ASM disks - expand a based San LUN
Hi allI'm learning a bit about the ASM and best practices to follow properly set up/use it at its best.
Using an external FC SAN storage, if I create a logical volume with a LUN number and expose this LUN to my server ASM, I can see it properly and add it to an ASM disk group.
So far so good. After that, if I develop this LUN on the external storage (using the tools), I'm not able to see the new space of the DSO. Looks like Oracle somehow "partitioned" originally the LUN when I first added it to the instance of the DSO, and after the "marking" it, even if I increase the Volume, the "expansion" is not seen.
Is there a way to tell ASM as ther IS actually more space available? If I "fdisk-l", I see the amount of space on the device. But the 'blocks' are always the old value...
I know that the creation of another logic unit number and adding to the disk group, there is no problem, but I would rather be able to expand an existing LUN on my external storage to create new LUNS on it all the time...
Thanks for any help.
Have you tried:
SQL > alter diskgroup DATA42 resize all the 4 powers of rebalancing.
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ASM disk - based SAN LUN expansion
Hi all
I'm learning a bit about the ASM and best practices to follow properly set up/use it at its best.
Using an external FC SAN storage, if I create a logical volume with a LUN number and expose this LUN to my server ASM, I can see it properly and add it to an ASM disk group.
So far so good. After that, if I develop this LUN on the external storage (using the tools), I'm not able to see the new space of the DSO. Looks like Oracle somehow "partitioned" originally the LUN when I first added it to the instance of the DSO, and after the "marking" it, even if I increase the Volume, the "expansion" is not seen.
Is there a way to tell ASM as ther IS actually more space available? If I "fdisk-l", I see the amount of space on the device. But the 'blocks' are always the old value...
I know that the creation of another logic unit number and adding to the disk group, there is no problem, but I would rather be able to expand an existing LUN on my external storage to create new LUNS on it all the time... Please help me understand if what I have in mind is correct or not on a best practices perspective.
Thanks for any help.Yes you're right. Add the 20 GB lun, you can with 0 downtime and then remove the old 10GB of the diskgroup lun (assuming that you don't change the 10 GB to 20 GB :)) If you hold rebalance low power, Re-balance I/O will be even not worth the performance system IO too muchl.) But the problem here is that hesitate to use only a single lun 20 GB as the entire disk to ASM diskgroup. If you increase the number of LUNs (disks asm) even by creating separate volumes on the same physical disks you will increase the number of logical I/O paths which contributes to the homogeneity of distrubution of I/O.
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ASM backup with snapshots of SAN strategies
Hello people,
in one of our facilities, we have a database server (11.2) that has only the binaries and config (not the data files) and all the ASM disks residing on the San. The SAN has daily snapshots, so data files are saved. My question is, how should I proceed if the database server fails and needs to be reinstalled? My question is how can I tell the grid that we already have a diskgroup with disks on the SAN. I found md_backup and md_restore, but I don't know how and when do md_restore.
I searched for a long time, but I'm quite confused with the approaches, please note that RMAN is not an option in this environment.
Thanks in advance
AlexHello
O.k., that changes things. You should have mentioned that in the beginning of your post, this stop the database you before you make the snapshot and you don't not to aid in archivelog mode.
I would also suggest to disassemble start it before making snapshots.
However, when was the last time you tried the archivelog mode? 11g has greatly increased performance.Note: in this case the snapshot is only a point of view. In case of error, you will lose data. (The last hours of your last backup).
Now regarding your questions:
-Online you will install a new system with the GI and the database software. You will need a new diskgroup (e.g. INFRA) to the new OCR and voting disks (they should not be included in other starts as DATA and FRA, so no don't need the old INFRA snapshot).
=> Then to present the DATABASE LUN and FRA diskgroup on the new server. ASM will be able to start it as soon as all the disks are available (and have the authorization of right). No need md_backup or restore. Backup MD_BACKUP the content of ASM headers, but since you have always drives this meta information is still intact.
-Online record new data and services with the grid Infrastructure (srvctl add the database / srvctl add service etc.). Make sure you just point to the correct spfile (you can find for example with ASMCMD).
=> Database of departure...It's your snapshot was working. Only have another forum thread, where a diskgroup has been corrupted due to the snapshot (fortunately only FRA).
And just as a reminder: a snapshot is not a backup. Depending on how the storage is the snapshot, you should take precautions to move to separate disks and check the TI (is it usable).
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the ASM disks can be in a different Partition for a database
Hi all
I have 2 datababase on the server. I save the data file on MDMDISK1 for the MDM and DWHDISK1 database to the DWH database.
I can add/dev/sdd5, / dev/sdd6, / dev/sdd7 to DWHDG1 disk group to give more space to the DWH database.
Table of Partition disk configuration
Group name size GB ASM Disk Disk drive
/ dev/SDS (MON) 107
/ dev/sdd1 7 CRSDISK1
/ dev/sdd2 7 CRSDISK2
/ dev/SDS3 7 CRSDISK3
/ dev/SDS4 8
/ dev/sdd5 24
/ dev/SDD6 24
/ dev/sdd7 24
/ dev/sde (MON) 107
/ dev/SDE1 24 MDMDISK1 + MDMDG1
/ dev/SDE2 24 MDMDISK2
/ dev/SDE3 24 MDMDISK3
/ dev/sde4 24 MDMDISK4
/ dev/sdf (MON) 107
/ dev/SDF1 24 DWHDISK1 + DWHDG1
/ dev/sdf2 24 DWHDISK2
/ dev/SDF3 24 DWHDISK3
/ dev/sdf4 24 DWHDISK4user5846399 wrote:
but I wanted insurance with people with experience as you go this drive on differnet LUN will not impede performance.
A LUN is a logical unit - it may be a single physical disk. It may consists of 20 physical drives. If the LUN itself does not determine the performance. Performance is determined by the parts in movement under it.
Multiple LUNS to the same diskgroup using or the volume of file system is a common practice. If this would be a problem (performance or otherwise) depends on the cloth under the LUN.
For example, a logic unit number could be RAID5 and another logic unit number can be RAID0 + 1. Mixture of different RAID levels is not really a good idea.
A LUN can be a storage on a San and accessible via the fiber channel. Another logic unit number could be an iScsi device, accessed through intellectual property. Mix very different storage architecture and storage protocols are not a good idea.
A LUN can be RAID0, through fiber double channels connected to a switch, for the storage of 1 storage server. Another logic unit number can also be RAID0 and accessible through the same fiber channels and switch, but since the storage server 2. Whereby the RAID levels are the same and the storage Protocol and infrastructure the same - and that will not only make a compatible mix, but can actually increases the redundancy if you use these as disk mirrors ASM (which means that ASM can lose the server storage 1 or 2 and still works).
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2 san LUNS have been disassembled automatically need to pull up the same
Dear Experts,
last night all of a sudden we found two san LUNS are not mounted on one of the vcb server, but we are able to see the same on a disk management window, need your help how to mount these LUNS without losing any data. How to download buttons pressure or attachment...
Need urgent help
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Mr. VMware
Hello
What operating system is installed on the computer?
Contact VMware support for assistance.
http://www.VMware.com/support/
Hope this information helps.
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Hello
When I compare the size of the operating system disks, each is 2.6 to.
But when I look at ASM, they are 2 TB each.
I'm reasonably sure, not 100%, I've created with external redundancy, so I thought the asm disks would be the same size as the operating system.
fdisk -l data /dev/sdb1 2627.4 GB data2 /dev/sdg1 2627.4 GB Name REDUNDA MOUNT_S TOTAL_MB FREE_MB OS_MB ------------- ------- ---------- ---------- ---------- - DATA UNKNOWN CACHED 2097144 842200 2097150 DATA UNKNOWN CACHED 2097144 842392 2097150
Can someone explain this to me?
Thank you
Randy
Version of grid Infrastructure? ASM has limit GI version< 11.2="" on="" maximum="" size="" of="" luns="" (2tb)="" that="" can="" be="" used="" for="" asm="">
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Difference between ADVM Volume and filesystem ACFS ASM disk group
Q1. What is the difference between an ASM disk group and a Volume of ADVM?
In my opinion, an ASM disk group is actually a logical volume to the database (including the FRA files) files.
11 GR 2 appears to have introduced the notions of volumes ADVM and filesystems ACFS.
11 GR 2 ASM disk group can contain:
- ASM disks
- Volumes ADVM
- Filesystems ACFS
Q2. ADVM volumes appear to be dynamic volumes.
However is it therefore not effectively overlaying a logical volume (the volume ADVM) under ASM disk group (conceptually a logical volume as well)?
Even worse, if you left the ASM disk group redundancy in hardware RAID / SAN level (as recommended Oracle), you actually have 3 layers of logical disk? (ASM on top of ADVM on top of RAID/SAN)?
Q3. If it is 2 layers of logical disk (i.e. on top of ADVM ASM), what makes this better than 2 layers using a 3rd party volume manager (for example the DSO at the top of the 3rd party LVM) - something Oracle encourages against?
Q4. ACFS file systems, seem to be file systems clustered for not including ORACLE_HOMEs database files, application exe etc (but NOT GRID_HOME, OS root, OCR or voting records)
Can you create / modify filesystems ACFS using ASM.
The diagram of topology of oracle for ASM in ASM 11 GR 2 administration guide, says ACF in ASM. I'm not sure about that if ACFS belongs to ASM or ASM is located at the top of the ACF?
Q5. Connected to the 4th quarter. There seems to be a number of different ways, ACFS file systems can be created? Which of this is the valid methods?
- Thanks to ASM?
- through native OS file system creation?
- through OEM?
- through acfsutil?
my head explodes
Any help and clarification appreciated
Jim
Q1 - volume ADVM is a type of special file created at the DG of the DSO. Once created, it creates a block device on the BONE itself which can be used as any other block device. http://docs.Oracle.com/CD/E16655_01/server.121/e17612/asmfilesystem.htm#OSTMG30000
Q2 - the asm disk group is a group of disks, not really a logical volume. It combines the attributes of both when it is used for purposes of database as the database and some other applications know how to talk about Protocol 'ASM '. However, you won't find all the versatile applications that can do. In addition, some clients prefer to deal directly with files and devices of volume systems which ADVM is forced to make. In your thinking, you have 3 layers of logical disk, but each of them provides features and different attributes. This is not a bad thing, though, as each has a slightly different purpose - os file system\device, specific database and storage-centric.
Q3 - ADVM is specifically developed to extend the features of the DSO for use by General applications of BONE. It includes the performance of database features and is tuned to work well in this situation. Because it is developed in-house, it benefits from the design of ASM model. In addition, rather than having to communicate with several vendors for support, your support is limited to calling Oracle, a single window.
Q4 - you can create and modify filesystems ACFS by using command line tools and the ASMCA. Creation and modification of logical volumes coming through SQL (ASM), asmcmd and ASMCA. EM can also be used for the two elements. ACFS is located at the top of the ADVM, which is a file in an ASM disk group. ACFS is aware of the characteristics of the ASM\ADVM volumes and tunes it's IO make best use of these features.
Q5 - several ways:
1) connect to ASM with SQL, use 'alter diskgroup add volume' as Mihael points out. This creates an ADVM volume. Then, put in shape volume using the "mkfs" (* nix) or acfsformat (windows).
(2) use ASMCA - a GUI to create volume and a file system. Probably the easiest if your head is explosion.
(3) use "asmcmd" to create a volume and 'mkfs' to put in shape file ACFS system.
Here is information on the ASMCA, with examples:
http://docs.Oracle.com/CD/E16655_01/server.121/e17612/asmca_acfs.htm#OSTMG94348
Information about the command line tools, with examples:
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need help to set up a SAN LUN...
Dear team,
Today, all of a sudden, we have identified two san LUNS are not mounted on one of the vcb server, but we are able to see the same on a disk management, here is the screenshot window, need your help how to make these existing LUNS without losing any data.
LUNS that are not initialized these r the LUN I want to mount as drive Q and O, and here's event logs
need urgent help
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Mr. Vmware
First, look at the status of logic on the side of SAN unit number.
The windows machine
1. make sure that you can see WWPN in the HBA bios.
2. starting at OS level check LUN status using above commands so Multipathing s/w is installed, Else look for hard drives in the Device Manager (it must be something lik DISK IBM)
3 simple reboot may go up Mon
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I'm building a Microsoft Cluster with two VM on the physical host computers separate servers. Based on what I have read so far using a RDM SAN LUN is supported when the cluster nodes are on separate host servers. VMFS formatted SAN LUNS are not supported when the nodes are on separate host servers.
If I have I need of several shared volumes, the only commune RDM LUN can cause several volumes in windows or each shared volume is associated with a RDM LUN?
ESXi 5.0
Windows Server Standard 2008 R2 x 64-cluster nodes
Welcome to the community,
usually, you would create a volume on a LUN (essentially identical with the physical installation of MSCS). Having multiple volumes on a single LUN would make not much sense anyway, because MSCS can not move LUN between nodes (i.e. only a single cluster node can be the owner/Defender).
André
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Conversion of a server that has SAN LUNS attached
Hello
Need help.
I need a file server, which currently has 4 mapped to the EVA SAN drives, each drive is almost 1.6 TB of P2V.
I also have the CD VMware converter acronis.
How can I get it work? as I'm not able to migrate the attached SAN LUN due to space issues.
Any help appreciated...
How can I get it work? as I'm not able to migrate the attached SAN LUN due to space issues.
You don't need to convert the SAN disks, ignore those. NPIV can be used to attach these LUNS later once it is converted.
Use VM Converter, convert JUST the boot disk for the file server.
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SAN LUNS vs. VMFS Block Size block size
Hi all
I searched a bit and you read some documents on VMFS block sizes and alignment. However, I'm still a little confused. I think I get the concept of aligning vmfs partitions and how the block size affects max vmdk/size of the file on a partition. When creating new virtual disks and LUNS on my SAN, however, I can choose the sizes of different block there, as well.
Choose size of block even when you create a SAN LUNS as VMFS partition that will reside on this subject? There is also 'the band height' and I wonder how it might affect things. The default value is 64 k, which I was using.
Thank you very much
Take a look at: disk partition alignment
Block is not to same size, cause VMFS use big block (not available at the level of storage).
André
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Migration of data to assist based SAN store
Hey guys,.
We have two esx servers. ESX1 and ESX2.
ESX1 is autonomous, while ESX2 is with a SAN (connected to the HBA fibre channel)
I am now loading on ESX1 vcenter, once this is done, I want to move the VM ESX1 the ESX2 server machine, BUT this time it should reside in the SAN logical unit number.
I know that I can't move without interruption because they have not San already, so I'll have to cold migrate virtual machine to esx2 esx1 but is it the same as usage of vconverter? Also if I migrate can I ask vcenter to load the machine in the logical unit number of the san and not on the esx2 data store?
Please help, I really need to get the VMs on the San and not having to build them from scratch once again.
Thank you
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We will all live a virtual life...
OK
The fact that you are directly connected to the San, and you can see the LUN in the section maps storage equates not once he is able to do something with this LUN.
You must go to the STORAGE (should not be confused with storage adapters) and add it to your server AGAIN.
When asked if the physical storage disk/LUN or connected to the network, you select disk physics/LUN. You will be presented a list of LUN storage adapters can see (including this LUN you're talking 200 GB)... Select it by clicking on it. Then, you will be asked to select the size of the block... I would recommend selecting 1 Mb. Then, you will be asked to give it a name (something like Datastore1_From_SAN works well) and then the server create a VMFS partition on it. Virtual machines LIVE in a VMFS partition - without one on this SAN LUNS, you will not be able to migrate your VM to it
It will then appear in the tab for data warehouses (according to my pic) on the summary page of your server and appears in the page of DATA storages as well
Hope this helps
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recommendation of the number of ASM disks on 11 GR 2
Hi all
I'm deployment RAC Oracle 11 g 2 + ASM AIX6.1 and an EMC SAN.
I am planing to create three groups of disks DATA, FRA, and OCR, I use external redundancy.
I have the questions:
How many records you create for each group of records? is there any number of disks recommended for the DATA and FRA?
FRA: This is for the flash recovery area disk group so all the backups will be stored here. should have the size of the DATA multiplied by 2?
OCR: Will contain OCR and voting disks, is it enough not to have only a single drive since I'm on external redundancy? What is the recommendation?
Kind regardsHello
What is the right way to create my ASM disks? If I follow these steps, I should find the/dev / disks in my ASM_DISKS list? and then, of these discs, I can create my groups of disks?
Yes... It is simpler than Linux (when you use MPIO or ASMLIB)... On AIX you just set the permission on/dev/rhdisk and asm_diskstring/dev/rhdis *, you need to create partition (LV) on these physical disks.
These permissions are constantly, only returning to the default root: System in case of device to remove/add.
You must use rhdisk hdisk.
The special file rhdisk provides first IO functions to access and control to physical disk for the physical disk device drivers. Access IO gross is provided through the/dev/rhdisk0, / dev/rhdisk1,..., character special files.
Direct access to physical disks through block special files should be avoided. This access may affect the performance and also cause problems of consistency of the data between the data and the data in the buffer cache pages system block I/O. Special files/dev/hdisk block are reserved for the system in the management of logical volumes, paging devices and file systems.
Important: the physics of the disks MUST NOT have PVID. {: identifier of the thread = 2312281}
# Added: edited by: Levi Pereira January 12, 2012 16:07
Also, I recommend:
DOC said: Oracle recommends that the allocation unit (to THE) size for a group of disks attached to 4 megabytes (MB).
Definition of SIZE is a difference when you don't need broadband to e/s. IE: used for Diskgroup that will store the data filesSee the example:
# lspv DISK PVID VG_NAME ============================================================ hdisk12 none None hdisk13 none None hdisk14 none None ## Change permission of /dev/rhdisk* to GRID OS owner and ASMADMIN OS group and "chmod 660" ## If you are not using job role separation installation the default is "oracle: dba" # ls -ltr /dev/rh* crw-rw---- 1 oracle asmadmin 17, 10 Jan 5 17:01 /dev/rhdisk12 crw-rw---- 1 oracle asmadmin 17, 11 Jan 12 15:00 /dev/rhdisk13 crw-rw---- 1 oracle asmadmin 17, 12 Jan 12 15:16 /dev/rhdisk14 Disks to discover [disks=raw,asm,all] raw = disks not used by ASM asm = disks used by ASM all = All disks $ /u01/app/grid/grid_has/kfod disks=raw asm_diskstring='/dev/rhdisk*' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disk Size Path User Group ================================================================================ 1: 204800 Mb /dev/rhdisk12 oracle asmadmin 2: 204800 Mb /dev/rhdisk13 oracle asmadmin 3: 204800 Mb /dev/rhdisk14 oracle asmadmin -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORACLE_SID ORACLE_HOME ================================================================================ +ASM /u01/app/grid/grid_has SQL> set linesize 100 col path for a30 col header_status for a20 select path,header_status from v$asm_disk where header_status <> 'MEMBER'; PATH HEADER_STATUS ------------------------------ -------------------- /dev/rhdisk12 FORMER /dev/rhdisk13 FORMER /dev/rhdisk14 FORMER $ sqlplus / as sysasm SQL> CREATE DISKGROUP DATA NORMAL REDUNDANCY FAILGROUP STG1_CTL1 DISK '/dev/rhdisk12' FAILGROUP STG2_CTL1 DISK '/dev/rhdisk13' FAILGROUP STG1_CTL2 DISK '/dev/rhdisk14' ATTRIBUTE 'compatible.asm' = '11.2.0.0.0'; Diskgroup created. $ asmcmd lsdg DATA Inst_ID State Type Rebal Sector Block AU Total_MB Free_MB Req_mir_free_MB Usable_file_MB Offline_disks Voting_files Name 1 MOUNTED NORMAL N 512 4096 1048576 614400 614238 204800 204719 0 N DATA/ $ asmcmd lsdsk -p -G DATA Group_Num Disk_Num Incarn Mount_Stat Header_Stat Mode_Stat State Path 5 0 782499361 CACHED MEMBER ONLINE NORMAL /dev/rhdisk12 5 1 782499362 CACHED MEMBER ONLINE NORMAL /dev/rhdisk13 5 2 782499363 CACHED MEMBER ONLINE NORMAL /dev/rhdisk14 $ asmcmd lsdsk -k -G DATA Total_MB Free_MB OS_MB Name Failgroup Failgroup_Type Library Label UDID Product Redund Path 204800 204746 204800 DATA_0000 STG1_CTL1 REGULAR System UNKNOWN /dev/rhdisk12 204800 204746 204800 DATA_0001 STG2_CTL1 REGULAR System UNKNOWN /dev/rhdisk13 204800 204746 204800 DATA_0002 STG1_CTL2 REGULAR System UNKNOWN /dev/rhdisk14
Kind regards
Levi PereiraPublished by: Levi Pereira January 12, 2012 15:50
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Windows 2008 R2 64-bit server running Oracle Enterprise Database 11.2.0.2
This server was supposed to be an isolated system, which can be moved to another location...
the person who took leave, and now they want to move...
I started to go into the config and discovered that it didn't load basic disks to ASM data on local hard drives that were bought for her. they were loaded in our SAN storage...
I need to move the disks local ASM of our SAN to hard drives...
NOTE: The space used is small... but more than the local disk space is space on the SAN... If the size of the readers will have to be reduced...
I probably just format and will load another server and export/import data...
But I was currious if there was a way to move a disk partition ASM disks to another...Please check:
Passing a datacenter ASM disks to the other for the other machine -
How card ASM disk path to the physical drive on AIX?
Hello world
I work on a plug-in for Oracle Enterprise Manager 10 g 2 on AIX 5.3 which monitors storage bays and supports databases in addition to the "emrep" database ASM One of the metrics of this plug-in is populated by the result of a korn shell script. Directly, the script runs on the AIX host (connected to the storage array cable CF via HBA ports) and retrieves the mapping for - disk - logical disk - LUN - ASM.
Now, I was able to get the mapping to physical disk - logical disk - LUN, but could not map drive ASM. I googled a lot for no idea, but did not find the answer to this specific problem.
Now, I have the list of physical disks used for the DSO by the command:
LSPV
hdisk0 0001c22ac8d664ca rootvg active
hdisk1 0001c22aa51f496a Oracle active
hdisk2 0001c22ac478263a zero active
hdisk3 0001c22ac472549a Oracle active
hdisk4 0001c22ac4725d6a Oracle active
hdisk5 none None
hdisk6 none None
hdisk7 none None
hdisk8 none None
hdisk9 none None
hdisk10 none None
hdisk11 none None
hdisk12 none None
hdisk13 none None
hdisk14 none None
hdisk15 none None
hdisk16 none None
Hdisk5-16 discs are ASM disks and there are currently of no PVID.
I also have the list of ASM disks by the command:
ls-l/dev | grep oracle
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 6 12 may 00:02 asm_rd10_1a
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 10 Apr 21 07:27 asm_rd10_1b
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 7 May 09 13:53 asm_rd10_1c
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 8 May 09 13:53 asm_rd5_1a
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 4 12 may 00:02 asm_rd5_1b
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 9 APR 21 07:28 asm_rd5_1c
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 12 12 may 00:02 asm_xbb2_rd10_1a
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22: 11 Apr 24 07:34 asm_xbb2_rd10_1b
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 13 May 09 13:53 asm_xbb2_rd10_1c
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 16 12 may 00:02 asm_xbb2_rd5_1a
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 14 Apr 24 07:34 asm_xbb2_rd5_1b
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 15 May 09 13:54 asm_xbb2_rd5_1c
Now, I'm looking for a way to map these two lists with each other and had no luck so far.
Oracle provides this information somewhere in the OEM installation structure or y at - it a command in AIX that could provide a way to map the ASM disks on the physical disks?
Any help on this is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance...
FYI: ASMLib driver is not present on the system.I am not familiar with aix, but I think you can get the major and minor numbers as follows:
ls-l/dev/asm_rd_10_1a
CRW - rw - 1 oracle dba 22, 6 12 may 00:02 asm_rd10_1a
ls-l/dev/hdisk5
CRW - rw - 1 root root 22, 6 12 may 00:02 hdisk5the numbers would be 22 and 6.
That's just a guess, on HP - UX, it's like that, but it will be a little tricky
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