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  I've just updated to Mac OS 10.8.2 Mountain Lion (from 10.8.1 precedent) and suddenly my Macbook Air (2011) crashes whenever I run Fusion. I had Fusion 4.1.3. I also tried to install Fusion 5 but seems to have the same problem.

  The application should start and I see VMWare Fusion in the menu bar (but not yet windows), in a few seconds the machine would crash and I get the grey screen "to the death".

  After you reboot the machine, here's the log of kernel panic:

  Interval since the last report of panic: 456 s
  Panic since the last report: 4
  Anonymous UUID: 22BFA57B-284B-4121-2C4C-EA954C1B8A3D

  My Sep 19 14:24:06 2012
  panic (cpu 0 0xffffff80302b7b95 appellant): Kernel trap at 0xffffff803059f12f, type 14 = page fault, registers:
  CR0: 0 X 0000000080010033, CR2: 0XFFFFFF801006C2D6 CR3: 0X000000003DEA7046 CR4: 0X00000000000606E0
  RAX: 0XFFFFFF801006C2CA, RBX: 0XFFFFFF8040055418 RCX: 0X1006C2CA3F5FC127 RDX: 0X00FFFFFFFFFFFFFF
  RER: 0XFFFFFF80AFFD3AE8, RBP: 0XFFFFFF80AFFD3CF0, IHR: 0XFFFFFF80AFFD3C40, RDI: 0XFFFFFF8040055418
  R8: 0 X 0000000000000000, R9: 0XFFFFFF80AFFD3CB0, R10: 0XFFFFFF80AFFD3B28 R11: 0 X 0000000000000206
  R12: 0XFFFFFF80AFFD3AF0, R13: 0XFFFFFF80AFFD3D78, R14: 0XFFFFFF803BCFE8C0 R15: 0XFFFFFF80AFFD3C40
  RFL: 0 X 0000000000010286, RIP: 0XFFFFFF803059F12F, CS: 0000000000000008, SS 0 X: 0 X 0000000000000010
  Lack of CR2: 0xffffff801006c2d6, error code: 0 x 0000000000000000, CPU error: 0x0

  Backtrace (CPU 0), frame: return address
  0xffffff80affd3780: 0xffffff803021d5f6
  0xffffff80affd37f0: 0xffffff80302b7b95
  0xffffff80affd39c0: 0xffffff80302ce4ad
  0xffffff80affd39e0: 0xffffff803059f12f
  0xffffff80affd3cf0: 0xffffff7fb1d7bb8b
  0xffffff80affd3d10: 0xffffff8030320bfd
  0xffffff80affd3d60: 0xffffff8030311e84
  0xffffff80affd3dd0: 0xffffff8030308419
  0xffffff80affd3e20: 0xffffff803054ae63
  0xffffff80affd3e50: 0xffffff8030577a83
  0xffffff80affd3f50: 0xffffff80305e17da
  0xffffff80affd3fb0: 0xffffff80302cecf3
  Extensions of core in backtrace:
  com VMware.kext.vsockets (90.4.22) [B1355150-CEB3-34FD-A845-D8AE0332C233] @0xffffff7fb1d7b000-> 0xffffff7fb1d8afff
  dependency: com.vmware.kext.vmci (90.4.18) [2F1EA4A6-14DF-39C7-926F-30E36215923B] @0xffffff7fb1d69000

  Corresponding to the current thread BSD process name: vsock

  Mac OS version:
  12 C 54

  Kernel version:
  Darwin Kernel Version 12.0.0: Sun Jun 24 23:00:16 CDT 2012; root:XNU-2050.7.9~1/RELEASE_X86_64
  Kernel UUID: 8D5F8EF3-9D12-384B-8070-EF2A49C45D24
  Slide kernel: 0 x 0000000030000000
  Text of core base: 0xffffff8030200000
  Name of system model: MacBookAir4, 2 (Mac-742912EFDBEE19B3)

  Availability of the system in nanoseconds: 58856771689
  last load kext to 58788024042: com.vmware.kext.vmx86 0080.25.07 (addr 0xffffff7fb1d95000 size 61440)
  kexts responsible:
  com VMware.kext.vmx86 0080.25.07
  com VMware.kext.vmnet 0080.25.07
  com VMware.kext.vsockets 90.4.22
  com VMware.kext.VMCI 90.4.18
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  com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC 1.60
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  com.apple.driver.ApplePlatformEnabler 2.0.5d4
  com.apple.driver.AppleTyMCEDriver 1.0.2d2
  com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver 122
  com.apple.driver.AppleHDAHardwareConfigDriver 2.3.0f2
  com.apple.driver.AppleHDA 2.3.0f2
  com.apple.driver.AppleSMCPDRC 1.0.0
  com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU 2.0.2d0
  com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet 1.0.0d1
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  com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons 235,4
  com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver 235,4
  com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 235,4
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  com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib 1.0.0d1
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  com.apple.driver.XsanFilter 404
  com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage 2.2.0
  com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub 5.1.6
  com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331 600.15.20
  com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort 2.4.0
  com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI 5.1.5
  com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI 5.1.5
  com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM 1.6.1
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  Model: MacBookAir4 2, MBA41.0077.B0F of BootROM, 2 processors, Intel Core i5, 1.7 GHz, 4 GB, MSC 1.73f65
  Graphics card: Intel HD Graphics 3000, Intel HD Graphics 3000, integrated, 384
  Memory module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x484D54333235533642465238432D48392020
  Memory module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 2 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80AD, 0x484D54333235533642465238432D48392020
  Airport: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0xE9), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.81.20)
  Bluetooth: Version 4.0.9f33 10885, 2 service, 11 gear, 1 ports series entrants
  Network service: Wi - Fi, AirPort, en0
  Serial ATA Device: APPLE SM128C, 121,33 GB SSD
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  USB Device: Hub BRCM20702, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0 x 4500, 0xfa110000 / 5
  USB device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x821f, 0xfa113000 / 8
  USB device: Apple keyboard / Trackpad, apple_vendor_id, 0x024c, 0xfa120000 / 4
  USB device: FaceTime camera (integrated), apple_vendor_id, 0x850a, 0xfa200000 / 2
  USB device: hub_device, 0 x 0424 (SMSC), 0 x 2513, 0xfd100000 / 2
  USB device: Internal card reader memory, apple_vendor_id, 0 x 8404, 0xfd110000 / 3

  I had a very similar problem after updating to 10.8.2. What worked for me was starting up in recovery of OS X and under my boot repair disk volume. There are a number of scheduled file system errors. After the reboot, VMWare works again and the system has been stable for the last half hour or so.

  ~ Kate

• First pro cs5 hangs shortly after I opened the project

  Hi guys I have a macpro 1.1 dual core intel xeon, 2.66 ghz 7 GB ram graphics card NVIDIA Geforce 7300, I was about to export my project after that I'm done editing and some audio normalizing, now I can't do a single click anywhere b/s, it crashes and speens forever, I just need to export this thing nothing more. Help, please.

  Did this project, or all your projects?

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• After the restart of mac OS x lion, the scanner hp wireless officejet pro 8600 does not appear.

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  Kind regards.

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