Dysfunction of detail sharpening in ACR

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  Output sharpening in Photoshop CS5 and Adobe Camera Raw (ACR)

  I want to do two-pass sharpening - capture and output - with output just before printing. I do the initial sharpening (capture) in the Panel of the cab detail/sharpening, with amount slider game for example, 100.  Then, I open the PS CS5 image as a smart object and use layers and masks for more editing.

  My question is, can I go back to ACR for the final (output) sharpening pass?  When I re - open the file in ACR, the sharpening amount slider is zero, but the other three sliders are still at the settings I used at the beginning of the process, i.e., capture sharpening.  If I still once set the amount slider to a positive value, and then open the image in PS for printing, will be my second pass through the ACR sharpening Panel take effect - it will accumulate on top of the initial sharpening?

  Moreover, the reason why I want to give sharpening in ACR, rather than, say, PS Unsharp Mask, is if I can use the masking slider in ACR, which is much easier than the comparable techniques available in PS.  I am aware that some people say that you shouldn't perform any masking for output sharpening. I would, however.

  Thanks for the ideas.

  3D eyes wrote:

  My question is, can I go back to ACR for the final (output) sharpening pass?

  Not sure about the amount reset... I think that something is happening out there. But to answer your question, the details of Camera Raw Panel is designed to be a capture sharpening and not designed to be output sharpening. Controls are really designed to regain lost sharpness turning light pixels with an optical system only.

  He got out there available sharpening in Camera Raw, but only in the workflow Options button. Click on that and you will see the options. Yes, they apply the good output sharpening, but be careful he applies what he you this smart object... no other layers above or below this layer.

• What is the best "workflow" for sharpening Ultimate w PSE 8?

  I shoot a lot of flowers near upward and also birds. Both have lots of details, feathers or Stamen, so I rely heavily on the sharpening. With birds, sometimes they are flying or remote or both, which makes it difficult to get sharp photos. Recently, I learned a lot about sharpening and now I am suffering, "I know, more I know that I don't know." In addition, some of my information is based on rumor and I appreciate all the advice. What would you say if I discuss my work flow and ask a few questions here and there.

  I shoot RAW with a Canon 7 d and I almost always reduce my photos to nnnn x 1080 for that conversation, lets assume that I always do this downsizing. I heard that reduced pictures should never be sharpened up to the once they are reduced. Is this true? Should I set all sliders sharpening in ACR to zero? Should I also keep the low clarity slider in ACR or is it more your contrast medium and less sharpening? Is there another way to improve the clarity in PSE, ACR not?

  When I finished with the cab and open in the elements, the first thing I do is crop and resize using Image, resize, bicubic sharper. Then I correct the imperfections. Then, I select on the subject (s) and adjust the curves of colors and then light sharpening, which seems to give me the best results that Enhance-setting sharpness. (After two years of use of items I found this bright sharpness and it's so good. I wish I would have notice this Brundage in the earlier book. I did ask me what I'm missing.) After light sharpening should I try high-pass sharpening more or any other type of sharpening? Is there empirical rules on what kind of sharpening works best in which application? For example, I heard another rumor that sharpening of the strong or the shadows just increases noise. Is there a good way to handle these situations, as select out them, or use a special blending mode?

  After I'm done with the subject, I usually reverse in the background and noise and/or blurr and Desaturate to puncture the subject.

  Is Photoshop complete necessary to get the best sharpening tools or sharpening similar and other aspects are more powerful? I use so little of 8 items that I guess and hope that Photoshop or Lightroom would be overkill at this stage.

  Thank you very much for this review! If you can think of anyway I could improve, I would really appreciate any comments.

  Doug

  I'm a little worried about it:

  Using Image, resize, Bicubic Sharper

  Is there a special reason why resampling belongs to your basic workflow? It is generally not something you want to do until you have to.

• ACR Presets 6.1RC

  Hello

  I tend to use a set of presets as starting point for the capture sharpening in ACR (a portrait, a landscape etc.). When I saved these only sharpening box has been checked - so that they affect sharpness and does not change other settings of the cab. However, in ACR6.1 when I apply one of these presets, the sliders on the 'basic' tab i.e. exhibition; brightness etc all return to their default value instead of remaining unchanged. It's annoying because I tend to work from left to right on the tabs.

  I tried to recreate one of these presets in ACR6.1 and the effect is all the same.

  I'm doing something wrong or is this a bug?

  (In case it makes any difference, I use ACR6.1 in CS5 on a 32-bit windows Vista system).

  Dave

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• Quality of NEF conversion/demosaicization in Camera Raw

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  Please, I have a question for you experts on the quality of image files NAVE of Nikon D7100 open in Camera Raw.

  I have reviewed a file NAVE D7100, load in Camera Raw 7.4, and enlarged to higer zoom, it is possible to see maybe a few worries demosaicing.

  You can clearly see that the slanted lines are demosaicized in blocks of 2 x 2 pixels. This is true regardless of the sharpness.

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  I have about 100 JPEGs that I need to cheer up.  I need to adjust the brightness in "100" on each; is there a quick way?  "Treat multiple files" does not...

  Thank you!

  Simple and powerful: use the ACR (Camera raw).

  Depending on the power and the amount of RAM on your computer, you can now open and edit multiple files at the same time in the ACR module.
  Use the menu file/open in camera raw.

  Select a batch of files (say 20 to begin by)

  Select all the files in the camera roll on the left.

  When they are highlighted, you will notice that the ACR module shows its AutoCorrect settings. Generally the brightness of your images will already be improved.

  The changes you apply to the sliders will change all the images highlighted.

  Take advantage of the opportunity to refine all the other sliders made highlights/shadows, clarity, vibrance, sharpening or noise reduction...

  Tip:

  What you do in the ACR module do not alter the original jpeg pixels. Only the parameters are saved, which is called parametric edition. So after this editing session, when you save the changes ('Done' button), you are able to reopen the jpeg (it will open automatically in ACR, even from the Organizer). You will be able to start editing with either:

  1 - the values of the original jpeg (turn all the sliders to zero, auto or custom in the right panel).

  2 - the AutoCorrect default CAB
  3 - your latest changes (settings file)
  4 - the session settings of most recent edition (which is useful to apply to several image consecutively).

  These settings are saved in the jpeg metadata section. No need to create a version set at this stage.

  Important: even if you are happy with the automatic settings default to ACR, apply a little change of your choice so that the settings are saved in the metadata section when you click on 'Done '.

  You have now edited your first batch. If you use the orgnizer, you might want to "update thumbnails', which show the improvement of brightness in thumbnails. You are ready to make the necessary changes to individual files, such as cropping or sharpening in ACR. Instead of clicking "Done", you can click on 'Open' to open the file in the Editor (you can change in 8 or 16-bit). You must go into the editor to apply other changes as layers, local adjustments. you use the editor to register in any other format file or print.

  For the next batch, the mounting parameters are available in the dropdown to the right (previous conversion). Open files, highlight all, select previous conversion, click 'Done '. Wait for the settings to be saved in jpeg files.

  In a situation where you have 100 files JPEG, the workflow that the above is by far the fastest and most flexible you can use. Imagine you have a white balance bad setting of your camera, you can imagine the time you need by editing individual files in the editor?

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  I found the fisherman, detail of sharpening.

  Sharpening of detail has little effect the image shown in the develop module, unless it is established at 1:1 or more. The effect of sharpness of details is demonstrated very cleary in the library at any magnification module. I had detail sharpening to 100 (was barely perceptible in the develop module).

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  And develop and library will not display sharpening and noise reduction identically according to Fit, but they will be at the 1:1.