pRDM vs vRDM
Hello to all I wanted porre una domanda sui RDM (virtual e RDM, RDM physical) brain.
Ho letto UN po in the giro:
http://blogs.VMware.com/vSphere/2012/02/migrating-RDMS-and-a-question-for-RDM-users.html
my mi sono dei doubt last.
(1) vs vRDM pRDM:
I have con pRDM e possibile fare vMotion-> VM accesa con host change? (Hot vMotion)
I have con vRDM e possibile fare vMotion-> VM accesa con host change? (Hot vMotion)
(2) make the conversion:
e possibile convertire pRDM in vRDM disco?
Currently ho ESXi and vCenter in 5.1 b upd. I have Datastore sono ancora VMFS3.
Delle Grazie Info
Nel post front omesso che avevi if trattava di Oracle RAC cluster.
Ad ogni modo, non cambiare shared bus, e prerogativa del cluster tra VM Out of Box.
TI riporto UN estratto della KB http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1003797 che ti invito a leggere.
VMware cannot vMotion and Storage vMotion migration when a virtual machine uses shared SCSI bus. This includes Oracle RAC and MSCS Virtual located on DRS datastore storage clusters.
To work around this problem, VMware recommends migrating a virtual machine that participates in the SCSI shared bus in the virtual machine, resulting in the error message and performing a cold migration to the new host. For more information on cold migration, see cold migration from 5 of vSphere documentation center.
For more information on Oracle RAC, see Appendix A of the Oracle databases on the deployment of VMware CARhttp://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/solutions/oracle/Oracle_Databases_VMware_RAC_Deployment_Guide.pdf> Guide.
Come vedi he consiglio e di migrare VM da spenta.
Ciao
Francesco
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