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• An other 'Wifi without data plan"blackBerry smartphones Question - Rogers Canada

  Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and blackberries in general... Please bear with me.

  I am a student. Currently, I have a voice plan base on a LG Xenon with Rogers in the Canada. It includes minutes and unlimited texting. Enough for me.

  I am looking to buy a Blackberry Curve 3 G/9300 off someone. I just want to throw my SIM in there so I can use my normal plan with the phone. My understanding is that I can phone Rogers and tell them to block all data, if I get no charge on my Bill. Fine. However, I also understand that the 9300 is a wi - fi phone.

  Let's say that I get the 9300, contact Rogers and tell them to block all data on my plan.
  Can I still use my browser in a Wi - Fi hotspot? How should I do? (I know that I read somewhere that you need to configure to be about to access and not talkspot... If someone could help me with this that would be great).

  Also, I read that, so that I am still able to use a wi - fi connection, I need to have data 'on' in the phone. If the data is 'on' in the phone, but I've blocked data with Rogers, can I still use a wi - fi connection? This would prevent the costs of data on my Bill?

  In addition, I understand that I will not be able to receive multimedia messages without a data plan. Once again, if I'm in a wi - fi hotspot... Can I receive these messages from photos?

  I'm sure it's a question very well known and well hated to you all and I'm really sorry to ask, but I just need some clarification. I don't want to be stuck with a big Bill with I ever intend on paying data charges. If someone could help me with this, I would really appreciate it.

  Thank you very much!

  Stefanie

  stefspeaks wrote:

  Hey guys, I'm new to this forum and blackberries in general... Please bear with me.

  I am a student. Currently, I have a voice plan base on a LG Xenon with Rogers in the Canada. It includes minutes and unlimited texting. Enough for me.

  I am looking to buy a Blackberry Curve 3 G/9300 off someone. I just want to throw my SIM in there so I can use my normal plan with the phone. My understanding is that I can phone Rogers and tell them to block all data, if I get no charge on my Bill. Fine. However, I also understand that the 9300 is a wi - fi phone.

  Let's say that I get the 9300, contact Rogers and tell them to block all data on my plan.
  Can I still use my browser in a Wi - Fi hotspot? How should I do? (I know that I read somewhere that you have to configure it to be on the verge of access and not talkspot... If someone could help me with this that would be great.) Simply choose hot browser OEPM.

  KB16463 - how to change the default browser on a BlackBerry smartphone

   

  Also, I read that, so that I am still able to use a wi - fi connection, I need to have data 'on' in the phone. If the data is 'on' in the phone, but I've blocked data with Rogers, can I still use a wi - fi connection? This would prevent the costs of data on my Bill? Rogers could see your phone and charge you for a plan anyway. AT & T to do this, if you add in a smart phone with out telling them.

  In addition, I understand that I will not be able to receive multimedia messages without a data plan. Once again, if I'm in a wi - fi hotspot... Can I receive these messages from photos? No only simple navigation cannot be made and Pandora can be used in mode Wi - Fi.

  I'm sure it's a question very well known and well hated to you all and I'm really sorry to ask, but I just need some clarification. I don't want to be stuck with a big Bill with I ever intend on paying data charges. If someone could help me with this, I would really appreciate it.

  Thank you very much!

  Stefanie

• Using Palm Pre Plus on Verizon without data plan?

  Hello people,

  I'm trying to find out if it is possible to use a Palm Pre Plus on Verizon without data plan.

  Right now I have six years old phone clamshell and an iPod touch in my pocket, and I'm looking to consolidate. In addition, locked position of Apple don't gives me the warm shudder blur. WebOS from Palm running on the emulator gives me the warm fuzzies.

  Research on the issue with Google, I saw other people ask the question at the time was the Sprint Pre only. Apparently the Sprint did not yet allow activation of the phone without a data plan. In addition, the question of whether the palm profile account can be installed over wifi there.

  I also met photos showing that WebOS 1.2 would have a toggle to disable the use of the map data.

  So people, you guys what do you think? Is it possible that this is possible? Thank you!

  I suggest you look at www.precentral.net work is around like this. It is outside my area of support, but I'm sure you can find what you need there message board.

• How to do an http Basic by wifi connection just without data plan?

  Ok. Here's the situation: I have developed an application that makes a connection http Basic (connector.open (url)). It woks fine on Simulator course since it uses the mds Simulator. I'm targeting os 5 and above. Now I started to test on the actual device (curve 9300). The real problem is how can I go out with just a default connection. I mean a generic that doesn't care what type of transport, the phone has and uses only the default. As you know has 9300 WiFi. So hopefully I should be able to connect using my wifi at home. On the phone, I can establish connection wifi fine. The phone's browser do not allow through well. He complains: (error! wifi detected...) We are not able to authenticate you as you are not currently a Rogers... Please turn off your wifi connection, and launch your browser to try again). Well, if it means that I'm not on Rogers, it is not correct, as my base phone package is with Rogers, the SIM set in the phone. I tried his suggestion and of course, it does not work!

  What encourages me that it should work in principle, but I have two phone applications (Opera mini and google map) who are able to go online and make the connection.

  I tried to use a combination of parameters attached to the url, as follows:

  1. just by default without any parameter

  2 - deviceside = true

  3 - deviceside = true; = wifi interface

  I also experimented with different options on options tcp apn:

  1 disabling APN setting

  2-activation parameter APN with internet.com, with comments from user and password

  setting of AFN 3 activation internet.com with wapuser1 and wap for the user name and password.

  To "manage connections", I have the following question similarly checked:

  -Network mobile Rogers...

  Dlink_RezaNetwork - Wi - Fi...

  -BlueTooth feature is disabled

  I wonder out exactly the Mobile network connection? I guess that's my basic phone plan puts online. I will be happy if that's the case for my app by there rather than the wifi connection if that is indeed what Opera mini and google map. But sorry to disappoint you, because even if I disable the first connection (i.e. Mobile network Rogers...) I am still able to use these two apps without problem! It makes me happy because it difinitely says I should be able to go online using only my wifi without data plan!

  On connection icons at the top of the phone to the right, I see the following

  Rogers - dlink.RezaNetwork 3 G (icon of the resistance)

  WiFi

  As you can see, my phone is connected to the wifi in my house.

  Anyway, after all this detail, anyone know if there is a solution to this problem? I mean google map and Opera Mini are able to go online without problem.

  In full respect, please don't refer me to read this or that doc I did those before you come and ask questions. But even if there is a doc that you think really go to address above concerns more precisely I'll gladly read

  I use eclipse for development and just well on Simulator.

  This is the result I get when I run the app through the eclipse on the device:

  (1) for the case when only a Wifi connection is enabled on the device connector.open (url) is called with no additional parameters, I get the error: net.rim.device.internal.io.criticalioexception: required radio isn't avtive.

  (2) for the case with wifi interface parameter defined as follows:

  String connStr = _theUrl + "; interface = wifi. "
  s = (connStr) Connector.open (StreamConnection);
  HttpConnection httpConn s = (HttpConnection);
  InputStream input = s.openInputStream ();

  There is no error reported, even though I capture all the exceptions of open(). But the stream returned is always empty!

  Thanks again.

  Just an update:

  The problem took over the redirect. It was a subject, I admit, I was quite familiar with. So, once read on responses from http status, the solution was easy. Also is it possible to simply use the wifi connection for http connections in the code. The build in the browser is another story and it depends on how the connection preferences are managed internally by the os and carrier I suppose, but lance in the code browser works very well, with just wifi traffic.

• BlackBerry Smartphones new owner without data Plan Questions

  This is my first post here, yesterday I received my new BB Curve 8900 from T-Mobile. I spent some time playing with the phone yesterday and of course I have a few questions.

  I chose to do not to get the data plan from T-Mobile for two reasons. One, I don't have many friends with BB if I wouldn't get many people to BBM. Second, I don't have much of a need for e-mail and internet while I travel. For me, the cost of the data plan doesn't make sense.

  That being said, it is possible to access his mail without the data plan (via wifi)? I know that I can't do 'BB Push' and is not a problem, but on my old phone (Nokia E71) I could just set the phone with my email accounts and access it using the WiFi at school or at home. I was able to get the BB browser to access my home wi - fi so I could go to the Web sites, but no luck with the e-mail. I guess I could use the email by logging in on the site of my school or AOL/GMail.com, but seems very not. Is it possible to do this, or perhaps there is an app that I could use to receive email via Wi - Fi?

  I read a lot of posts on here talking about how BB is "paralyzed" without the data plan, but honestly I don't know if a few hundred extra dollars a year is justifiable.

  Thank you!

  Read these links:

  http://www.BlackBerryFAQ.com/index.php/What_do_I_need_a_Data_Plan_for%3F

  http://www.BlackBerryFAQ.com/index.php/How_to_use_BlackBerry_on_Generic_Data_Plan

  Good luck.

• BlackBerry smartphones does pine bb without data plan? No polls bbm, just the msg of the real axis

  I heard that pine bb uses the server of berry to send msg's is faster and more secure. but I had also heard that u don't need to have a data plan, u could still send/recieve pin msg but I tried turned off my data services, but it did not work. so I was just wondering how actually the PIN works.

  I know that bbm does not work via wifi, u gotta hv data plan.

  and if pin msg need data plan work, then what's the point of hving bbm? It just doesn't do the same thing?

  Thank you very much!!!

  PIN to pin is on wheels network, so you need a blackberry data plan more coverage network

• Travel - iMessage without data Plan?

  I'm on a long trip and having some problems with my iDevices and missing my laptop... but anyway...   I had a local with a minutes and SMS plan Sim Card, but the data is too expensive so I gave.

  I wish I could iMessage (send and receive) while WiFi, like many friends use iMessage.  I would also like to SMS while not on WiFi because I have not a data plan and SMS is the only way I can communicate (cheap).

  Is this possible?  I met problems with messages from people that I sent SMS as their response goes into my account to iMessage.

  Also, I tried to disable iMessage just mysteriously turn during the night, for some reason any.  Why we do this?  Is it because I'm on iMessage on my iPad?  iReally have no idea.

  Any help clarifying just how I can make communication work with my iDevices would be appreciated.  I don't want to have to buy a burner not expensive to connect Android phone.

  Thank you!!

  iMessage will certainly work over wifi just fine, no matter where.  iMessage only requires an Internet connection, but doesn't care if it's wifi data or cell - so no cellular data but wifi is fine.

  SMS texts however, by definition, require a cellular telephone and the service.  They do not use a wifi or cellular data channel.  Specifically, they are nailed to a small unused portion of cell vocal range.  The only way to send SMS texts through wifi would be to use a middle-tier application or a web service, or to use the e-mail and send to e-mail recipients specific carrier SMS gateway.

• Synchronization of calendar blackBerry Smartphones without data plan

  Is it possible to synchronize a curve (8300) blackberry and a calendar outlook without the data package? I called 611 and they said I had to have the data package to synchronize my calendar? I was able to do it with the razor without a data packet or a bunch of text. There may be a 3rd party software out there that anyone knows of.

  I have the package text family and a lot of e-mail.

  Using Outlook 2003

  Desktop Manager 4.6 installed Version

  OS v4.5.0.81

  I'd appreciate any help. Thank you.

  Message edited by paulrdv on 02/19/2009 18:51
  Message edited by paulrdv on 02/19/2009 18:55
  Message edited by paulrdv on 02/19/2009 18:59

  Really all people I know have given blackberry plan, but I think nobody needs internet access to synchronize the device with the pc with a data cable.

  If you need anything just display it.

• BlackBerry Smartphones pop3 e-mail set up without BES, BIS, or data plan

  I just bought an unlocked storm2 free and clear - no contract (upgraded from curve without data plan). I have continuous wi - fi, as my internet company offers me unlimited wi - fi access wherever I go in the USA, so my plan is to access my mail via a wi - fi connection.

  Pop3 e-mail is established as possible without data plan, BIS or BES? Is there a 3rd party email application available for blackberry as well as for the pc where you can set up software left 3rd (ms outlook, ms express, etc.) for your email.

  Now the only way I can verify that my email address is in you connecting to the internet via wi - fi and going to my Internet service provider's web site. It's a chore, but as I have to go through several steps before I can actually check my email.

  Thank you. I just looked at gmail and I think it is the best solution right now for email via wi - fi. In fact, he let me do a pop3 e-mail, set up (or imap in option), so I'm good. I check emails fast.

  Another option, I looked in must simply send my emails from MS Outlook to one of these email service based on the web (yahoo, hotmail, gmail, etc), but ultimately, gmail is the best option because of its pop3 / imap capabilities.

• Work bbm blackBerry Smartphones doe wifi without a data plan service active

  DOE bbm work over wifi without a data plan service activated

  Without data plan, no BBM service will work (other then Voice SMS n).

• BlackBerry smartphones must have data plan?

  Why is Verizon requires the data but not Cingular plan not?  I would like to than the blackberry for features to have my outlook on my phone calendar.  I realize without wireless sync I have to use a cable on a daily basis to update.  I'm fine with, I don't however need recover emails from work on my phone all day while I'm sitting at my desk.  I know people with Cingular that have blackberrys without data plan and people with Verizon, which projected data automatically added to their bill when they bought the blackberry.  Verizon told me it's a question of RIM Blackberry, not a matter of Verizon. Why Blackberry have different policies with these two carriers?

  PDA/Smartphones and BlackBerry have a full web browser, are able to email and send and receive data. When these resources are used, the costs are incurred. The best way to control those costs is with a PDA nationally or Blackberrry Email Plan featuring unlimited internet and email. Blackberry devices must have a data plan that we have an agreement with their Builder.

  It's what Verizon told me today.  Thanks for your help though!  Now I have to decide whether to suck it up and get the unwanted data plan or move from Cingular...

• Smartphones blackBerry WiFi email no data Plan

  Hello

  I'm new here, so thanks for any help. Large community.

  I read already a few posts, but impossible to find a solution.

  I want to check my emails gmail through my Bold 9700. Currently, I don't want to sign up for a data plan. I want to use my Wifi connection in the office or at home in order to get my emails. I'm not pushing need function but I don't want to go through the Web page and login. I want to just press a button and receive my emails on request.

  Is it possible to get my emails? My friend has an iphone and he can choose between receiving manual email with push with data plan or wifi.

  Thanks for any help.

  Hello and welcome to the Forums of Support BlackBerry.com.

  bibi80 wrote:

  I want to just press a button and receive my emails on request.

  Is it possible to get my emails? My friend has an iphone and he can choose between receiving manual email with push with data plan or wifi.

  No, not with a Data Plan. You can use the WiFi Hotspot browser to check your Gmail on the browser, but you can not just rely on a 'button' and receive on request. It would be 'pull' email and BlackBerry don't do that.

• BlackBerry Smartphones Verizon without data?

  I have a Curve 8310 and a Bold 9650.  I use very little ot my package data and would like to block data through Verizon and just pay for phone service.  I like both phones, but can't justify the additional cost.  I blocked data on phones of my children (two PARENTS and a phone data LG loan).  Verizon told me that they "can't" block data for these phones.  Is this true?  Why?  These phones are unusable without data?  I can't get updates to the computer?  Please enlighten me.  Thank you

  Hello and welcome to the community!

  BBs without data plans are, IMHO, near useless, and not useful to have. There are just too many services that they depend on a data plan that is appropriate for the feature. But, having said that, there is nothing on the BB himself who said: he cannot work as just a phone without a data plan. However, each company has its own policies and procedures... it is quite possible that VZW will not allow a BB on their network without a correct data... plan and being their network, they have every right to have such a policy.

  Good luck!

• Access to Internet of blackBerry Smartphones without a Verizon data plan

  Does anyone know if using the Blackberry curve in a Wi - Fi hotspot, you can access the internet without a Verizon data plan?

  Yes, it's 8330.  I don't have a data plan but was not sure if it is possible to connect to a wifi hotspot and surf the internet free of charge

• BlackBerry Smartphones download App World Apps without a data plan

  Hello

  I have a Curve 8320 thru ATT, and I was wondering if there is a way to download apps from the App World without having a data plan fee? It seems a shame that there are some useful applications that do not require the internet or a web browser to work and I would be able to download them. I know that the FAQ in the support section said her need but I was hoping that there was another way. I appreciate anyones help with this. Thank you.

  Well, there is a solution available probably in many cases. For example, AppWorld is nothing more than a large Center commercial... is not the manufacturer of the finished product. So, we could guess that search the apps you want and go directly to the application developer, bypassing AppWorld and carrier entirely. This might work... but I guess I should not formally recommend such an approach... so don't say no matter who!