the changes and allow you to decide whether the changes are appropriate, and to take action.

  Sometimes, analytical tools cannot tell if the entries in the hosts file have been put there by malicious software or you put there on purpose so cannot do not report any problems with the hosts file.  This does not mean that the hosts file has not been adjusted by malicious software.

  A hosts file is not required for your browser to operate.  If you suspect a problem with the hosts file, you can rename the hosts file and test your browsing without it.

  Always reboot your system and the navigation test after making changes to the hosts file.

  To manipulate the hosts file, you need to make hidden files not hidden and remove the attribute only read the hosts file.

  In Explorer, navigate to the following folder (assuming that Windows is installed on your C drive):

  c:\Windows\system32\drivers\etc

  Click on tools. Of files, display options.  In advanced settings, enable (check) the box option for:

  Display the hidden files and folders

  Click OK.

  Hosts file has no extension, but some system files have extensions, and it may be useful to also see the file extensions for all files.  While you adjust the display of folder options, bring up the file extensions.

  Click on tools, Options, view.  In advanced settings, check (tick) in the box:

  Hide extensions of known file types

  Click OK.

  Now the hosts file must be visible.

  Make a copy of the current hosts file and name the copy something he can remember so that you can find it later and undo the changes if the changes do not work, or worse still, things become.

  The host file is usually a single reading, so to change it, you must remove the read-only attribute:

  Make a right-click the hosts file, properties, uncheck the box that says:

  Read-only

  Click OK.

  Now you can edit the file hosts with a text editor.  Be sure to save the hosts file after any changes.

  You will need to decide what is in your hosts file.  The default hosts file has only one entry (and a lot of comments) so if you think that the hosts file are the part of your question, you can remove all but the default entry and save the file.

  Always reboot your system and the navigation test after making changes to the hosts file.

  You should make hosts read-only folder again when you are finished making changes.  Of course some programs or malware do not pay attention to the attributes of a file read-only, but it is advisable to
  the hosts of the file to be read-only.

  If you want to, reverse explore changes to hide system files and extensions of known file types.

  If you think your hosts file is irretrievably, replace the contents with the default values of Windows.

  The default for Windows XP hosts file looks like this:

  # Copyright (c) 1993-1999 Microsoft Corp.
  #
  # This is a sample HOSTS file used by Microsoft TCP/IP for Windows.
  #
  # This file contains the mappings of IP addresses to host names. Each
  # entry should be kept on an individual line. The IP address must
  # be placed in the first column, followed by the corresponding host name.
  # The IP address and the host name should be separated by at least one
  space #.
  #
  # In addition, comments (such as these) may be inserted on individual
  # lines or following the name of the machine indicated by a symbol "#".
  #
  # For example:
  #
  # 102.54.94.97 rhino.acme.com # source server
  # 38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host

  127.0.0.1 localhost

  There are places on the Internet to download information to your hosts file which is based on what other people think your hosts file must block or allow for your Internet browsing.  Sometimes that works very well, but you must now find out more about the manipulation of the hosts file so that you can decide what's best for your environment.

  Here's some additional reading on how to manipulate your hosts file:

  http://www.MVPs.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

  This is a user-friendly tool with a graphical interface (GUI) to help you work on your hosts file:

  http://www.Funkytoad.com/index.php?option=com_content&ID=13

• System Restore and the host file

  How do you keep restoring the system to unblock web sites in the hosts file?

  Hello

  System Restore is not designed to do what you want it to do.

  A system restore point contains the settings of the computer at that moment in time.

  It's the idea of system restore.

  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-pH/Windows-Vista/what-is-system-restore

  "System Restore helps you restore system files from your computer to an earlier point in time. Is a way to cancel the system changes to your computer without affecting your personal files.

  "These restore points contain information about registry settings and other system information that Windows uses."

  See you soon.

• Cannot change the Vista hosts file

  I started Notepad as administrator and open my hosts file, made my changes, but when I try to save it I get this message: cannot create the c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file verify that the path and the name are correct

  How to save this file? Thanks for any help!

  Hello

  The host files are linked to the internet explore and this is why it must be very careful when you change them. And this is the reason why they were safe as to change. We have a FixIT tool to assign default host files. It's here.
  http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/972034 also, here is the article that explains how to change the host files and the Lmhosts file in Windows Vista and Windows 7. You cannot change the Hosts file or the Lmhosts file in Windows Vista and Windows 7
  http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/923947

   

  I hope this information helps you!

• Why the hosts file is reset periodically?

  Hello, I would like to redirect an IP address to a localhost, but whenever something comes back the original contents of the hosts file.

  I open windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts with Notepad under run as administrator, and then make a change in the hosts file. All new Vett are redirecting to localhost (127.0.0.1), but suddenly some time my hosts file is returned to the original state.

  My system runs Windows Vista x 64-bit edition.
  What can change my hosts file and how to make a constant change in it?

  Best regards
  Voronkov Konstantin

  Konstantin,

  I'm not familiar with VPNS modifying the file hosts as Brian suggested. Also, VPNS are a bit outside the scope of support here in answers and if you need more information about the VPN, I would recommend display in TechNet Windows Vista Networking:

  http://social.technet.Microsoft.com/forums/en-us/itprovistanetworking/threads

  From personal experience, I find some antivirus software will monitor and restore the hosts file. If the host file is always reset to 0, you can perform a clean boot, use the system and see if the file resets. If not, it means that something in startup is reset the hosts file and from there you can determine what startup item is causing the problem.

  Check out the link below for instructions to boot:

  http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/929135

  I hope this helps!

  Cody C
  Microsoft Answers Support Engineer
  Visit our Microsoft answers feedback Forum and let us know what you think.

• Cannot change the hosts file in Windows Vista Home Premium

  Posted on behalf of a client:

  Cannot change the hosts file in Windows Vista Home Premium. Read-only value.

  Help, please.

  Hello

  I suggest you to try the steps below and check if it helps.

  Method 1: Try to take possession of the host file and check to see if the same problem happens.

  To apply permissions to a file or a folder:

  a. right click on the file or folder and then click Properties.

  b. click the Security tab and then click Edit.

  c. do one of the following:

  ·         To set permissions for a user who is not listed under group or user names, click Add, type the name of the user or group, click OK, select permissions and then click OK.

  ·         To change or remove permissions for a user or an existing group, click the name of the user or group, select the permissions and then click OK.

  For more information, see the article mentioned below:

  What to know before applying permissions to a file or a folder:

  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/troubleshoot-access-denied-when-opening-files-or-folders

  Prevent changes to a file or folder (read-only):

  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/prevent-changes-to-a-file-or-folder-read-only

  Hope this information is useful.

• How you code multilevel subpages in the bb-hosts file?

  I'm trying to create multilevel subpages in the bb-hosts file and I am so far unsuccessful. I want to create a hierarchy like this:

  From the main screen of BB have a page called "SAP systems". When I select this page, do display sub-pages for the 'Production', 'Test', etc. If I choose the Test, it displays the sub-pages for each test SID T00, T01, T02, etc., and then select the SID to see the info on the database server and application server.

  (high level BB of the screen)

  SAP systems

  Select SAP systems and get a subpage that displays

  Production systems

  Test systems

  Select one of these subpages, and it will display a different set of subpages, one for each SID (for example, T00, T01, etc.). For example, to select the test systems and poster of the subpages for

  T00

  T01

  T02

  Select one of these subpages, and then you get information about the database servers and servers of applications for this SID.

  I found a link on the basis of knowledge of quest and the screens of the sample have been what I was looking for, but the file bb-hosts that they did not have their screens.

  Thank you

  You can create an additional level of exploration down by setting up areas of the screen. Doing will change the default URL to your BBDISPLAY. To do this:

  1. change $BBHOME/etc/bbdef-server.sh (%BBHOME%\etc\bbdef.cfg on Windows).

  2 set BBCURRDISP = 'something'

  3. change your bb-hosts (bb - hosts.cfg on Windows) file and use the 'view' token to create the third level of exploration down that you are looking for, something like:

  # Your bb-hosts file

  192.168.33.16 bbpe - BBDISPLAY BBNET DOWNLOAD fc001.quest.com # http://localhost/bb

  display sap_systems

  page prodsystems of Production systems

  subpage t01 t01
  Group-compress SIDS
  0.0.0.0 t00 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 t01 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 t02 # noconn

  subpage t02 t02
  Group-compress SIDS
  0.0.0.0 t00 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 t01 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 t02 # noconn

  subpage t03 t03
  Group-compress SIDS
  0.0.0.0 t00 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 t01 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 t02 # noconn

  page testsystesm Test Systems

  Group-compress my systesm test

  subpage u00 u00
  Group-compress SIDS
  0.0.0.0 u00 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 u01 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 u02 # noconn

  subpage u01 u01
  Group-compress SIDS
  0.0.0.0 u00 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 u01 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 u02 # noconn

  subpage u02 u02
  Group-compress SIDS
  0.0.0.0 u00 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 u01 # noconn
  0.0.0.0 u02 # noconn

  Note: Parameter BBCURRDISP = 'something' will change the default URL of your BBDISPLAY to http://bbserver/bb/something/bb.html

• Windows 7 Professional 64-bit - Hosts file is apparently ignored

  As the title says, my hosts file is apparently ignored. I did a reset of the hosts (via msfixit) file and tried to edit again, but these changes are apparently ignored.

  I'm not sure what other information can be useful, but I'll answer when asked.

  Thank you!

  Hi James,

  As well as the idea common in the glue , I would post the question in the Internet Explorer forum as well. They are a team dedicated to helping these questions. They will be able to guide you to the best.

• Event Viewer error "there was an error while trying to read the local hosts file." file "hosts" but good

  Hello

  In Event Viewer, I see a lot of mistakes like:

  Source: The customers DNS events

  There was an error trying to read the local hosts file.

  I read that threat indicating to rename the hosts for "hosts" file

  http://answers.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows/Forum/Windows_7-networking/system-log-shows-repeating-error-code-3221225485/3700e855-ded4-4F12-960f-1577f6132c04

  HOWEVER, the name of the file in my computer appears as it should

  C:/Windows/System32/drivers/etc / "hosts".

  and the content of the file is as it is supposed to be according to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/972034

  What should I do to fix this error?

  P.S. I suspect my computer is compromised. Last weekend, Security Essentials has reported a malicious file backdoor and it has been deleted, but I have a weird behavior of the computer

  Thank you

  Veronica

  Try to re-create the hosts file.

  Open Notepad as administrator (click right on the Notepad icon or shortcut and click Run as admin) and type the following information in it:

  127.0.0.1 localhost

  : 1 localhost

  The '1' in the '127.0.0.1' must be in the first column of the line and there must be at least one space between "127.0.0.1" and "localhost". In the second line, there must be at least one space between ": 1" and "localhost".

  Save the file with name "hosts" in the C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc folder.

  Source: http://www.sevenforums.com/system-security/130518-hosts-file-missing-should-i-worry.html

  You seem to have a hard drive problem. Please provide a copy of your system information file. Type the system information in the search box above the Start button and press the ENTER key (alternative is select Start, all programs, accessories, System Tools, system information). Select file, Export and give the file a name noting where it is located. Not to place the cursor in the body of the report before exporting the file. The system creates a new information file system each time system information is available. You must allow a minute or two before the file is completely filled before exporting a copy. Please download to your OneDrive (formerly Sky Drive), share with everyone and post a link here. Normal mode preferred report. Please say if the report was obtained in safe mode.

• How to change or update the host file?

  When I installed WIn7, I created a user account that is an administrator based on user account information.

  Now, I want to change the host file but it always respond that I have to use the administrator account to save the host file.  I tried to change the security in the prosperity of the host, but it does not allow me to do.

  Appreciate someone can walk me through step by step.

  Thank you very much

  Open Notepad as administrator (right click on the Notepad shortcut and choose "Run as Administrator") then open and edit the HOST file using this instance of Notepad.  (Via the menu "open file of-->".)

  Geographical area:

  C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\

  or

  %SystemRoot%\system32\drivers\etc\

• Host file backup problem after the edition of windows 7

  After edfiting the host file, it informs that you don't have permission to save in the in the location of the folder designated you edited it how save you in the original folder?  It only saves it in the documents folder

  You must run the program that you use to change the hosts file by right click and choose Run as administrator

  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows7/how-do-I-run-an-application-once-with-a-full-administrator-access-token

  http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/923947

• where is the host file?

  Hello! I have a problem when installing. Help online (https://helpx.adobe.com/mx/x-productkb/policy-pricing/activation-network-issues.html), it seems that I must modify the 'host '. The first step is to "find the host file. How can I do this? I'm on a mac under El Capitan.

  I think it's on Windows, but the read for blocked check hosts file entries https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1912777

  If you try to install something else that the latest versions of Cloud programs, read below

  Maybe it's a fake because of Mac El Capitan and OLD programs error

  This information is a MUST to install old programs on Mac El Capitan

  -You can't get the same error message, but these two links will help with older programs

  Install CS5 on Mac 10.11 https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2003455 can help (also for others than CS5)

  -also a TEMPORARY security change https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2039319

  FAQ on the Mac 10-11 https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1979303