Question about MSD + upgrade and migration applications

Hi all

I am running:

TMS 13.2

TMSPE 1.0

The two co reside on a Windows 2003 server, pointint in an external box of SQL.

We also organize TCX 2.3 on our Exchange.

Now that our server guys have * finally * installed the service pack required on the Exchange, we are ready to migrate to TMSXE but also to upgrade the TMS and TMSPE.

So we want ot go to:

TMS 14.2.1

TMSPE 1.1

TMSXE 3.1

In addition to migrate a Windows server 2008R2 TMS + TMSPE.

I know the different individual guides to upgrade as well as the dependencies between TMS and TMSPE/TMSXE versions.  I'm hoping to do the upgrade and migration all in one and am hoping to get some tips on the best order to do everything.

My first question - decomission the 13.2/TMSPE server 1.1 TMS, that I can install TMS 14.2.1 and TMSPE 1.1 on the Windows Server 2008, they point to the relevant databases and allow upgrading from there? Or do I need install the new versions TMS/TMSPE on the old server, first of all, upgrade the databases and then migrate?

Second question - before all this, I run the TMSXE migration tool to extract the data 2.3 TCX, uninstall TCX of Exchange, TMS upgrades and then install TMSXE 3.0/3.1 at the end?

As all this is running on the virtual machine I'll instant just in case.  Advice on the issues listed above, or general advice about these upgrades would be appreciated

Hi Nick, IMHO, I suggest you first migrate your 2.3 TCX to TMSXE 3.0.2 by this TMSXE 3.0 installation guide, and then pass the TMS and PE later.

Yes, VM snapshot backup option before any upgrade is fine.

BR, Mahesh Adithiyha

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