Start/task bar freezes, but can still work on all open windows? : S

Hello and thank you if you took the time to read this.

I'm on Vista x 64

I'll start by when I turn on my pc.  (and an example of what is happening)

Turn on > enter password > windows start > if I leave my computer for a few moments without start all programs, the start bar will freeze after about 5 minutes.

I am then unable to open all programs, if I try Ctrl + Alt + Delete I try to start the Task Manager, but it's too frozen and I can't terminate any process.

The only thing I can do is Ctrl + Alt + Del again and shut down my computer.

(is where it gets more weird)

If I start my pc > fill in password > open some programs quickly before the start bar freezes (because he ends up by themselves) then the start bar freezes after a short period (1 min) (for example) Firefox/Chrome open, Photoshop, E-mail, etc. open, I am able to use all these programs, unless I have close or minimize the window for them , making it impossible to get again (even if they are still running as a process)

If I try to Alt + Tab the real Vista Alt + animation tab that opens in the middle of the screen sits there frozen too impossible to close or change the program.

To add to the strangeness >

I then press Ctrl + Alt + Delete and click CLOSE in the lower right, when I do this the ' the following documents are still open you want to save before windows shuts etc etc etc...'   So I click Cancel instead of "Force Shut down" and everything will come back to working perfectly!

I'm confused and have no idea of what I should...

I'm guessing a repair would be useful, but there may be something im missing

Thank you for reading if you have any help much appreciated!

Hello

What antivirus/antispyware/security products do you have on the machine? Be one you ALREADY had on this
machine, including those you have uninstalled (they leave leftovers behind which can cause strange problems).

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Follow these steps:

Start - type this in the search box-> find COMMAND at the top and RIGHT CLICK – RUN AS ADMIN

Enter this at the command prompt - sfc/scannow

How to analyze the log file entries that the Microsoft Windows Resource Checker (SFC.exe) program
generates in Windows Vista cbs.log
http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/928228

Also run CheckDisk, so we cannot exclude as much as possible of the corruption.
How to run the check disk at startup in Vista
http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/67612-check-disk-Chkdsk.html

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After the foregoing:

How to troubleshoot a problem by performing a clean boot in Windows Vista
http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/929135
How to troubleshoot performance issues in Windows Vista
http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/950685

Optimize the performance of Microsoft Windows Vista
http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/959062
To see everything that is in charge of startup - wait a few minutes without doing anything - then right click on the task - bar
The task manager - take a look at stored by - Services - process - it is a quick reference (if you have
a small box in the lower-left - show for all users can check only).

How to check and change Vista startup programs
http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/79612-startup-programs-enable-disable.html

A quick check to see that load method 2 is - using MSCONFIG and then display a list of the people here.
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Tools that should help you:

Process Explorer - free - find out what are the files, registry keys and other objects processes have opened, the dll
they loaded and much more. This exceptionally effective utility will show you even owned by each process.
http://TechNet.Microsoft.com/en-us/Sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

Autoruns - free - see what programs are configured to startup automatically when your system boots and you
opening of session. Autoruns also shows you the full list of registry and file locations where applications can configure auto-
start the settings.
http://TechNet.Microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx
Process Monitor - Free - monitor the system files, registry, process, thread and DLL real-time activity.
http://TechNet.Microsoft.com/en-us/Sysinternals/bb896645.aspx

There are many excellent free tools from Sysinternals
http://TechNet.Microsoft.com/en-us/Sysinternals/default.aspx

WhatsInStartUP - free - this utility displays the list of all applications that are loaded automatically when Windows
starts. For each request, the following information is displayed: Startup Type (registry/Startup folder).
The command - line String, product name, file Version, company name, location in the registry or the file system,
and much more. It allows you to easily disable or remove unwanted programs that runs in your Windows startup.
http://www.NirSoft.NET/utils/what_run_in_startup.html

There are many excellent free tools to NirSoft
http://www.NirSoft.NET/utils/index.html

Window Watcher - free - do you know what is running on your computer? Maybe not. The window Watcher says it all, reporting of any window created by all running programs, if the window is visible or not.
http://www.KarenWare.com/PowerTools/ptwinwatch.asp

Many excellent free tools and an excellent newsletter at Karenware
http://www.KarenWare.com/

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Vista and Windows 7 updated drivers love then here's how update the most important.

This is my generic how updates of appropriate driver:

This utility, it is easy see which versions are loaded:

-Free - DriverView utility displays the list of all device drivers currently loaded on your system. For
each driver in the list, additional useful information is displayed: load address of the driver, description,.
version, product name, company that created the driver and more.
http://www.NirSoft.NET/utils/DriverView.html

For drivers, visit manufacturer of emergency system and of the manufacturer of the device that are the most common.
Control Panel - Device Manager - Display Adapter - note the brand and complete model of your
video card - double - tab of the driver - write version information. Now click on UPdate Driver (this
cannot do anything as MS is far behind the certification of drivers) - then do a right click - Uninstall - REBOOT
This will refresh the driver stack.

Repeat this for network - card (NIC), Wifi network, sound, mouse, and keyboard if 3rd party with their
own the software and drivers and all other main drivers that you have.

Now go to the site of the manufacturer of system (Dell, HP, Toshiba as examples) (restoration) and then of the manufacturer of the device
(Realtek, Intel, Nvidia, ATI, for example) and get their latest versions. (Look for the BIOS, Chipset and software)
updates on the site of the manufacturer of the system here.)

Download - SAVE - go to where you put them - right click - RUN AD ADMIN - REBOOT after each installation.

Always check in the Device Manager - tab drivers version you install actually shows up. This
because some restore drivers before the most recent is installed (particularly that audio drivers) so install a
pilot - reboot - check that it is installed and repeat if necessary.

Repeat to the manufacturers - BTW on device at the DO NOT RUN THEIR SCANNER - manually check by model.

Look at the sites of the manufacturer for drivers - and the manufacturer of the device manually.
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/driverssupport/HT/driverdlmfgr.htm

How to install a device driver in Vista Device Manager
http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/193584-Device-Manager-install-driver.html

If you update the drivers manually, then it's a good idea to disable the facilities of driver in the Windows updates,
This leaves ONE of Windows updates, but it will not install the drivers who are generally older and cause
questions. If updates offers a new driver and then hide it (right click on it) and then go look for new ones
manually if you wish.

How to disable automatic driver Installation in Windows Vista - drivers
http://www.AddictiveTips.com/Windows-Tips/how-to-disable-automatic-driver-installation-in-Windows-Vista/
http://TechNet.Microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730606 (WS.10) .aspx

Hope these helps.

Rob - bicycle - Mark Twain said it is good.

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