Storage VMFS Partition Performance
I am trying to determine if I'll get best performance of 6-300 Gb 15 K FC disks in a table 6 FC - 300 GB 15 K in a table of RAID5 or RAID10?
I don't have much time to really sit and Experiment (would like to but time = $$).
This is the table that will store between 5-9 WIN2k3 VM.
I like the idea of RAID 10, which allows more than 1 drive fail (as long as it isn't the same mirror) and still survive with times of rapid reconstruction.
This question has been turned off before, but not with the amount of readers, I want to say
Any help is appreciated!
If you have a load of joint task force (most do) then RAID10 will give good performance than RAID5. RAID5 has faster sequential readings as RAID10, but RAID10 is normally the one who gives you the best performance in a VMware environment where multiple virtual machines are access to the same storage.
Lars
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