Oracle concepts: Clarity needed on the recovery Instance

One of my colleague was discussing the recovery instance with me.
We've discussed on the position of the control point, the phases of recovery of body (front bearing rear bearing), and then he asked me what is the point of rolling toward the before (application of redo logs) and then roll back (undo blocks application), why not apply only committed transactions?

I told him that this happens because:
(1) roll forward to recreate the scenario just before what Instance has crashed
(2) roll front/roll back is the fastest way to recover

I don't know where I got this learning, maybe some blog or article (probably not), but is it correct?

Kind regards
Ankit Rouault

NVO wrote:

The 2nd point is completely wrong!

Let me clarify the frame of the 2nd point, it was mentioned in the context of the application only transactions posted during recovery. As all vectors of change go in the redo log files, there is a mechanism to identify only committed transactions, it would have taken more time (its really hypothetical because there is no mechanism exists, right?) by this mechanism to identify transactions of dedicated (from newspapers of recovery) that just roll forward and back.

There is no context at the moment, that's wrong , plain and simple!

There is a mechanism to identify committed transactions and called commit . But when you are recovering, you don't recover only transactions posted but you re-create the scene before the crash, which means, you would be required to apply the two vectors of change / committed and dedicated work. By your logic, if Oracle would start looking for committed transactions, it would be a lot of questions. One, time needed would be higher. Two, there may be an instance validation has been issued but before that the full validation message could reach the user, the Forum got arrested while is those blocks that can be today in the data of the file and have obtained a status of active transaction and are not sure whether or not they are committed. And finally, the LGWR writes way is just to continue to push for change vectors in the flow to restore order of the CNS. So to do a restore, you must reapply all these data that have been changed in this same order of SNA.

Instance recovery means that you do not encounter a physical file is overwritten or deleted but there is a loss of memory and some tampons were waived to be written in the data files and now, data files, control file and the log files are not synchronized.

The second point, where you say that it is the fastest, is wrong, because even for the resumption of the proceeding, it can take a lot of time and depends on the amount of work has been left before the instance has been broken. Roll forward is the way to put data files synchronized with the redo log files and control files. So if the data files were about control number 100 and control files and redo files log recording the number like 120, the missing gap of 20 numbers would be reinstated in the data files because only then, the database would be open. Now, your friend doubt that why not only committed transaction because you never say that a transaction is made only when there is a validation. Whenever any DML is encountered, it will cause a transaction. And you don't want that plenty of work to be recreated to ensure that, if there was a commit issued before the instance has been broken, the next time, Oracle would ensure that the work is there and if not, he'd be back. And above all, in redo log files all agents of change, not only for committed transactions.

That's fine, even to understand here.

Bring your own thoughts now that how you understood this explanation, until I started to get into more technical terms.

I would like to know your opinion on 1 point. Assume that something went wrong (in terms of transactions) because the instance has crashed, if he rolls forward (as it happens automatically) on the next boot, it will crash again?

He would return for the (next) start the instance. If all you're doing are plain DML, they don't plant the instance as long as you have not met any bug in the case that, next time also the instance may crash.

Aman...

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