Captioning in Premiere Pro like medieval torture... why, at this time?

So, here am I, a videographer from the opera (and the editor in Chief). My task: take the PowerPoint file that the company used as surtitles (above the stage) and make subtitles with it. Wow! First - I've used for the past eight years-allowed just creation of subtitles! Looks for a match in the sky! Well well... None. The editor is a) intuitive, b) no interactive and c) all just stupid in its design. I put my first legend - this is Act 3 LA BOHÈME the sweep of entry "Hey there, guards! Open the door! "After going through hoops (create track legend, add to the timeline, add text in a dialog box) I see little boxes that I created... I can move them? No. I have to add THE TIME CODE to the dialog box and how long it should be displayed by intuition, NOT BY EYE. If I'm a good boy, she will show where I have to say. I can drag handles (there are the handles but my torturer at the Adobe engineering service decided I can't use them) to change the width? No, in 2016, which is too ask. It works like something designed for Windows 2.2. The team working on this thing heard of WYSIWYG? The rest of this program is designed to be visually adjusted. THIS is not the case. I'm sick. Do I really out of this DVD and design caption/subtitle tracks in Encore CS6 which has a Publisher better than this piece of disgust?

Now, imagine this scenario: I just make beautiful videos of 4K (more a Livestream of new year) eight performances. I'd use the same piece of legend and to refine the legends visually to adapt to fluctuations of tempo and different breaks that four different casts of the opera (4 sopranos play Mimi, 3 playing Musetta, 4 tenors singing Rodolfo, 3 baritones Marcello singing in different performances) to different shows (they are not robots and the timings are different in various shows). I am paralyzed by this horrible thing.

The subtitles in Encore CS6 Editor is much better than that. WHO DESIGNED THIS THING AND WHY THEY STILL HAVE JOBS? It's disgusting. Please fix.

ElJayBronx wrote:

So, here am I, a videographer from the opera (and the editor in Chief).

Nice to meet you ElJayBronx.  I am a programmer for hearing and creation. Before Adobe, I had recorded many operas while in school and my internship working on broadcasts of the Vienna Staatsoper.  So, I have an appreciation for what you do.  Are what company you satisfied to opera?

My task: take the PowerPoint file that the company used as surtitles (above the stage) and make subtitles with it. Wow! First - I've used for the past eight years-allowed just creation of subtitles! Looks for a match in the sky!

First took the opportunity to burned in subtitles for years via the titration module.  In a recent update of creative cloud, we have added the option burn-in captions to export.  I guess the latter is what you are referring.

The editor is a) intuitive, b) no interactive and c) all just stupid in its design.

If you speak on the Panel of legends that is used to modify or retarget the subtitles encoded, I want to give some information.  A few years ago I and others on the team were charged with creating a workflow for customers of broadcast on this day that someone could edit video in first Pro, without having closed captions (usually embedded in the video signal) fell on the ground.  There are different ways some NLE do that, but in our customer research, we found that many broadcasters also wanted to change pre-existing of captioning.  Usually, this should be a Retiming or maybe fixing a spelling error.  We never had the intention that there be a solution for people to manually enter many captions (or subtitles) from scratch.  However, we wanted to give some of the features that could make some minor changes.  Every year at the NAB Show, I was really surprised by the number of people who go into the voting booth and say, they created subtitles via this Panel from scratch.  My eyes open usually wide as does my jaw. I tell them something along the lines "wow, it must be painful', to which they respond with the assertion but also to point out that he avoids them having to buy dedicated (and expensive) captioning software.

I put my first legend - this is Act 3 LA BOHÈME the sweep of entry "Hey there, guards! Open the door! "After going through hoops (create track legend, add to the timeline, add text in a dialog box) I see little boxes that I created... I can move them? No. I have to add THE TIME CODE to the dialog box and how long it should be displayed by intuition, NOT BY EYE. If I'm a good boy, she will show where I have to say. I can drag handles (there are the handles but my torturer at the Adobe engineering service decided I can't use them) to change the width? NO.

Again, the intent of the closed captioning stream was for content that was already captioned.  I agree with you that it makes sense to have subtitles on the real movable clip markers, as clip markers are (hence the similar user interface).  However, I will point out that you can actually do this by editing the normal timeline.  You can actually razor the clip with the legends and make your move and cutting in this way. Once I show this to video editors, they usually pick up on it immediately and workaround is not so painful.  As a reminder, by slide and hack subtitle markers on a clip: a painful tease that's going nowhere slide and hack the captioning of the clips themselves, however, is as fluid as it is elsewhere in the timeline.

The team working on this thing heard of WYSIWYG?

Yes.

The rest of this program is designed to be visually adjusted. THIS is not the case.

We weren't able to do a WSIWYG implementation due to the complexity of the way in which the coded subtitles are encoded. It relies on technology from the beginning of the 1980s (late of the 1970s for Teletext for PAL) and has many limitations that makes things connecting to a harder visual interface.  Can it be done? Yes. Wouldn't be a lot of work? Without a doubt.

Do I really out of this DVD and design caption/subtitle tracks in Encore CS6 which has a Publisher better than this piece of disgust?

If your result is a DVD or Blu - Ray, which might be a better choice than the current workflow of captioning in first.  The callback functions are designed so that it looks like you are trying to reach.

Now, imagine this scenario: I just make beautiful videos of 4K (more a Livestream of new year) eight performances. I'd use the same piece of legend and to refine the legends visually to adapt to fluctuations of tempo and different breaks that four different casts of the opera (4 sopranos play Mimi, 3 playing Musetta, 4 tenors singing Rodolfo, 3 baritones Marcello singing in different performances) to different shows (they are not robots and the timings are different in various shows). I am paralyzed by this horrible thing. The subtitles in Encore CS6 Editor is much better than that.

Please try to chop the subtitle clips themselves as described above. You can resynchronize than elsewhere everything as if you were to sync up to an audio clip in the timeline panel.

WHO DESIGNED THIS THING AND WHY THEY STILL HAVE JOBS?

I did as well as some other team.  I always go to the office every day because the work is not done, and I am pleased to have an impact on the work done for our customers.

It's disgusting. Please fix.

Noted. I can't talk publicly about the plans for future work, but be aware that many of us on the team to read your message here as well as your email that went through the tech support escalation process.

Charles

P.S. I would like to see the work you do with the first. I'm not interested in criticizing it, but I would like to see it because the last measures of the 4th act in La Bohème still gives me chills.

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