Epson R1900 and iCC/iCM, profiling... When do you give up?

I use Windows 7 64-bit (non - SP1) and Lightroom 3.3 with an Epson R1900 printer.

Sorry if it's breath, but I tried a lot of myself and had to break and post it here.

I read a lot of posts already on disabling color management in the printer or LR 3.3. I downloaded all possible profiles of Epson or other places that sound quite logic to help with my tray paper. I understand that my screen might be too light or too dark and lightroom interface itself could even give the impression of a photo is too bright or too dark. I read on shaping iCC twice, first in the software then the printer. I used a calibrator Spyder3 Print SR and Spyder 3 display.

No matter what combination I try, my photos print too dark, well sure, but worse still, the color is really off (plus brightness). I understand also, there are many printers, so it can be hard giving accurate toggles in the options that may not yet exist with those printer.

Now, I'm not nearly as educated as most of you on these issues, so I will ask a few questions (sorry if they seem 'newbish').

First of all, I understand (or am currently under the impression) that Lightroom uses what is called "MelissaRBG or alias"BastardRGB"to print to the screen (?).» If this is true, the iCC-exporter profile should not be MelissaRGB.icc? Now if this is true, shouldn't the host (Win7) look different being set to sRGB for what is in Lightroom? It is not on my system. Yet once if this profile of Melissa is true, export-only Lightroom in MelissaRGB between characters on the screen and what to give .icc profile you have chosen to export in? In other words, are there only a handshake that goes with Melissa.

Secondly, where the host .icc beginning and end. I guess that since Lightroom does not come packed with drivers for each graphics card, Manager of color of the host must pass a matrix of colors for the Lightroom software.

Third, being 2 questions above might be a simplistic uncontrollable users and I don't see what I'm doing wrong, we should just use the basic controls of the printer module? In my case, I get better prints are when I use color printers Manager modules of 'Sharp Epson' with a 10 + 4 to saturation and brightness. Of course, that does not help when I want to print canvas or perhaps other types of paper. However, all the profiles in the world with my Spyder3 Print SR could be correct, but I'll never know because the impressions come out still average.

Try them all and failure make me feel like the guy who's barely qualified to do small rocks of a rock, just give me a hammer. Should I give up and let rip with cursors and keep your eyes closed?

Moreover, it is really very few found easily by search engines that explain how the profiling must be set UP on a computer in specific practice. But yes, there are MANY who want to will guide you through mathematics and the theory of it all, the software simply not special how managing, not even the operating system.

Checking just a few things.  You did all this, and some have been said before, I'm trying just for the complete list:

  • I think you are saying that you have calibrated your screen with Spyder 3.  To check, when you check the profile in the control panel of W7, it will show the profile that you created with Spyder 3 by default for the monitor (if not, something is wrong)
  • I'm not familiar with the Spyder 3 software, but it gives you the possibility to adjust the brightness of the screen?  It should be 100-120 cd/m2.  None.  If you can't put it in the s/w Spyder, try changing the brightness down and recalibration with Spyder.  You can also use the software "Colorimeter HCFR" (http://www.homecinema-fr.com/colorimetre/index_en.php) to measure the profile settings, including brightness.
  • Another control on the brightness: get a piece of white paper for printer and with lighting ambient normal hold it near your monitor when something white showing.  The screen seems much brighter than paper?  If so, it may be too bright.  Modern monitors are much too bright by default.  My HP monitor glow going on 15 / 100 to get 100 cd/m2.
  • When printing from LR, select the box "Print Job" (bottom right in the print module) "profile: SPR1900 Premium Glossy ', or whatever the name of the profile is for the paper you're using (I guess the name, I have a R1800).  That is to say LR to color - eat the printer and it say what profile to use.
  • Click on Page layout... (L, down) and set the type of paper in the Epson dialog.  Click Advanced (I think it's a separate tab in the R1900, it's a button in the main tab on the R1800) and in 'color management' check ICM and (very important) check "(no color correction).  I'm not sure with the R1900, but on the main tab, you may need to ' Mode: custom "and"No. color adjustment"in the drop down menu.  It says that the printer driver:
    • color management is used (so don't mess with colors to make them 'pretty', what she would have done otherwise)
    • color management is done by the application, not the driver (in other words, saying: the pilot to do nothing)
  • The important thing is that the printer color management should be in one place only.  The method above gets done in LR, you can also disable in LR and use the driver, but I recommend the steps above.

If this is all OK, it should work.  Print to the output will never be the same as the screen - they are different physical representations of the image - but the color should be close enough.

You said LR using a form of color space ProPhoto as his workspace.  This isn't a problem.  It is just a convenience for LR and has absolutely no effect on the output.  The only point is that the workspace must be at least as large as the original image color space, the color space of the monitor and the color printer (so it does not limit the color). LR automatically converts the image to:

  • the color space of the monitor to display the images (if you have an appropriate profile for the monitor, which should be done by spyder 3)
  • the space of color printer, you specify when printing, without forgetting the driver as shown above.

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