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• Write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy

  When the mouse is enabled this option in the export window, it says that "this option... and ignore synonyms."

  But, it does not ignore synonyms, synonym keywords are added to my list of keywords at the top level with the exported file.

  What does '... ignore synonyms "means here?

  LR always writes the keywords in the standard fields of industry IPTC:Keywords and XMP:Subject.  If you select the option write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy, it will also write key words to the XMP:HierarchicalSubject of field specific to Adobe, but with the ancestors of each included keyword.

  For example, I've defined the hierarchical keyword thing > car > BMW and BMW is synonymous with video-projector. If I export a photo with BMW entrusted to him, the exported photo will have these fields defined:

  IPTC keywords: Thing, car, BMW, Beamer

  About XMP: thing, car, BMW, Beamer

  If I choose the option write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy, the photo will also be this field:

  Hierarchical object XMP: thing. Car | BMW

  The keyword BMW wrote hierarchically with all his ancestors.  And note that synonymous with video-projector not be on that list.

  I not boned specific rules of undocumented, but I believe that LR will import each keyword that appears in IPTC:Keywords and XMP:Subject as a top-level keyword in the LR catalog (including synonyms listed in these areas).   But if the XMP:HierarchicalSubject field is present, LR which uses to match the keywords present in IPTC:Keywords and XMP:Subject with the hierarchy of the LR catalog, so they imported as top level keywords.

  But given that XMP:HierarchicalSubject contains no synonyms, LR will always be important synonyms as keywords higher level.  As discussed in another thread, I proposed a simple solution for this three years ago.

• Question of hierarchy for the keyword Lightroom 3

  I use primairly LR3 to follow the architectural photographs with many different style or maintained by keyword type designations.  A hierarchy of keywords can be Tudor > (included under the Tudor) symmetrical > Gabled (included in Tudor).  Often, I'll print contact sheets that include key words displayed in the form of photo information.  On what seems to be a completely random basis print keywords may or may not include the entire hierarchy.

  If I check Gabled include in/under Tudor I can have printed on my board contact Gabled > Tudor or just Gables.  Never is it same rest forever.  Certain keywords, symmetrical say can print as symmetrical > Tudor and always will do.  I can redo the keyword (remove and replace), and it may or may not contain the hierarchy now.

  Random action must be something I am or don't do, but have you tried thousands of times to get a consistent result with no luck.  My library of architecture has more than 126 k photos.  I used LR since the first version beta and been able to resolve or understand recent questions (if Adobe or mine).  This question has me and there appear to be no questions and answers on the subject (probably few people rely on the ability to print a string of keyword).  And Yes, there are several workaround solutions, but not how I should approach.

  Anyone, please?

  LR will only show the hierarchy of keywords if the keyword exists more than once in your list of keywords. If you have one "Gabled" keyword in the list, you will see only "Gabled" in your photo info.

  Marc

• All the keywords entered in Lightroom CC no appear in the Photoshop Info file

  HI: The solution to this problem seems like it's pretty easy, but I have not found an answer after a little research. So I apologize in advance if it is dealt with elsewhere.

  Here's the situation. In Lightroom CC, I type in the Keywords field all the keywords I want to be associated with an image. Before you export the image file to a folder on my computer, I select "Include all the metadata" and check "Write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy." But when I opened the image in Photoshop, only some of these keywords appear in the Info file. (These same words also appear if, in Lightroom, I select 'Will Export' in the menu dropdown next to "Keyword Tags.")

  I do not - and have you not want - to do anything fancy with my Keywords. I just want to type the words in the box of Keywording in Lightroom and all these words have same show when I or someone else, opens this file in Photoshop.

  Thanks for any advice you have to offer.

  How can I do that no matter what keyword I have type in the in the Keywording field in Lightroom displays all the time with no matter what image I get in? In other words, I have to go through my long string of keywords in my list of keywords and check each keyword individually (which could be really very long)?

  My default, all keywords must include on export checked.  Try to test a new keyword - is it verified?

  I've seen a few reports over the years of catalogs in which a large number of keywords had somehow got unchecked.  Unfortunately, it is impossible to batch edit keywords, your only option is to examine each keyword in turn.

• Keywording problem 2.4 Lightroom and Photoshop CS4

  I am facing a problem with keywording 2.4 Lightroom and Photoshop CS4. When I export a batch of photos that have been keyworded in LR on the desktop, and then open a photo in PS I don't find that a single keyword when I look in the menu "file info".  Any ideas on how I could fix this or what I can do wrong.

  Thanks in advance.

  In the export, under metadata dialog box, make sure that you have checked the box to 'Write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy', in this way all of your keywords will be carried over to Photoshop.   Conversely, if you do not want your keywords or other metadata to show in Photoshop, then check the box for "minimize embedded metadata". I hope this helps.

• Issue of Advanced Lightroom Keywording

  Hi all!

  Please, help me to solve the task advanced Keywording.

  I want to assign multiple keywords level 2 images. For example, for a photo, I want to be able to assign:

  (1) [category]-> [keywords] sex : male, female;

  (2) [category]-> [keywords] location : Studio,Street, building, Nature;

  (3) [category]-> [keywords] Position: standing, sitting, asking;

  (4) [category]-> [keywords] wear : Jeans, shirts, down, pants, dress, blouse, skirt, shirt, Suite,... etc.

  So, I want to see an interface with:

  (a) the image itself;

  (b) predefined categories (sex, location, Position, wear etc.);

  (c) predefined keywords grouped by categories

  and select key words in each category (click on it).

  Is it possible to do through Lightroom?

  How?

  If not, what software can help me in this matter?

  Thank you!

  If you create hierarchical keywords in Lightroom, then you can use the control panel list of keywords on the right side.

  Organize your Lightroom keywords into hierarchies of keywords | Lightroom training Laura shoe, tutorials and tips

• Synonym of keywords when exporting

  In the export window, I select the option "Write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy"... and I export. After export and adding a file in my catalog, synonymous keywords are added to my list of keywords as different keywords. ... is there any cure for this problem, other than the checkbox uncheck "export synonyms?

  Unfortunately, your only options are to stop using synonyms or uncheck export synonyms for each keyword.  Overall, manipulation of LR of synonyms is not well thought, in my opinion.  Please add your vote and detailed opinion to this feature in the Adobe official feedback forum request: Lightroom: better handling of export and re-import of synonyms for the keyword. Photoshop family customer community in general, a vote and most importantly, know why you want a feature, they influence Adobe.  Unfortunately, the library and keywords in particular received no love from Adobe for many years, and not that many people have complained over other issues, so I am not optimistic that something would change before the next ice age.  But we can always hope.

  Alternatively, you can ask the author of the plugin metadata Wrangler for a feature that strips synonyms, or perhaps the bands all keywords top-level (that might be easier to implement). The author tends to a lot more responsive than Adobe.

• Why imported separated as keywords keyword synonyms?

  Hello and sorry if this question has been asked before (this is my first time in the forums, and I find them rather user-friendly).

  Currently, I'm trying to understand the keywords and hierarchies of keywords.

  I managed to create several keywords that include keywords and synonyms, for example, the top keyword to the page 'Rental' includes the keyword Sub 'Europe', and for that I entered the synonym "Europa" (German translation of 'Europe').

  Now, I apply the keyword 'Europe' to an image, to export the image and add the image exported to my catalog. And now Lightroom automatically adds "Europa" as distinct keyword to my list of keywords. This goes against the goal of hierarchies of keywords, because my list of keywords will soon be crowded again, and all the help sites I've come up to now talk about lists of keywords without clutter.

  So, my suspicion is that I'm doing something wrong. But I'm lost... someone can help?

  I checked the option "Write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy" when export - I thought that would mean my exported image will contain the same hierarchy of keywords and so there will be no new Word added to my list when you add this file exported to my catalog. But it doesn't seem to work...

  Any suggestions?

  Thank you very much!

  Cornelia - I wrote:

  Come on, Brett.

  This isn't a solution to the problems of Simone!

  She wants the full capacity of LR of hierarchies more synonymous keywords on any level. This should work if you export out of LR and returned. Especially if you share this picture with a different person.

  Your answer means that LR is unable to do this?  That the synonyms feature does simply not, because LR cannot mark a key word, exported as a synonym of another?

  Leaving aside the tricky question of WHY it would be immediately re - import an exported image - synonyms are intended to work at the breast of a data catalog despite she was absent as real keywords on an image.

  So physically it is not necessary to include synonyms outgoing or incoming, so that these can function properly while you are in the relevant catalogue. Like Collections, synonyms and interweaving of keyword are properties of a catalog; an image.

  An image that has a real key word, ' hooks in "all automatically – associated synonym behavior and conduct of hierarchy also.

  Including these 'virtual' keywords as keywords REAL export, means that they act as real keywords. For example, they are more synonymous, they are now full keywords full - so they will appear in the list of keywords.

  If you want synonyms or implicit hierarchy to be seen OUTSIDE Lightroom then - quite simply - do not include this in your output.

  If you wish to place the images on someone else in a way that still maintains complete catalog functions you have locally; You can select and export as catalog. Or you can provide a catalog model that already contains this structure. When they import your new image and its actual keywords, all related virtual synonyms and hierarchy will already be there, for them to hang.

• LR4 exports keywords ancestor by mistake

  Hello

  I use German LR4 on Windows 7 (64-bit) machine. No installation before LR (except beta LR4), but all the files have been newly imported after erasing the LR4beta catalog.

  "Export Lightroom hierarchy" option is disabled.

  If I assign a keyword, then there ancestor is exported, too although it has the flag "Include on export" unchecked.

  Example: my hierarchy of keywords looks like this (tags in all capitals have flag "Include on export" unchecked!

  EUROPE

  -GERMANY

  -BAVARIA

  -Munich

  I have now set the photo - only Munich Munich!

  the keyword Tag preview window shows that Munich (option "exports")

  but when I sync the metadata in the file, as BAVARIA is written to the file.

  This is true for all the keywords that are a leaf in the tree of keywords. Only the ancestor next level is exported by mistake. I guess that's because unchecking "Include on export" flag implicitly Unchecks the option "Export containing keywords", too.

  Of course my keyword 'Munich' has the option "export containing keywords checked because it it the parameter by default and this seems to replace the"include on Export"= SPACE adjustment of the ancestor keyword which I regard as a mistake.

  It is virtually impossible to change each keyword in a large list of vocabulary Controlley.

  I hope that this can be corrected by a future update.

  Kind regards

  Guenther

  Sorry, I got confused between export and metadata > save metadata to a file and between 3.6 and 4 LR LR.  (Adobe has changed the meaning of the options keyword at least a couple of times since 3.0).

  I confirmed in my catalogs what Dorin observed: in LR 3.6 and 4.0, when you export images, turning off include on export in an ancestor keyword overrides export containing keywords for a descendant.

  Here is a summary of what happens when the keyword of the leaf has export containing keywords but the ancestor to include on export.  The columns in the record show if the ancestor is included in both XMP:Subject and XMP:HierarchicalSubject the original image metadata, and export columns if the ancestor is included in the metadata of the exported image:

  Version	Save		Export
  	Object	Hier.Subject	Object	Hier.Subject
  3.6	None	Yes	None	None
  4.0	Yes	Yes	None	None

  Notice the change in behavior to save metadata command between versions 3.6 and 4.0.

• Private keyword with synonyms exported tags?

  With Lightroom 3.4.1 there is a known issue with the private keyword export tags? I have a few tags that have "Include on export" unchecked, and I never check "Write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy." Despite this, I saw them in the exported files. It seems to be those who have synonyms.

  An asterisk in who discovers the means that you have several selected images, as well as the keyword (or equivalent) is defined only for some of them.

  If it's synonyms that are exported, is that saying the Word key parameters to remove exported the keyword, but in order to export the synonym. There are checkboxes that control, although two of them are sub boxes available only when first turned on.

  Note that appointed non-synonyme keywords coming to match a synonym set in another key word are not related.

• Cannot locate the files after 'Move' Lightroom 4.1

  During the import specifically 'Moving' a selection of photos of a place on the drive internal to another location on the internal disk, after that I scored the photos with keywords, Lightroom crashed.

  Now when I go to the previous import pictures are not found. Don't have files to the location to make me move. When I do a search for images with the keywords that I have these images with the tag, I can't locate. I don't see them in the trash either.

  Now, I don't know where are these images. It's very bad. I think I'll use the Finder to move the images first, then "Add" in Lightroom afterwards. It's a good thing I paid attention when I did the import.

  Snow Leopard 10.6.8

  Peter,

  FWIW, I wouldn't trust function Move Lr for anything other than a few tens of files in the same drive. If I need to move files from one disk to another, I will always use Finder because the originals are not deleted when a standard shift is done, but moves in Lr means that the originals are removed when the move is completed. The problem with this is that you are blind to what actually happened. If a problem, it is usually too late to do something.

• Keywords in Bridge CS4 - Delete when the bridge is narrow.

  Greetings

  I went through and applied tags to hundreds of images, with a respective hierarchy as well. As long as bridge remains open and turned on my computer I have access to sort and find files based on keywords.

  'Closing bridge': and all the keywords are missing from the keyword pane, with the exception of a few who are present with bridge as examples that are always there.

  I can re - select all images and keywords will load again in the keyword pane, but that takes time to manage.

  It's like some preferences file does not play, or key words are not saved in the keywords pane. I loaded this app from Photoshop CS4 again.

  One person suggested I go to preferences and UN-click 'Keywords read hierarchy' then open all my image files and even once, click on the pictures to reload the keywords in the keyword pane again. Then return to the preferences and re - click Read hierarchy of the keywords again, and everything to be in order. I did twice, once with starting point before clicking the RHK button again.

  Yet after two years of Bridge CS4, I can't use this function to search for images.

  And Yes, I select a folder or installation disk for bridge to look for key words.

  After all this time, someone to solve the riddle of trying to make this work. I can't update my Mac. I have a PowerPC, Quick Silver, 2002 G4 1000 double. 10.4.11 is the latest operating system, I believe that I can use.

  Thanks for you help.

  Nice day.

  Are you italicized keywords?  If so, they are temporary and will go away when the bridge is closed.  They will repopulate when the image is open.

  If this is the case right click on the keyword and choose 'make persistent '.

• Restoration of keywords, part 3

  Keywords are now appear (most of the time) in the keywords Panel, but in a different way that they were before you reinstall the OS fear. I don't see any of the hierarchy. All keywords are simply displayed alphabetically. And there is no box for me to check when I want to assign the keyword to another image. Anyone got any ideas? Thank you.

  In edit/preferences, there is an option to set the keywords with hierarchy or not.  Not in front of my computer with bridge so will have to do a little research of exact menu...

• Tags for Flickr help

  Using LR 6 stand alone application, no CC.

  I started using Flickr and tags on my pictures are not appearing on the uploaded Flickr photos. I turn in the LR export section write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy.

  I have entered keywords with comma and without a comma between each word. Nothing.

  So how to enter as an example-

  OFI, Tree, Cardinal, Scenic, so all tags appear on Flickr?

  Hope that's clear?

  Thank you very much

  I think we confuse Support Adobe (they often are).  I just uploaded a photo on Flickr with 6.0.1 LR test and it loaded the keywords as well as photography.  Plugin of Friedl's excellent, but I don't think that you need.

• Word key problem with the word "thinking."

  I have a set of keywords with a keyword nested inside called "thinking." I have about 200 files jpg labelled with this keyword (it looks like the object > Still_Life > reflecting) it is configured to add the keywords parents on export.

  When I import new photos (usually jpg without any words or other information), virtually every time a new keyword "reflecting" shows, not in the hierarchy of nested, where it is supposed to be, but as a keyword unique to the top of the hierarchy. There are usually 2-6 photo here. When I look at these pictures of 2-6, they are always pictures that I already imported and keyworded in 'reflection' nested hierarchy. Now they are not in the nest, they are on their own with this keyword of thugs who will not remain in its place. It happens only with that Word. I need to check the "reflection" in the nested hierarchy and uncheck the "reflective" rogue and delete to address this problem. It doesn't look like a big deal, but it becomes extremely irritating to have to do each time. Why do this keyword remain in place?

  I don't know why this is happening, if it's a bug or something I am doing wrong. I have several nested keywords and none of the other ones popping up in their hierarchy.

  When I look at these pictures of 2-6, they are always pictures that I already imported and keyworded in 'reflection' nested hierarchy.

  So shy don't you re-import a second time?

  Anyway, if your workflow is to import the exported files, here's what could happen: when you export a file and the 'Export as Lightroom hierarchy' is not checked during export, Lightroom exports all flat hierarchies of keywords as keywords. Naturally, when you import a file with flat key words, your "reflective" keyword will be added as a top-level, rather than the child keyword.