HSRP between 3 carrots

Hi all

I currently have 2 4506 CORE switch each channel trunking 4GB and the HSRP runs on them!

We´re student a new backup site as a distance of 3km... We decided to put a third central 6509 or any other switch!

The first, we´re student a stand-alone solution... the core stay there more than any other passage in the LAN... If something is wrong we turn this core as a VTP server and add the HSRP...

And second, to the third nucleus as part of the VTP and HSRP server... so 3 COREs at the same time...

My question to you, the experts, is if it's possible? I've heard of GLBP? but Im trying to check first if its possible to add a third CORE using HSRP between them!

Thanks for any help!

-WH-

Hello WH.

Here are my thoughts;

1. I wouldn't run L2 to the base layer, so no need to worry about the VTP configuration.  In any case if VTP is going to run to the base layer you want to make sure that all 3 core devices have the latest information to VLAN before something goes wrong.  That means you must run all three devices using the VTP Server simultaneously.  This isn't really a 'feature' that you enable / disable when problems arise.  Instead, it is something that should be integrated into your overall design strategy to minimize interruptions of network service by ensuring the consistency of database VLAN.  VTP modes also lets you control devices can add/remove entries in the environment of databases on the VLAN.

2 HSRP configurations are defined by group numbers and use the values for priority (default = 100) to determine the active and standby roles.  Each group can have several routers before (e.g. Core1 HSRP group1, priority 140 |) HSRP Core2 group1, priority 130 | CORE3, HSRP-group1, priority 120).  In this case Core1 is in State active and carrots 2 and 3 are in the waking state.  When the subnet loses reference1 connecivity... Processor Intel Core 2 will become the active router and when the subnet loses connectivity to processor Intel Core 2... CORE3 becomes the active router.  If you want Core1 to become the active router again once things are in order you should ensure preempt is configured accordingly.

I hope this helps!

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    June 10-13:21:21 CEST: % FOLLOW-UP-5-STATE: accessibility of als 1 ip 123 Down-> Up
    June 10-13:21:22 CEST: % HSRP-5-STATECHANGE: Vlan1 Grp 10 State Speak-> Active
    June 10 at 13:36:26 CEST: % FOLLOW-UP-5-STATE: accessibility of als 1 ip 123 Up-> down
    June 10 at 13:36:28 BST: % HSRP-5-STATECHANGE: Vlan1 Grp 10 active state-> Speak
    June 10 at 13:36:31 CEST: % FOLLOW-UP-5-STATE: accessibility of als 1 ip 123 Down-> Up
    June 10-13:36:34 CEST: % HSRP-5-STATECHANGE: Vlan1 Grp 10 State Speak-> Active

    My understanding of the above config is that assets will be poll IP MPLS sponge at intervals of 10 seconds using ICMP. However based on the log above, it seems that the active router detects that a ping fails 13:36:26 but realizes then he returned at 13:36:31 only 5 seconds later. But if only, he asks every 10 seconds, wouldn't he at LEAST 10 seconds until what he questions again to see that it is?

    Given the length and line noise on some of these sites MPLS, a small piece of packet loss and reduced speed is acceptable. However, I want to assure you that I understand perfectly followed works before I watch his sensitivity to allow perhaps more tolerance of adjustment.

    Thanks for any help in advance. :)

    Hello

    Tracking queries ip SLA I think that every 5 sec (not sure on that) and your sending a ping every 10 seconds via ip sla

    So if als Miss ping then the follow-up question again before an another sla ping and the follow-up will kick down your state of hrsp.

    You have verified that the destination address sla is indeed available, then maybe try adding a delay to the State track down.

    follow 123
    deadline 30 down

    RES

    Paul

  • FabricPath or OTV between two data center using Direct fiber cable

    Hello

    I have two data center both of them has the same equipment N7k, N5k and N2k, and we want the dataCenter being active/active, I'm really confused to use OTV or FabricPath characteristic, if someone can help me with my scenario and explain to me what is the best solution and advantage and disadvantage between OTV and PabrcPath.

    Many thanks in advance

    Hi Steven,

    No problem, I'll go through your points as completely as possible. I advise you to read more about these protocols, maybe if you have access to INE or similar, see their videos on this. I would also like to say again that I have not seen all documentation Cisco indicating that FabricPath to be used as a DCI.

    With regard to the way fabric you ask what follows...

     1. only can use it between two datacenters of you have more we can't, please correct me?

    No, you can use the path of fabric with more than two data centers, but even with OTV, you can use it with more than two data centers.

     2. HSRP localization can not be implemented as OTV. However You can have two differnet Gateways at the Data Center 1 and 2 using two different HSRP groups. If server is moved dynamically from, (i didn't understand this point can you please explain with example?

    OK, so this is a GREAT topic. Location of HSRP CAN be implemented with OTV, but cannot be implemented with fabric path. First hop redundancy protocols can be localized and is supported by Cisco with OTV, this basically allows the same default gateway to reside in two of your data centers providing the ACTIVE/ACTIVE configuration. So no matter where your VM is, they did not change their default, even if gateway your servers to move to the other datacenter.

    If we didn't have this, we would have only an active member of HSRP divided between DC and things would be extremely troublesome in regard to traffic flows. A virtual machine in DC2 VLAN needs to talk to host in VLAN B. But the default gateway is completely in DC1. So frame is sent to the ICD in DC1, then the gateway by default, routes packets VLAN B. This VLAN B lies in fact in DC2, so now it has to go all the way back to DC2. You get my point...? :)

    With localization happen only local to the domain controller. If all servers / VMS in the domain controller can speak locally to its "own" default gateway.

     3. unknown unicast flooding (can you give me an example?)

    Unknown unicast traffic is unicast packets/images with unknown destination mac address. By default, switches are flooding this type of traffic to all ports in the VLAN. With path of fabric that would take place during your DCI, but with OTV, it is all taken care locally, so massive savings on bandwidth here and it is much more effective.

     4. ARP optimization between Data Center (can you give an example regarding ARP optimization?)

    There is another function of OTV, which makes it far superior on the way of tissue. Essentially, we are reducing the volume of traffic passing through the transport infrastructure (i.e. ICD)

    When ARP, host in DC1 to host that responds in DC2, we use links and there is travel time of package that might be minimal, but is not the most optimal. OTV AED - or edge device spy ARP response and subsequently knows that this mapping exists from there. ARP takes place after the first Protocol, the EDA almost proxy ARP to DC1 so the ARP request locally does not have to travel to DC2.

     5. Typically two flows (Odd VLANs by OTV-VDC-1 and even vlans by OTV-VDC-2) carry the entire layer 2 traffic flow between the two Data Centes. Hence the load balancing the links is not efficient. ( (can you explain compare with FabricPath if you have example?)

    IMHO, it's bad and good. Balance the workload of the OTV if you have more than an AED on site. VLAN strange appointment via an AED, even numbered VLAN go through the other. Depending on traffic on VLANs, this could become unbalanced. Fabric used by all its links to mac addresses 'route' to the respective SID - ID switch she needs to do. So perhaps a better uniformity of split here.

     6. VLAN scalability for OTV is lower than FabricPath as of this content writing. (can you explain what this mean i didn't understand it)

    I completely disagree with this comment. I too do not understand.

     7. Resiliency of FabricPath network is better than OTV in some failure scenarios.(can me an example ?)

    I also disagree with that. Resilience of path of fabric could be same as OTV or perhaps better. However, my personal experience is that OTV fine tuning with things like BFD failover is much faster!

    Fabric is good because the control of aircraft ISIS and its operation is admirable, but could say the same for the OTV.

    Lets say one of the DCI links had to die, the transmission of the tissue path would continue through the other links, then perhaps for low latency, high frequency, environments that would be beneficial. OTV will change the EDA and re - learn mac, announced by other AEDS, addresses, but as I said, the time could be extremely minimal and tuning. This isn't a big deal, unless you need under second time convergence!

    I hope that I have answered your questions, I recommend use for your DCI OTV, use the path of fabric for your inside of local switching in your DC. This has been implemented repeatedly and the links I sent you the models validated Cisco also point out.

    Remember - fabric has been built to be a step towards TRILL, and replacement of protocols spanning-tree, OTV was built especially for the dci. They are both built and examples of specific design. It makes no sense to get these confused or mixed up, unless there is a real and pressing the case.

    Joel conclusion is right, use the right tools for the job. If the use case is good for the FP then OK, if not, OTV.

    Rcmnd - reading http://www.packetmischief.ca/2013/04/23/DCI-series-overlay-transport-vir...

    These are just my thoughts.

    Bilal (CCIE #45032)

  • How to configure the FWSM with HSRP support

    Hi all

    We have 2 * 6500 Series switches with each FWSM core installed.

    There are some users of VLANs (each floor) and a lot of servers inside that belong to some other VLANs.

    Basic switches have been configured with redundancy HSRP (active/passive).

    Today, I am picky with FWSM routed mode configuration.

    There is no problem with the default configuration and testing,

    I mean assigning VLANS to FWSM and delete addresses IP of MSFC.

    But unfortunately whenever I have such a configuration, do I lose naturally redundancy between switches.

    In our situation HSRP is a must.

    Is it possible to fix this design in routed mode, with support HSRP. ?

    Thank you

    Erdem.

    Hi Erdem,

    (correct me if I'm wrong, Jon) - If you remove all the Lass you must route all traffic of course the FWSM.

    What we did was to create a transfer network (VLAN) with a SVI and FWSM inside external interface. Now, the default gateway on the FWSM is on the IP address of the SVI. So most of the range is configured on the switch.

    Kind regards

    Jürgen

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