Questions about the upgrade from 4.1 to 5.1

I posted the following to the thread in the forum of Vsphere upgrade, and in five days I got ZERO responses. Perhaps more here and even here is the wrong place to post things, or maybe I'm not questions easily answer. I'll post it here too, since it mainly Virtual Center, I think. Maybe someone can help me or tell me what is the problem with my announcement that allows to go unanswered. Here we go:

I'm about to upgrade my little (1 4 host ESX and Virtual Center) environment vSphere 4.1 and 5.1.  My database to the virtual Center lives on a separate SQL server 2008R2 server. My virtual Center Server is virtual, if that matters. I have upgraded my licenses and read the documentation, to try to formulate a plan that escapes enough causing any downtime for my virtual machines.

I am designing a series of steps that are all pretty low, and such that each step does not harm anything, whereas if I have problems, I can take my time to solve. Then, when this step is stable, I can continue to the next step. I want to tell you what I have in mind, ask a question here and there and hope you can report errors that I make and answer my questions. The big picture is:

1 Virtual Center update and give him a few days to show me any problem before doing anything else.

2. upgrade to a host ESX 4.1 5.1 ESXi. Convince me things are okay, before you do more.

3. put to level the other three 4.1 ESX hosts. Make sure that everything is fine.

4 create new LUNS, formatted with the new VMFS, move my VM to them and remove the old one.

If there is nothing wrong with this basic plan, please let me know.

More details and questions:

Question: The docs say my Virtual Center Server, under the SSO, the inventory service and the virtual Center Server, will need TEN GIGABYTES of RAM.  Is this true? It seems insane to me.

Question: Can I install on my Virtual Server 4.1 single signon Center without DANGER?  In other words, its installation will prevent Server 4.1 virtual work center? I hope I can, because it is a new feature that I have trouble with. I don't want to get into a situation where my old virtual server Center does not work, and I can't get the new work.

Question: The VI 4.1 client can talk to Virtual Center 5.1? The VI Client 5.1 can talk to Virtual Center 4.1? I hope that the answer to one of the people is 'yes '.

Step 1: Create a backup of my virtual Center VM (with vRanger connection, if this is important) and a backup of my SQL database.

Step 2: Install single Signon. Here is where I hope that this does not stop 4.1 virtual work center.

Step 3: Upgrade the inventory Service and Virtual Center to 5.1

Step 4: Install VI Client 5.1 on the VM virtual Center and on my desk from which I usually manage my environment.

Step 5: Wait I'm comfortable that everything is fine. It is perhaps a day or two (or more).

Question: How can I spend my hosts for maximum security? I'd rather put a DVD in the drive and do it from the console, unless this is not a good way.

Question: Before I update a host, should I remove the fiber channel cables, so he can't see my VMFS LUNS? I think I read that somewhere, and it sounds like a good thing to do, even if I do not have.

Step 6: Upgrade a host ESX 4.1 5.1 ESXi. Move a couple of virtual machines essential to it and he give a day or two to settle.

Step 7: Upgrade the other three ESX host.

Step 8: Wait until I'm really, really comfortable with things.

Step 9: Create a new LUN VMFS5, migrate my VMs to them over time and remove the old one.

I would greatly appreciate all advice and attention that you may have.

Question: The docs say my Virtual Center Server, under the SSO, the inventory service and the virtual Center Server, will need TEN GIGABYTES of RAM.  Is this true? It seems insane to me.

If your environment is small you can run all these in one and ofcouse if you execute all these in a server you need more RAM... There is no limit.

Question: Can I install on my Virtual Server 4.1 single signon Center without DANGER?  In other words, its installation will prevent Server 4.1 virtual work center? I hope I can, because it is a new feature that I have trouble with. I don't want to get into a situation where my old virtual server Center does not work, and I can't get the new work.

normally if you think only in terms of scalability, it is good to have separate these things... He is sure no questions evey thing won't work if you install it on the same server also.

Question: The VI 4.1 client can talk to Virtual Center 5.1? The VI Client 5.1 can talk to Virtual Center 4.1? I hope that the answer to one of the people is 'yes '.

The VI 4.1 client can talk to Virtual Center 5.1? No, but talk about Client 5.1 Virtual Center 4.1

Step 1: Create a backup of my virtual Center VM (with vRanger connection, if this is important) and a backup of my SQL database.

Step 2: Install single Signon. Here is where I hope that this does not stop 4.1 virtual work center.

Step 3: Upgrade the inventory Service and Virtual Center to 5.1

Step 4: Install VI Client 5.1 on the VM virtual Center and on my desk from which I usually manage my environment.

Step 5: Wait I'm comfortable that everything is fine. It is perhaps a day or two (or more).

these steps are ok

Question: How can I spend my hosts for maximum security? I'd rather put a DVD in the drive and do it from the console, unless this is not a good way.

BLI, or DRAC suites method what ever you... very well.

Question: Before I update a host, should I remove the fiber channel cables, so he can't see my VMFS LUNS? I think I read that somewhere, and it sounds like a good thing to do, even if I do not have.

Installing esxi will not hurt of thing... to the old VMFS... It will ask to keep or to format the old vMFS... BUT I prefer to remove the cables... BECAUSE we are humans...

Step 6: Upgrade a host ESX 4.1 5.1 ESXi. Move a couple of virtual machines essential to it and he give a day or two to settle.

no need... . If the hardware is on the HCL, I mean the firmware/driver etc... for the esx is on the HCL, then no problem...

Step 7: Upgrade the other three ESX host.

Step 8: Wait until I'm really, really comfortable with things.

Step 9: Create a new LUN VMFS5, migrate my VMs to them over time and remove the old one.

assign the new LUN and create VMFS and migrate... It'S her!

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