Loss of all Redo Log files

Hello

It's for testing purposes and practice of recovery scenarios. Database is in log mode archive. My question would be on the scenario in which we loose that redo all online log files available.

Now after doing a lot of research on the internet I could find two scenarios.

CASES1

My recovery logs have been lost. But I could stop normal or immediate of the database. In this case I could perform incomplete recovery using my archived logs and re create the logs online redo with the resetlogs option.

CAS2 (my question)

My recovery logs have been lost and the system crashed. Now, oracle would need perform a recovery of proceeding on re start, however there is no present setpoint recovery to perform this restore.

Is it not possible to recover the database, even if I have a valid backup? If there is, how do you do that?

Thank you

If you lose all copies of online redo logs, you lost all those transactions. Data files may or may not have some or all of the data of those redo logs. You need restore the database and retrieve it at the point in time of the last series of archive logs (at the latest) and go from there.

But guess what? Oracle expected that someone might have a question like that, and actually (gasp) has documented the scenario:

http://docs.Oracle.com/CD/B19306_01/backup.102/b14191/recoscen.htm#i1006437

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    (2) now repeat it in real time apply won't work since the Party shall LGWR shows always "WAITING_FOR_LOG."

    (3) I can't delete and re-create this log file

    Then I tried several and found:

    The missing standby logfile was still 'ACTIVE' at present RMAN backup was made.

    For example, on db standby, under Group #4 (stby01.log) would be lost after the restoration.

    SQL > select GROUP #, SEQUENCE #, USE (s), the STATUS from v$ standby_log;

    GROUP # SEQUENCE # USED STATUS

    ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------

    4 19 ACTIVE 133632

    5 0 0 UNASSIGNED

    6 0 0 not ASSIGNED

    7 0 0 UNASSIGNED

    So until I take the backup, I tried on the primary database:

    SQL > alter system set log_archive_dest_state_2 = delay;

    This was the Group of standby_log side Eve #4 was released:

    SQL > select GROUP #, SEQUENCE #, USE (s), the STATUS from v$ standby_log;

    GROUP # SEQUENCE # USED STATUS

    ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------

    4 0 0 UNASSIGNED

    5 0 0 UNASSIGNED

    6 0 0 not ASSIGNED

    7 0 0 UNASSIGNED

    Then, the backup has been restored correctly without missing standby logfile.

    However, to change this primary database means break DataGuard protection when you perform the backup. It's not accept on the production environment.

    Finally, my real questions come:

    (1) what I do may not do on parameter change?

    (2) I know I can re-create the control file to redo before delete and then recreate after. Is there any simple/fast to avoid the standby logfile lost or recreate the lost one?

    I understand that there are a number of ways to circumvent this. Something to keep a copy of the log file waiting restoration progress and copy up one missing, etc, etc...

    And yes I always have done no real-time applies "to the aid of archived logfile" but is also not accept mode of protection of production.

    I just want proof that the design (which is displayed in a few oracle doc Doc ID 602299.1 is one of those) that backs up data backup works effectively and can be used to restore the two site. And it may be without spending more time to resume backups or put the load on the primary database to create the database before.

    Your idea is very much appreciated.

    Thank you!

    Hello

    1--> when I take via RMAN backup, RMAN does not redo log (ORL or SRL) file, so we cannot expect ORLs or SRL would be restored.

    2nd--> when we opened the ORL database should be deleted and created

    3rd--> Expecting, SRL should not be an issue.we should be able to do away with the fall.

    DR sys@cdb01 SQL > select THREAD #, SEQUENCE #, GROUP #, STATUS from v$ standby_log;

    THREAD # SEQUENCE # GROUP # STATUS

    ---------- ---------- ---------- ----------

    1 233 4 ACTIVE

    1 238 5 ACTIVE

    DR sys@cdb01 SQL > select * from v$ logfile;

    GROUP # STATUS TYPE MEMBER IS_ CON_ID

    ---------- ------- ------- ------------------------------ --- ----------

    3 /u03/cdb01/cdb01/redo03.log no. 0 online

    /U03/cdb01/cdb01/redo02.log no. 0 2 online

    1 /u03/cdb01/cdb01/redo01.log no. 0 online

    4 /u03/cdb01/cdb01/stdredo01.log WATCH No. 0

    /U03/cdb01/cdb01/stdredo02.log EVE 5 No. 0

    DR sys@cdb01 SQL > ! ls - ltr /u03/cdb01/cdb01/stdredo01.log

    method: cannot access the /u03/cdb01/cdb01/stdredo01.log: no such file or directory

    DR sys@cdb01 SQL >! ls - ltr /u03/cdb01/cdb01/stdredo02.log

    -rw - r-. 1 oracle oinstall 52429312 17 Oct 15:32 /u03/cdb01/cdb01/stdredo02.log

    DR sys@cdb01 SQL > alter database force claire logfile 4;

    change the database group claire logfile 4

    *

    ERROR on line 1:

    ORA-01156: recovery or current flashback may need access to files

    DR sys@cdb01 SQL > alter database recover managed standby database cancel;

    Database altered.

    DR sys@cdb01 SQL > change the database group claire logfile 4;

    Database altered.

    DR sys@cdb01 SQL > ! ls - ltr /u03/cdb01/cdb01/stdredo01.log

    -rw - r-. 1 oracle oinstall 52429312 17 Oct 15:33 /u03/cdb01/cdb01/stdredo01.log

    DR sys@cdb01 SQL >

    If you do, you can recreate the controlfile without waiting for redo log entry...

    If you still think it's something is not acceptable, you must have SR with support to analyze why he does not abandon SRL when controlfile_type is "underway".

    Thank you

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