Speaker stops constantly (VIA High Definition Audio)

I can't for the life of understand me why the sound continues to stop periodically. Whenever I click on the "speaker" icon it again so I guess it's a registry error? Not quite sure. This system is currently running Windows 7 Professional (64 bit).

This was figured out with the software that came with the driver. HD VDeck had the headset the default value (before the computer headset port). I feel a bit stupid now, but hey-o I thought about it lol.

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    Helmet of communication.
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