UserAgents - impact technically in Fx browser (and using with fluid App)


I don't know what the impact of a "user agent". I don't know if I chose the iPhone user agent on my Macbook, it means I can do things that Web site owners/developers have tried to limit to the iPhone for example read the full version of magazines for free. So I guess that a user agent tells the owner/designer of website 'our device' somehow we are somehow.

But a user agent does nothing else on the technical plan for the browser?
for example

> no User-Agent controls whether a user script requiring xx can use xx (where xx = I can run this successfully using GreaseMonkey userscript in Fx, but it fails to run approx. fluid userscripts a in-app, no plug-in is required.

> no User-Agent controls how low I can zoom in. Current zoom level is limited to 50% with the user agent below. More useless.

I wonder what I started to play with the app purchased, fluid.
Fluid converts a SSB (Single Site Browser) - aka a lot of apps that are now pure web browser but really an app), in a quasi-app, so it can sit on your dock, use OSX notifications, use split window panels / trays etc...) Liquid is no where near as powerful as Fx, but there is no integration with the OSX notifications which at the moment I can't find an add-on that allows this via the webkit. Several modules now use notifications for OSX, so I know it must be possible (for example to download helper).

The latest version of the fluid is 1.8.3 I bought recently. By default, I opened user agent and I see this:

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_10_3) AppleWebKit/0600.5.17 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/1955 FluidApp Safari/0600.5.17

No idea what this user-agent is really telling me. I'm on OSX 10.10.3, yosemite I use the last FX (38 recently updated this week) and I don't use Safari.

Thanks for your help.

helpresearch said

But a user agent does nothing else on the technical plan for the browser?
for example

> no User-Agent controls whether a user script requiring xx can use xx (where xx = I can run this successfully using GreaseMonkey userscript in Fx, but it fails to run approx. fluid userscripts a in-app, no plug-in is required.

I can't answer on the liquid, but Firefox itself can not be fooled by what you specify as your user agent. For example, it asks what OS it is running on the operating system, and he knows that it's Firefox.

I think that most of the userscripts are designed with limited space in mind, such as Greasemonkey and Scriptish on Firefox (and maybe Waterfox and Pale Moon), Tampermonkey on Chrome and maybe one or two other maximally. Specific points in the user agent string probably does not matter.

> no User-Agent controls how low I can zoom in. Current zoom level is limited to 50% with the user agent below. More useless.

Again, I think not. But you might have success change this setting in Firefox:

(1) in a new tab, type or paste Subject: config in the address bar and press enter/return. Click on the button promising to be careful.

(2) in the search above the list box, type or paste the zoom and make a pause so that the list is filtered

(3) double-click the preference zoom.minPercent and try to enter a lower minimum (for example, 25 for 25%).

The latest version of the fluid is 1.8.3 I bought recently. By default, I opened user agent and I see this:

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_10_3) AppleWebKit/0600.5.17 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/1955 FluidApp Safari/0600.5.17

No idea what this user-agent is really telling me. I'm on OSX 10.10.3, yosemite I use the last FX (38 recently updated this week) and I don't use Safari.

My guess is that liquid wants website who do not recognize FluidApp treat it like Safari or any other browser Webkit (Safari and Chrome are popular browsers based on Webkit).

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