NEITHER USB-6211 signal to noise

While using the analog inputs of the device USB-6211 (Labview 8.5 / Win 7) signal become noisier. By surprise, I got a signal perfect after you have disconnected and reconnected the USB card to the system. This behavior is reproducible for the cards (n = 4) that we use in our laboratory. Is this a known issue with the 6211 card and if so is there a method to reset the map using labview?

Thank you!

Christian

Christian,

I'm glad that you have solved your problem.  Manuals for most of the DAQ cards NOR recommend resistance of two entries to HAVE to AI GND to ensure that a path suitable for polarization currents exist when it is used in differential mode.

Lynn

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