Bloating of snapshot using linked clones

I have currently a VMware view test the configuration of the environment as follows:

1 host ESXi 4.1

NetApp SAN with a volume of 250 GB configured

1 120 GB lun for the linked clones, 1 lun 60 GB for the VMs parent

vCenter vsphere, running on a windows 08 R2 vm Server (also houses see composer)

1 discovers the connection to the server running on a server 03 R2 vm windows

1 view security server running on a windows 08 R2 vm Server

So far, I was able to get the environment view work just fine.  It's a project pilot in its beginnings, there is not a lot of users (usually 1 or 2 to a maximum of time, with maybe of 5 overall users).  I noticed recently that storage that I allocated is being consumed way more that I thought it would be.

There are two parents VM, which have 2 GB of RAM with a 25 GB HD and 1 GB of RAM with a 15 GB HD, respectively.  They are sitting on their own separate logical unit number.  The first virtual machine (25GB / 2GB) has 2 clones and the second a 3 clones in a 120 GB LUN.  When I browse this data store in vSphere, I find this:

When you look at this picture, I see that the size of the virtual disk is 32 GB, which is fine for Replica 2, VMs and 5 related clones.  The part that I find confusing is that snapshots take 31,75 Go.   After further investigation by browsing the actual data store, I see this:

This clone also has a snapshot file, which is about 7 GB in size.  I checked each clone, they all have this snapshot file.  In addition, even the clones that are in the pool, but currently unfunded have this snapshot file sitting on the LUN.

Is there a setting within the opinion that took me unintentionally allowing this behavior, or each linked clone have / need this snapshot?  If it is not possible to turn it off, can someone explain to me his relevance/importance and whether or not I can remove these files?  It seems to me that to have a glimpse of a linked clone is redundant and a waste of space, I have a snapshot of the parent which I can return at any time if I need to.

Andre, it talks about the snapshot is created on the clone in 4.5.  This snapshot, allowing a quick return to the base image when you do updates where as in previous versions should be deleted the clone and build new.

Suiname if you need to remove (commit) the snapshot he would place all of the changes that had accumulated on the initial VMDK, so I don't think you would save any space out there.   If you return to this snapshot, it would open the entire space, but which is identical to a discount.

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