Switching log file

Hi all

Greeting of the day...

Please suggest on the underside...
need to do alter switch log file if the log file is not switched for 15 minutes
Thank you
Baskar.l

HI guys,.

First post here. When you implement Data Guard, no switch came in 15 minutes, I had to force the creation of files to archive log. found this parameter ARCHIVE_LAG_TARGET [http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14237/initparams009.htm | http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14237/initparams009.htm] and I must say that I used it on the main sites with RAC. He put on a value of 15 minutes (900 seconds) resolved. It doesn't change every 15 minutes, only 15 minutes after the last archived log file if there is no archived log generated at the same time.

Hope this is what you need.

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                    Hard parses:                 94.58                  1.15
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    redo writes                                 220,866           61.3           0.8
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    transaction tables consistent re              8,704            2.4           0.0
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    Last updated 2 June 2007 Type status MODERATE HOWTO

    In this Document
    Goal
    Solution
    References

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    This document is available to you through process of rapid visibility (RaV) of the Oracle's Support and therefore was not subject to an independent technical review.

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