Archive logs always smaller in size then redo logs

I'm on 10.2.0.3.

My recovery logs (3 groups of 2 members each) is 50 M, while my archive logs is mostly between 30 M and 40 M & never reach 50. Journal Apprently switches are too often produce.
You guys have an idea, what could cause one - and how to fix it?

TIA.

GROUP # THREAD # SEQUENCE # BYTES MEMBERS OF ARC STATUS FIRST_CHANGE # FIRST_TIME
---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- --- ---------------- ------------- ------------------
YES 1 1 25679 52428800 2 INACTIVE 5176999019 5 MARCH 09
2 1 25678 52428800 2 YES INACTIVE 5176976984 5 MARCH 09
3 1 25680 52428800 2 NO CURRENT 5177009713 5 MARCH 09

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-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 41139200 5 March 10:47 arch1_25648_669756456.arc
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-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 36099072 5 March 10:47 arch1_25650_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 43916288 5 March 10:47 arch1_25651_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 43497472 5 March 10:47 arch1_25652_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 36912128 5 March 10:47 arch1_25653_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35848192 5 March 10:53 arch1_25654_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 36176896 5 March 10:56 arch1_25655_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 36613120 arch1_25656_669756456.arc March 5 from 11:00
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 36086784 5 March 11:10 arch1_25657_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35859456 5 March 11:15 arch1_25658_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 39876608 5 March 11:16 arch1_25659_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 37593088 5 March 11:18 arch1_25660_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 37158912 5 March 11:24 arch1_25661_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 38323200 5 March 11:25 arch1_25662_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 36100096 5 March 11:25 arch1_25663_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35860480 5 March 11:35 arch1_25664_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35848192 5 March 11:48 arch1_25665_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 36048896 5 March 11:56 arch1_25666_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35852288 5 March 12:05 arch1_25667_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35990528 5 March 12:07 arch1_25668_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 36060160 5 March 12:12 arch1_25669_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35888128 5 March 12:16 arch1_25670_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 36460544 5 March 12:18 arch1_25671_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35857408 5 March 12:21 arch1_25672_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 37536768 5 March 12:31 arch1_25673_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 50753536 5 March 12:32 arch1_25674_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35850240 5 March 12:38 arch1_25675_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35854336 5 March 12:53 arch1_25676_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35875840 5 March 12:56 arch1_25677_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35873792 5 March 13:07 arch1_25678_669756456.arc
-rw - r - 1 oracle dba 35852288 5 March 13:19 arch1_25679_669756456.arc

Hi Grex,

Refer to metalink Doc ID: 388627.1.

HTH
Anand

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    RMAN> restore database;
    Starting restore at 20-JAN-16
    Starting implicit crosscheck backup at 20-JAN-16
    allocated channel: ORA_DISK_1
    channel ORA_DISK_1: SID=20 device type=DISK
    allocated channel: ORA_DISK_2
    channel ORA_DISK_2: SID=18 device type=DISK
    Crosschecked 29 objects
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    Starting implicit crosscheck copy at 20-JAN-16
    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    using channel ORA_DISK_2
    Finished implicit crosscheck copy at 20-JAN-16

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    cataloging files...
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    using channel ORA_DISK_1
    using channel ORA_DISK_2

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    channel ORA_DISK_1: restoring datafile 00004 to /u01/app/oracle/oradata/orcl/users01.dbf
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    ===================
    BS Key  Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
    ------- ---------- ----------- ------------ ---------------
    82      2.16M      DISK        00:00:00     20-JAN-16     
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            Piece Name: /u01/backup/DB_FULL_ORCL_20160120_s91_p1

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      Thrd Seq     Low SCN    Low Time  Next SCN   Next Time
      ---- ------- ---------- --------- ---------- ---------
    1    1       1154833    20-JAN-16 1177422    20-JAN-16

    BS Key  Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
    ------- ---------- ----------- ------------ ---------------
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            BP Key: 83   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: YES  Tag: ARCL_BKP_FULL
            Piece Name: /u01/backup/DB_FULL_ORCL_20160120_s92_p1

      List of Archived Logs in backup set 83
      Thrd Seq     Low SCN    Low Time  Next SCN   Next Time
      ---- ------- ---------- --------- ---------- ---------
    1    1       1162729    20-JAN-16 1188784    20-JAN-16

    BS Key  Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
    ------- ---------- ----------- ------------ ---------------
    84      10.68M     DISK        00:00:01     20-JAN-16     
            BP Key: 84   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: YES  Tag: ARCL_BKP_FULL
            Piece Name: /u01/backup/DB_FULL_ORCL_20160120_s93_p1

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      Thrd Seq     Low SCN    Low Time  Next SCN   Next Time
      ---- ------- ---------- --------- ---------- ---------
      1    2       1177422    20-JAN-16 1201833    20-JAN-16

    BS Key  Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
    ------- ---------- ----------- ------------ ---------------
    88      1.81M      DISK        00:00:01     20-JAN-16     
            BP Key: 88   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: YES  Tag: ARCL_BKP_INC
            Piece Name: /u01/backup/DB_INC_ORCL_20160120_s97_p1

      List of Archived Logs in backup set 88
      Thrd Seq     Low SCN    Low Time  Next SCN   Next Time
      ---- ------- ---------- --------- ---------- ---------
      1    3       1201833    20-JAN-16 1204844    20-JAN-16
      1    4       1204844    20-JAN-16 1204893    20-JAN-16
      1    5       1204893    20-JAN-16 1204958    20-JAN-16

    BS Key  Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
    ------- ---------- ----------- ------------ ---------------
    92      143.00K    DISK        00:00:00     20-JAN-16     
            BP Key: 92   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: YES  Tag: ARCL_BKP_INC
            Piece Name: /u01/backup/DB_INC_ORCL_20160120_s101_p1

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      Thrd Seq     Low SCN    Low Time  Next SCN   Next Time
      ---- ------- ---------- --------- ---------- ---------
      1    6       1204958    20-JAN-16 1205034    20-JAN-16
      1    7       1205034    20-JAN-16 1205253    20-JAN-16

    BS Key  Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
    ------- ---------- ----------- ------------ ---------------
    96      80.00K     DISK        00:00:00     20-JAN-16     
            BP Key: 96   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: YES  Tag: ARCL_BKP_INC
            Piece Name: /u01/backup/DB_INC_ORCL_20160120_s105_p1

      List of Archived Logs in backup set 96
      Thrd Seq     Low SCN    Low Time  Next SCN   Next Time
      ---- ------- ---------- --------- ---------- ---------
      1    8       1205253    20-JAN-16 1205354    20-JAN-16
      1    9       1205354    20-JAN-16 1205433    20-JAN-16

    BS Key  Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
    ------- ---------- ----------- ------------ ---------------
    100     18.00K     DISK        00:00:00     20-JAN-16     
            BP Key: 100   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: YES  Tag: ARCL_BKP_INC
            Piece Name: /u01/backup/DB_INC_ORCL_20160120_s109_p1

      List of Archived Logs in backup set 100
      Thrd Seq     Low SCN    Low Time  Next SCN   Next Time
      ---- ------- ---------- --------- ---------- ---------
      1    10      1205433    20-JAN-16 1205519    20-JAN-16
      1    11      1205519    20-JAN-16 1205559    20-JAN-16

    BS Key  Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
    ------- ---------- ----------- ------------ ---------------
    104     128.00K    DISK        00:00:00     20-JAN-16     
            BP Key: 104   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: YES  Tag: ARCL_BKP_INC
            Piece Name: /u01/backup/DB_INC_ORCL_20160120_s113_p1

      List of Archived Logs in backup set 104
      Thrd Seq     Low SCN    Low Time  Next SCN   Next Time
      ---- ------- ---------- --------- ---------- ---------
      1    12      1205559    20-JAN-16 1205624    20-JAN-16
      1    13      1205624    20-JAN-16 1205739    20-JAN-16

    BS Key  Size       Device Type Elapsed Time Completion Time
    ------- ---------- ----------- ------------ ---------------
    108     8.00K      DISK        00:00:00     20-JAN-16     
            BP Key: 108   Status: AVAILABLE  Compressed: YES  Tag: ARCL_BKP_INC
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      List of Archived Logs in backup set 108
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    If i ignore it and open the database, just my table in full backup come back but rows was not restored. I'm sure the problem is my archive log backup but i don't know how to solve it. Plz help me.

    Sorry for a long post.

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    AA

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