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• Management double color screen?

  So I have a Setup dual monitor running OS 10.7 on a Mac Pro, and the color in bridge CS5.1 on my second screen management is a mess. Two monitors were calibrated individually with a Pantone Huey Pro (not perfect, but generally quite uniform between screens).

  View an image in bridge on the screen of my first, I have no problem. But the same image, on my second screen, appears highly saturated. When I open the image in Photoshop or preview, the color is accurate and is compatible on both screens. The image below illustrates the problem: the colors shown correctly in Photoshop (foreground) and incorrectly in Bridge (in the background). The Creative Suite color in show bridge settings settings as "synchronized" with the "North American universal 2" default. "

  

  I am out of my depth here when it comes to color management. I have something set wrong? Is this a bug related to the Lion? Any help would be appreciated.

  The way I put it in place is this: I have two synchronized windows, one on each of my two displays. In one, I have a content panel, metadata, collections, etc. In the second window I just a Preview Panel, providing a full screen (or almost) an overview of any miniature that I select in the Panel content in the other window.

  Content (assuming that thumbnails so) overview of Panel on a screen and Preview Panel Preview on the other screen are both generated by an application and the bridge. As I said above, I don't think, in fact I'm almost certain that it is impossible for the bridge to withdraw because of double matrices (mathematical formulas) written in each custom display profile which occupy the same video chip to calculate and control the appearance of the hue/saturation in color managed images. Think of the complexity involved. Now Adobe is known to create miracles of workflow with their programming but I doubt they'ld be able to remove with bridge.

  Photoshop can pull this wide having an image on a screen and drag to the other where it makes adjusting on the fly. I saw the rapid change that occurs it making. But I don't think that bridge can do so due to the caching structure. I hope an Adobe employee chimes in correct me.

  Now it fits in your forcing mentioning a display space sRGB during calibration and profiling of each screen. This isn't what happens to make a hardware calibration. I guess you take your target Luminance (120 cd/m2 + /), Gamma (2.2 gamma-usually native) and color temperature (6500 K). It does not matter if you did anyway, but what is the calibrator material is as RGB colour and density range of each screen and write the data to the final profile which allows applications such as Colorsync to show a 3D model range and color managed like Photoshop applications to show the colors as expected.

  Your screen may be close to sRGB but never accurate to him because sRGB is a synthetic (manufactured) color space. Your screen has physical abnormalities that should be measured and written in the profile to display correctly the planned appearance of color that references the CIELAB color space based on human vision. All about color in a color management workflow is based on the mapping color to display properly depending on the size of the range. A computer is a stupid machine and said all using mathematics. Haven't you actually draw a plan to follow.

  The bridge preview pane in search of different can make reference to the other display profile or is stuck with reference to the other and what is happening is the equivalent of assignment among the profiles of the preview display, as you can do to an image in Photoshop. Try it. Take your image and convert it to one of your display profiles and assign the other display profile. Check if you see a slight delay. If main viewing pane of the bridge is stuck showing pixel traced in sRGB (synthetic) then the same assignment of the effect of display profile takes place.

  Or color thumbnails are not managed and the preview pane is and maybe a bit of the foregoing is mixture of things. If you're not confused now imagine you write mathematically miniature previews on one screen and the main preview on the other two, controlled by a single application on top of the caching and manage a database of the big picture?

  Keep the preview pane and the pane content on a screen. Edit your images in Photoshop/ACR/Lightroom on the main display.

  The color settings where you select North American prepress... Web... General use... etc. applies only how images are processed and previewed that do not have an embedded profile. Your jpeg images are integrated with a profile? If yes then this isn't the issue. This applies to the Raw capture because their previews are generated by Adobe Camera Raw default settings.

  Omke, not more than Version Cue? That is good news!

• How to have different color profiles on screens cloned with color management

  Hello

  I have calibrated two monitors (in fact, one is a standard monitor and the other is a projector that is connected to my computer) using the third-party program. I'm so done with ICC profiles two different, one for my monitor and the other for my image to the projector.

  These two are connected to a card double head (Quadro 4000).

  I am able to use my two different color ICC profiles with an extented of office using the color management settings in Win7 without problem. I can't disable them without problem also.

  But I can't do it with a clone view (dual display). Even if I am able to select two different profiles for each of them in windows color management settings. Alone can apply for each of them. In fact, when I'm in an office clone, even when I tried to deactivate the profile of each color, nothing changed. Color management doesn't seem to update more as soon as I'm in a clone desktop mode.

  Anyone know if there is a way to apply TWO different colors on monitors CLONED profiles? In my case, I can not use extended desktop and I really need to apply the calibration profile two different.

  Thank you very much!

  Edith

  Hi Edithosaure,

  It is better suited for the IT Pro TechNet public. Please ask your question in the Forum on TechNet Support. You can follow the link to your question:

  http://social.technet.Microsoft.com/forums/en-us/category/w7itpro/

  I hope it helps. If you have problems in the future, please let us know. We will be happy to help you.

• Color Management Confusion - Canon PRO 1000 printer

  Users of Photoshop CC out there working with PRO-1000 printer from Canon?

  Obviously, I should have a handle on my colors, but despite the download management workflow and by applying the right profiles of icc for the documents, have a calibrated EIZO monitor, the colors are downright bad and inconsistent at best.

  The dilemma:

  In my printer set up, I have a color management options) let the printer manage colors, or b) let Photoshop manage colors.

  The big problem I have with the PS, it is that if I let Photoshop manage colors (what I want), I get a warning that says "Please use Adobe Color Printer Utility If you need to print with no color management.

  

  There are already 2 problems with this:

  1. I DON'T want to print with color management

  2. the utility of Adobe Color printer not only is not manage the colors, it is apparently not yet supported by Photoshop CC, that was told to me through some Adobe support chat. The utility itself seems pretty useless.

  The question becomes HOW am I supposed TO MANAGE COLOR using the CANON PRO 1000 with ADOBE CC?

  With an exhibition that I'm supposed to be set up in less than a week and no Adobe or Canon support site, I passed the point of despair and entry in full-on panic. Someone please help! Thank you.

  In fact, there is no much to experiment. If Canon profiles are good, and there is no reason to think that they are not, there is only one way to do it:

  • The document in a standard color space
  • Photoshop manages color (if ensure that color management turned off the coast in the printer driver, you don't want the color management double)
  • Choose the right profile for your paper in the PS print dialog box
  • Also choose the type of media in the printer driver to set the total amount of ink

  The printer driver is that you get to when you click on 'Properties' in the dialog box print in Photoshop.

  There's a review here, separated what corresponds to your objectives of calibration of monitor the density of white ink and paper max (this is to monitor the white and black points). If you get prints that are too dark, your screen is too bright. Not the other way around.

• For Web use color management

  I'm sorry if this has been posted elsewhere, but I was unable to find it. It's a bit hard to find when I don't know exactly how to explain the problem.

  My problem is that I see too much difference between the images in Photoshop and the same file in web browsers. The problem seems to double. The shadows of images are appearing where blotchy, as it appears in photoshop. This is especially true in the pictures with a lot of digital noise like a digital photograph shot at high ISO. The second problem is that images appear much more contrasting in web browsers than in photoshop. This is particularly noticeable monochrome images of high contrast in photoshop as the web browser pushes the contrast levels in the Kingdom of clipping and burn.

  I'll explain my material and the workflow so that you can get an idea where the problem might be. I shoot a Canon 20 d. I am running Windows 7 64 bit with a Benq 21 '' LED monitor. RAW conversion in Digital Photo Professional (although I have transformed my raw files in Photoshop for troubleshooting reasons and had the same problems). I convert my raw to tiff 8-bit files and open in Photoshop CS5 (also troubleshooted in CS3 with the same results) for the majority of my editing before converting small JPEG for web use where they are displayed in the current version of Firefox.

  The final jpeg always look great in Photoshop, but as soon as I open them in Firefox or one of Windows Photo Viewer they look terrible. I do not understand that Photoshop displays the ICC profile image where that most web browsers don't not/can not. That's why I convert my JPEG files in sRGB (I normally shoot in AdobeRGB) I was under the impression that an application not CM as a web browser would show everything in sRGB as is the internet standard. So what I see in Photoshop while displaying a picture listed for sRGB should be the same as in an environment not CM surely? For reasons of test I tried to process the unidentified images, but the same questions always came.

  Unfortunately my monitor is not shaped as I can't currently afford equipment. Back when I was in uni, we used Spyder, but it's just out of my means. Even though I think most of the people might be inclined to this blame on the lack of monitor profiling, I have my doubts. My problems are rarely found in different colors. I even experimented with changing the gamma settings while having one of the images open in Firefox. No gamma level, no matter how extreme, makes a lot of difference to the blotchyness of my shadow. Not only that, but profiling seems to aim at the synergy between the screen and print. I don't know how it could help bridge the gap between software.

  My wife has the exact same pc than me and even monitor (although hers is LCD and LED mine) and the same problems exist when it displays images. I noticed the images look good on my laptop on Firefox. This makes me wonder if the modern LCD monitors General contrast and brightness levels bring the problems I didn't know I had when editing on a laptop (I had to move countries and that's all I had unfortunately). What worries me is any image on that I have to work hard will always terrible look on the web for someone of another look at one of my images on a modern monitor. Really, I rely on the use of the web to get my content out there. Right now, they are actually more urgent for me to get the prints to the right. If people cannot take advantage of the image on the screen, they will never want to print.

  I hope it was the right place to post such a thing. This is clearly not for the lack of Photoshop that it manages to display more information than the other pieces of software in my images. I just thought that others may have had similar experiences. I'm not professional when it comes to Photoshop or photography, but I have a good few years of experience and education behind me in the topic. It seems I've reached the limit of what I can do here. It actually feels kind of pathetic for something as simple as to a jpeg of an image of high quality for the web allows only to stumble and fall.

  I find myself baffled and confused. I welcome any help on the subject and I thank you all in advance.

  Where do you have a v4 profile in this string?

  Anyway this is much like a monitor profile problem. What are you helping? He is the one that is provided by Benq (which I wouldn't trust for a second), or the default sRGB to Windows? You can find in Control Panel > color management. If this is the swap of profile of Benq for sRGB and working with it until you can afford a calibrator (you can get one for just $90 BTW).

  Normally there will be no difference between Photoshop and Firefox because they are both fully color managed and handled the same way: the document profile is converted on the monitor profile on the fly, and that is what is sent to the screen. But Firefox is known for interpreter sometimes hurt the monitor profile.

  You should also know that if your document profile is the same as your monitor profile (for example, they are the two sRGB), you basically have a managed without color string. So all appear identically with this configuration, Photoshop, Firefox, IE, no matter.

• Color management in Lightroom 3 print Module

  I was never quite happy with the Lightroom print module, but have recently noticed quite marked when printing color inconsistencies.  I use a HP B9180 printer and always use application controls the color (and learned how to set the printer driver to the top outside of Lightroom in the Windows 7 Control Panel to avoid what it back to one of the HPs built in printer setup options).  I also print using QImage Pro that I have set up as an external editor, test images sent to the QImage always print as expected, but the same images printed on Lightrooms 3 have a Magenta cast.  I always assumed that lightroom kept the image in his workspace of ProPhotoRGB internal in the print module and profile specific printer/paper ICC to convert directly from ProPhotoRGB "instructions to specific printer/paper" (QImage is certainly sending the file image in aRGB or ProPhotoRGB gives exactly the same result).  However I was looking at the model of printer and among her file found the following

  printingFileProfile = "sRGB",.

  printingFileResolution = 300,

  printingProfile = "C:\\Windows\\system32\\spool\\drivers\\color\\HP PSPro B9100 - Advanced Photo Glossy.icc"

  printingresolution = 300,

  renderingIntent = "Perception."

  Can I infer from this snippit that when the print module is enabled, a copy of the image is rendered within sRGB, reduced to 300 dpi color and this is the file that is used when printing (important to know even if you select managed by printer color management personnel as the B9180 pilot gives you a choice of aRGB and sRGB as managed by application on the color management tab)?

  Does anyone know what precicely goes here?

  What is the root cause of incompatible colors?

  I'm under that Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit on a PC with a Core 2 Quad Q6700, 8 GB of DDR2 RAM and a NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS graphics card.

  I have the latest drivers for the B9180.

  Can I infer from this snippit that when the print module is enabled, a copy of the image is rendered within sRGB, reduced to 300 dpi color and this is the file that is used when printing (important to know even if you select managed by printer color management personnel as the B9180 pilot gives you a choice of aRGB and sRGB as managed by application on the color management tab)?

  No, the keyword "printingFileProfile" profile which is selected when you switch your output to a jpeg file. The keyword "printingProfile" is the profile that is used to translate the data to your printer. If you select a profile in the context menu, what Lightroom is converted from inner space linear prophoto for the profile of the printer and that sends the printer driver. No staging sRGB is made. If you get an unexpected color, what usually happened is color management double because the pilot has a different profile. He should leave the quiet data, but it is obviously not. The magenta colors are a very typical signature of double. My guess is that the setting "handled by the application" is to have ignored or is stunning when printing. Make sure you check that the definition of when you hit actually impression about me that he often returned to sRGB in Lightroom without discernible reason. He shouldn't do that, but there are a few strange printer driver interaction bugs in Lightroom.

• Color management B8850 is driving me crazy!

  Help, please!

  I use a mac 10.5.6 with the latest HP driver.

  When I try to print using a colorprofile I get very poor results! The color management system can not be disabled!

  First of all. Im trying to print using Photoshop CS3. In the PS print dialog, I select:

  -Color management in Photoshop

  -The color appropriate for my HP paper profile

  In the system settings, however, the option to deselect the color management (under paper/quality) is a party! I don't see this option when photoshop does not handle the colors!

  I post a picture, but I don't seem to be able to add one in this forum.

  Every help and FAQ always indicates that the color management wihtin should I disable the control panel of the printer. But I can't!

  If I use the settings colors are very bad! Please help, this is driving me crazy!

  Message edited by Calcool on 09/01/2009 13:16

  Yes, I found a solution. You must let the re-kalibrate printer out the print heads, putting them back in and restart the printer. HP phone support was very helpful.

• Pavilion 14-n204sf: Radeon 8670 current driver does not allow for color management

  Hi, this is my first post on the forum. The problem, I do face is quite simple: after I've updated 8670 M Radeon driver for my computer in August I immediately found that color management system was not working. Cannot use an ICC profile, impossible to calibrate a monitor (I tried X-Rite and the built-in Windows, both failed tool), any feature dealing with color management had simply disappeared from my machine and was replaced by an error message - aaargh!

  At the time I found that all the problems have disappeared as soon as I rolled back the Radeon driver to the previous (IE. July 2015) pilot and learned how Windows 10 not not trying the upgrade of this driver more. Of course, the problem was caused by a major bug in the new driver, but a simple tunraround should just continue to use the previous driver. So far so good.

  But now things have only become worse. Due to a problem with a software, I tried to find the current driver Radeon, which turned out to be the dreaded August version, with the result the same mess as before. When I tried to roll back this driver again for the July version working, I had the very bad surprise as (1) "Roll back driver" in the control panel is gray now as if there was no previous version, and (2) it is not possible to find the version of June on the website of HP - or elsewhere also.

  So: How/where can I get the driver of 8670 M Radeon dated July 6, 2015, so I can use my computer for my work in photography again? I can't believe that it is not possible.

  And of course, I have a second question: how is it that no new version of the driver has been released since August to set a such obvious flaw? I hope that someone will take the time to solve the problem and deliver a pilot fully working soon.

  Thank you very much in advance for your help.

  HI @jlb21,

  Thank you for your inquiry.

  I understand that when you install the graphics driver updated for Radeon 8670 M in August you have lost your color management system did not work.  Once you cancelled the driver in the device manage everything was good again.

  Because of a software problem, you must reinstall this driver. When you checked the Device Manager there is only the version of the driver available August and you do not have a roll back driver option.

  You can try to uninstall the driver and then search for the driver, try a Windows driver if available to determine if it would help.

  As you have 10 Windows installed I don't know if you still have the recovery partition. If not and you have recovery media, you can try following the steps described in the following document.

  Computers HP - using Recovery Manager to restore the software and drivers (Windows 8)

  If the driver in question was provided with your original operating system and you have no support for recovery, you can get a kit of HP support recovery.    You can ask if they can check if all drivers have been updated on the recovery kit that I don't know.  I don't know if they can verify this information, but it does not hurt to ask?

  Please contact HP to Contact HP Supportassistance.

  Please let me know the results.

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• Satellite A210-171 - how to check the color management

  I work with the software digital painter on my laptop (satellite A210-171)
  Because my colors are not the same when printed (with the help of a printer of Dell A.I.O.) told me to check my Colour Management on laptop.

  I go to control panel and click on color management
  Then I see a generic PnP monitor - when I click on the drop down menu next to it I found that my printer is listed.

  What should I do next?

  As stated in my other ads, I know only a teeny weeny bit about the computer so please if someone is kind enough to answer, step by step instructions gratefully appreciate

  Sue

  > If there is someone who can fix this error please do, so I hope that I will get an answer to the question
  Why you n t he correct yourself? You can change the own message!
  But it looks like someone already did

  I guess that your laptop uses the ATI graphics card. So, the ATI Catalyst Control Center should be available.
  Usually, you can set some parameters of color in ATI Catalyst Control Center-> color

• Re: What update display driver affect color management settings?

  Hi all!

  I received a message on the new update of the display driver and I have a few doubts about the installation. When I installed an update of the BIOS driver, all the parameters of the BIOS returns the value default ones, but in this case, it wasn't a big deal to put once again according to my needs. But I spent, probably, half a day, adjusting the color using color management, and I really want to keep the settings I've done. So, please, tell me, if updating the nVidia driver assigns these parameters and if there is no way to save them? Thank you very much!

  Hello

  If you install a graphics card driver, your bet will be set by default. To be honest, I see no reason to update the drivers if the system works well. I always use the same drivers that I downloaded before and do not update again. On the backup of the settings, I don't know how to do it. Anyway, I've never thought about this.

  You are welcome, if have any other questions.

  Post edited by: Jeka-HE

• Cannot access the options of color management for HP 6700 Mac OS 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion)

  Hello.

  I have the HP Officejet 6700 Premium e-all-in-one, and I can't find any way to access the color management options.

  The printer is attached (Wi - Fi) to my iMac Mac OS 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion).

  I want to correct a magenta cast for the photos I printed.  I had the problem of magenta-cast in Lightroom and use Preview to print the photos, so now I want to work with color profiles in Photoshop Elements.

  Photoshop Elements is recommended I have 'disable color management in the printer Preferences dialog box.

  However, I am not able to find for the 6700 color management preferences in settings under Mountain Lion:

  Not sub (Apple) > System Preferences > print & Scan.

  Not sub (HP utility) > Open Embedded Web Server.

  Not sub (HP utility) > the printer settings.

  Non-print preview dialog.

  I can't find any clear directions in the online help (HP or elsewhere) that I've read so far.

  Any suggestions would be most appreciated.

  Thank you!

  Michael

  Hello

  Thanks for the reply and the screen shot.

  The first thing I want to do you is to reset the printing system.
  OS X Mavericks: reset the printing system

  Then add the printer, however when it by adding not just click on the name of printers, click Add printer or a scanner. Make sure that the 'use' is set to the printer and not Airprint.
  If it is displayed as Airprint, you will be missing feautres compared to the actualy printers driver.

  After that, I'll provide you know several documents that you may find useful to perform this task.
  Documents from HP:
  Color management for the HP inkjet printing products new generation
  Advanced color management overview

  Apple documents:
  Mac OS X 10.6: edit images using ColorSync Utility
  Mac OS X v10.6: about ColorSync

  Document from CNET:
  How to use ColorSync Utility to assign color profiles in OS X

  I know some say 10.6, but they give you a reference and the idea, trying to do what you are.
  Please let me know if that helps.

• in Lightroom color management

  I use Lightroom and mediocre results of my new iP8720 printer.  How can I turn off color management in the printer?

  KISS

• Color management

  I posted a similar message with the title of the color Balance, but because my question is basically the color management - I repost with a new title and an additive - the problem I will quote below IS with the Photosmart B8550 PHOTO printer.  As I just posted, I tried my C6280 Photosmart printing and the colors are much closer to what they should be.

  The problem I have is there is too much red in the color balance in my impressions.  The colors in the pictures I see on the screen are NOT the same as the colors in the photos that print.  I tried every setting in the printer (perceptual, saturation, absolute colormatrix, colormatrix relative) rendering - all are bad.  I printed several different photos and the colors are disabled on all.

  I've seen posts on the color balance in the Officejet 8500 but the answers do not apply and the Photosmart B8550 PHOTO printer.  There is no funciton copy so I can't use this solution to increase yellow.  I'm using Photoshop CS4.  I put it in place so that Photoshop manages colors, but the output of the printer remains too red.  I checked my ink level and they are all very well (just over 60%.

  And, as I said earlier - the colors with the same photos printed on the PS C6280 are much more real they are printing the PS B8550.

  Hi Cbdcs,

  A question for you, never have you calibrated your screen? Both printers were offshore, but one was "closer" to be what you saw that you mention.

  When you print, make sure you select 'Application manage colors', both in printing from Photoshop, don't forget to select like color Manager.

• Impossible to apply an ICC profile to display. can not understand instructions for color management

  I just upgraded again own computer with Windows7 from my old XP machine.  I have icc profiles for my two monitors.  Under XP, I had nothing wrong with 'apply' or 'associate' or 'use' of these profiles by using the MS color, and both monitors would change appearance when starting a State fully calibrated and profiled.

  Now, in Win7, I followed fairly confusing instructions, go to the color management / devices / select one of the screens / click "use my settings for this device" / add a profile box "Profiles associated with this device" using the add"" button.  Then I click on the correct profile in this box and click "Set as default profile".  Nothing happens.  I can put any weird profile as a default, and nothing happens.

  I don't even know instructions during the effective application of this profile is supposed to happen, but guess it is when you click on "set as default profile."

  "It may be a clue that the color management dialog box fails to identify my poster other than in the form ' generic PnP monitor - NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT" while the control panel NVIDIA and Windows 'Screen Resolution' box both manage to identify the poster correctly and use their own name i, e, Eizo L768 and Samsung SyncMaster.

  In addition, 'Identify display' in the dialogue box CM works exactly the opposite of how it works in the other two boxes that is Samsung (left) is number 1 in color Mgmt, but number 2 in the control panel Nvidia and Windows 'Screen Resolution' box.

  I'm stuck until I can address this issue, so would be very grateful for any help.

  Thank you

  Thanks the geek for your help.  No thank you somehow to anyone from Microsoft.  None of this reflects well on Microsoft; No to the current Windows 7 CM interface design, not the fact that after years of complaints and messing around with color management that they could have finally gotten the mechanics in place, but still cannot explain, or make it possible for mortals to use it, and certainly not the fact that they create these monsters and offer no support to any well-founded None.  Not a response to a MS person here, not a good answer to similar questions scattered throughout the Web, no after sales support during any period after the purchase of a new operating system of MS qualified (it's supposed to be provided by the OEM, but of course, none of them knows this kind of thing, how can you keep waiting if Microsoft don't?).  So - NO support.

  I can't believe I fell for the hype and purchased a new Windows System.  I swear to you that this is my LAST purchase of windows.  Microsoft, despite the amazing improvements in Win7, still do not understand.

  Here's the answer to my problem, thanks to some photographers and no thanks to Microsoft...

  1 ASSOCIATE YOUR PROFILES WITH DISPLAY AND SET as a DEFAULT value
  
  To apply an existing ICC profile (ICM file created by any process of calibration), follow these steps.

  Control panel / display / change display settings / advanced settings / color management / color (new!)  / Devices / select one of your displays * 1 / click "use my settings for this device" * 2 / if necessary adds profile applicable to the area of "Profiles associated with this device" using the "Add" button (if your profile is not already listed but is available somewhere on the network or the computer) / click on the correct profile in this box and click "set as default profile."

  * 1 the dialog boxes CM do not label your displays just like the other dialog boxes, they seem to lose the manufacturer and the model number information that is available elsewhere, so your display ABC model nn appears as display: 1. Generic PnP monitor .  Also note that at least on my system, display "1" was in fact display '2' in the other dialogs settings display and vice versa.

  * 2 that could think by selecting 'Use my settings for this device' would mean the Windows using your settings for this device (screen), but apparently it isn't.  That means... Well, I don't know what that means.  Perhaps it means that if you do select not her, even the next step (see below) will not help you.

  Good work so far - unnecessarily complex - and tortuous, but has a certain logic.  Unfortunately it is not nothing at all, until you train the secret key.  Well it seems that the above should do what you want, you need to do something that is quite obvious and not mentioned at all in the General discussion of the help and apparently not known by the 67 people who have read my question.  In fact, it is listed in the section to help Ms... at the bottom of the "Description of the color management settings" and after a largely incomprehensible mass of things that appear not to be relevant, there is a link that is not listed in the content at the top and almost impossible to see... To enable or disable calibration loading Windows

  2 ACTIVATE THE CALIBRATION BY WINDOWS LOADING

  Here's the little hidden from the help file...

  1. To enable or disable calibration loading of Windows, you must be logged in with an account of a user with administrator privileges.

  2. Click to open color management.

  3. Click the Advanced tab, and then click change system default values.

  4. Click on the Advanced tab in the color - default system, dialog management, and do one of the following:

     • To allow Windows to load and display calibrations, check the box use Windows display calibration.

     • To prevent Windows from loading screen calibration, clear use Windows display calibration check box.

  5. Click Close in the color management - default settings dialog box of the system.

  6. Click Close in the color management dialog box.

  Not only it obscure, it confounds even by the fact that you are in the same dialog twice, but the second time is the reference color - default system management instead of the color management as it was the first two times.   But only on the second time is the required box enabled to allow you to check or do a system wide setting.  Easy to miss.

  Experts of either MS doesn't know about it and can not find in the help files or the other, or that they couldn't be bothered to answer my question.  In any case a) I hope this helps someone else, and b) I hope that Mrs. lift their game to support and actually meets the future to frustrated and powerless people that I was.  Thanks Microsoft for losing a day of my life.

• HP B8550, how to disable color management in the driver? MOS SNOW LEOPARD

  I would like to turn off the color on the printers driver management.  The challenge I'm having

  is my pictures on my computer do not match those of the printer.

  Hi bpj1242, actually you can simply disable the printer color management. What you need is an application that allows to manage the colors, such as Photoshop. In this application, you can then choose "Applacation manages colors." This will automatically disable the printer color management. In the print dialog box you will see under message options, the printer color management has been disabled.