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• messy color management issues

  I created a few illustrations of hundreds of Quilt to CMYK. The colors in the illustrations are approximate and there is no way around that. Illustration files have been created well before I knew that I have to do the color management.

  My office is as neutral as I can get it, which shouldn't be too hard.   And it will have the desired ambient light. The book goes 4 x color press. The office of printing service provided me with the ICC profile for their press.

  This is the first piece of the puzzle: the quilt is in Wisconsin, and I am in South Carolina. Thus, specific colors are a problem. I sent the author a book of fan of Pantone Coated 4 color Process and asked to match the colors of cloth with Pantone colors as much as she can then send me the CMYK values. The book will be printed on coated text papter. It seems logical that if I am using profiles right and using its CMYK values, we should get a reasonable color rendering. (Note that I didn't say "exact").

  So the question #1: as a starting point, this approach has a sense for you?

  Next piece of the puzzle: I will soon receive a photograph of the quilt in RGB (obviously). The photographer takes snapshots in Adobe RGB. This photo will be the only source of color information, I have, except a few samples of tissue from the quilt.

  So question #2: if I convert to CMYK photo so it has the same color profile that the illustrations, if a color of the carpet seems like a match reasonalbe with the corresponding color in the illustration, can I rely on this information?

  Regarding correction of color between red and green, ago more red and reddish brown than green, so the intention of encouraging the reds in the profile.

  I'm probably too simplify these problems. But I'm in the ballpark?

  Thanks in advance.

  Toni

  Toni,

  Sorry for the delay: the ragworts kept luring me further and further away (others may have other excuses, or maybe wait silently, relying on my ansering as soon as I'm back in the cool of the farm, I hope not just waiting to go for we two).

  I created a few illustrations of hundreds of Quilt to CMYK. The colors in the illustrations are approximate and there is no way around that. Illustration files have been created well before I knew that I have to do the color management. I assume you used a limited number of colors, matching fabrics, so you can change shades or use Select > same > fill color, no?

  My office is as neutral as I can get it, which shouldn't be too hard.   And it will have the desired ambient light. The book goes 4 x color press. The office of printing service provided me with the ICC profile for their press.

  This is the first piece of the puzzle: the quilt is in Wisconsin, and I am in South Carolina. Thus, specific colors are a problem. I sent the author a book of fan of Pantone Coated 4 color Process and asked to match the colors of cloth with Pantone colors as much as she can then send me the CMYK values. The book will be printed on coated text papter. It seems logical that if I am using profiles right and using its CMYK values, we should get a reasonable color rendering. (Note that I didn't say "exact").

  So the question #1: as a starting point, this approach has a sense for you? It does: it's perhaps the best way, assuming that the book is based on the same standards of color than the ink used by the printer (the book in front of me is Euroscale). This means that the author is rather deeply involved in the management of the color, which can be a good thing (she knows more or less what is possible and what she gets).

  Next piece of the puzzle: I will soon receive a photograph of the quilt in RGB (obviously). The photographer takes snapshots in Adobe RGB. This photo will be the only source of color information, I have, except a few samples of tissue from the quilt.

  So question #2: if I convert to CMYK photo so it has the same color profile that the illustrations, if a color of the carpet seems like a match reasonalbe with the corresponding color in the illustration, can I rely on this information? I doubt: depends on the correctness of the colors in the picture (only the author can say, perhaps), and it's two-step, fabric > RGB > CMYK. You can use it as an additional reference.

  Regarding correction of color between red and green, ago more red and reddish brown than green, so the intention of encouraging the reds in the profile. I think you should go for a good game in the Greens (and other colors), to have balanced and enjoyable work.

• Illustrator and blending modes. Color management issue.

  Let's say I do 2 circles with 2 different fill colors. Then I meet and mix with multiply. Is it possible to save the color resulting on the intersection?
  Thank you!

  Object > flatten transparency

• What's up with the bridge color management?

  After obtaining a range wide screen (Eizo S2243W), it was a pleasure to be able to see the Adobe RGB colors that I knew were in the file, but previously could not be displayed. Although the Windows desktop and interface elements user sounds loud, I got used to that.

  ID, PS, AI, everything works perfectly. But I discovered that the bridge does not follow suit. The funny is that it shows the mute, standard version for 'gamut' - saturated not as one would expect with a range wide screen and non-functional color management (if this is the case). The only reasonable explanation for what I see is that the document profile is converted to sRGB. I can't reproduce otherwise.

  I'm no stranger to the color of help desk management, and according to my experience, the prime suspect in this case is still the monitor profile. So I've done several things to validate the profile. I recalibrated using the calibrator Eizo grouped with its EX1 (actually just a renamed Spyder3) sensor, and I recalibrated using color eyes Display Pro with another probe Spyder3. I also tried with Adobe RGB as the monitor profile just for troubleshooting.

  In all cases, I checked in the color settings PS that the profile has been actually used, and in any case, the effect of muting still shows in Bridge. Now, I am sure that PS/ID/HAVE rendering is indeed good. Suite color management is synchronized, using Adobe RGB as RGB working space.

  I have also purged caches of bridge in every way I can think and then reset the preferences of Bridge by ctrl-launch and control of the confirmation dialog box.

  The screenshots of the following two require a color managed browser and a range wide screen, since the difference is outside the sRGB gamut. The first used Adobe RGB as a monitor profile and a Adobe Integrated RGB, the second has the Eizo monitor profile assigned and integrated. They are similar, but the other should show exactly as I see it (click to view the display not set cache, the difference does not directly show in Firefox):

  

  

  Any ideas what is happening here?

  (Also published in the forum for color management)

  Sorry, that was a little short.

  Bridge poster of the images based on the pre-rendered JPEG files that it stores in its memory cache. It's thumbnails, larger and sometimes 100% previews previews. When creating these JPEG files, it uses made color Relative to the color space sRGB. However, it is usually * displays them correctly, based on the primary poster color profile.

  * Sometimes it gets bad, and you must minimize/maximize the window to retrieve.

• PS 7 Why does not Adobe RGB files?

  I have an Olympus E-620 DSLR. When I put the color space in the camera into sRGB, after downloading the images, when I click to open in Photoshop 7, the images are correctly identified as sRGB files. When I put in the camera to Adobe RGB color space, Photoshop does not recognize the format. Please see the picture below.

  Question 1: Why does Photoshop not recognize Adobe RGB files?

  Question 2: What can I do to make Photoshop recognizes the Adobe RGB files?

  Question 3: If I assign the Adobe RGB profile in Photoshop to Adobe RGB file unrecognized, that even make any sense? Are 'additional data' Adobe RGB offers compared to sRB there again even if the profile is not recognized in the first place?

  I am very grateful for all the comments and tips!

  

  Assuming these are JPEG images, JPEG format use integrated EXIF metadata to indicate that the files are sRGB. In the EXIF specification, there are only two possible in the metadata, either sRGB or unspecified flags. He doesn't are not of type ICC profiles full files, just tags. When a camera is set to Adobe RGB, it cannot set the Adobe RGB color space in the EXIF metadata. The camera makers have circumvented this limitation is often include underscore in the beginning of the name such as _IMG12345, JPG. Photoshop 7, which is very old, does not understand the importance of underscore in regards to an indication of the different RGB color space. Currently versions do... might be time for an update eh?

  And, as Chris said, you need to avoid warning of profile and assign Adobe RGB images.

• Color CIE and Adobe RGB spaces

  Looking at the monitor specifications, generally, the color space of the monitor is given in a color space target, as 96% Adobe RGB. Some give more, but sometimes Dell, u2412, and they provide a: 82% CIE.

  I know what is the CIE, but make an estimate of the spec from Dell no longer requires that what I currently know about these issues.

  So, what are the expectations? Is this a significant spec for the sake of comparison? IOW, how Adobe RGB join CIE 1976?

  TIA

  Laurent

  CIE is a standards body.  It isn't really a CIE color space (well, there are many who have different names and do not apply to the monitors).

  So I'm not sure what they are referring to.

• Profiling evidence broken with Adobe RGB 1998 color images

  I recently discovered a problem with Photoshop CS6 on my Windows 7 system. When you perform the proofing with "Proof colors" selected on the Adobe RGB 1998 color profile images there is loss of Red saturation. When checking the ProPhoto RGB, Colormatch RGB, and sRGB image files there is no difference with the same profile selected in the Conditions of proof options settings. This only happens with images Adobe RGB 1998. I even tried ProPhoto RGB, Adobe RGB images conversion to be sure that it is not a problem with the file. Problem with the Adobe RGB files.

  I just tried my PS 32-bit installationn and does NOT have this problem, just the 64-bit version.

  Here is an example:

  

  Put your performance of the GPU to base parameters, otherwise PS maybe ask the GPU for color mapping and there may be problems with this:

  https://forums.Adobe.com/message/6219761

• Color management policies

  If color management policies are disabled in the control panel of the Photoshop color settings dialogue that happens when a file is pasted into a document that has a different workspace? Is the pasted file is converted in the workspace or are the numbers assigned to the workspace?

  EG: Working space is Adobe RGB 1998, the file being stuck in this document contains an Adobe sRGB space. The color numbers in the pasted document will convert to Adobe RGB 1998 or they will be affected?

  Thank you

  Citing the Description area of the Photoshop color management settings to the 'Off' RGB policy:

  "When you import the colors in a document, the numerical values of the colors are priorities on the appearance of the color."

  An assignment will take place.  Using your example, I checked by pasting a picture of sRGB rainbow gradient in Adobe RGB document with RGB strategy set to Off.  The rainbow gradient has changed to look the same, we would see if they had taken the original document of sRGB and reassigned it the Adobe RGB profile.

• Folder "Global colors without a name" of Pantone Color Manager ASE

  Hi all

  I'm not sure if this - or something similar - has been answered before, but I couldn't find any suitable thread/message /...

  All first of all system information:

  OSX imac running 10.8.x and macbook OSX 10.9.1 running

  * Illustrator CC

  * Pantone Color Manager

  I try to use the Pantone Fashion and home / color paper library provided by Pantone color Manager, clean for the use of the radiant missawi 18-3224 TPX (color of 2014). I saved the library named in a *.ase file and opened it in artificial intelligence. The number of colors, I guess, that all colors are imported, but I can't find the 18-3224. BUT there are a lot of 'no name Global Colors"with some of them who could be in question. Using 'pantone.ase xxd' in the terminal I can find at least the name "radiant 18-3224 TPX Orchid", which means, it is saved in the given file. Does anyone have an idea where start or - even better - how to solve this problem?

  Looking forward to any suggestions,

  Stephan

  Dear Scott:

  Your copy of PANTONE Color Manager is seriously out of date, because this problem has been fixed for a long time.

  To correct this, you will need to register at myPANTONE if you have not already done so - it is a free registration and will allow access to the PANTONE Color Manager update installer.  If you need to register you can do it first at https://www.pantone.com/pages/MYP_myPantone/mypMemberProfile.aspx.

  So here are the steps needed to correct this problem:

  1. delete all exported PANTONE FASHION + libraries HOUSE of all Adobe applications.

  2. log into your myPANTONE account and go to tools/downloaded software.

  3. download the PANTONE Color Manager for Mac or Windows Installer as appropriate.  It is the first product on the software downloads page.

  4. run the installer of PANTONE Color Manager directly on your current installation, which will update to version 2.1.

  5. the re-export the PANTONE FASHION + HOME of PANTONE Color Manager libraries for your Adobe products.  All exported PANTONE FASHION + HOME colors will now properly appear in Adobe Illustrator.

  Please note: when you start the PANTONE Color Manager Update, you will be asked to perform a "PantoneLIVE" update on the cotton F & H PANTONE library.  This update will remove the cotton F & H PANTONE and PANTONE F & H cotton - libraries of new colors and replace them with a single cotton F & H PANTONE library with all the colors of 2,100 in chromatic arrangement.

  Best regards

  John Stanzione

  Director - technical support

  PANTONE, LLC

  E-mail: [email protected]

• By default Adobe color management print affecting RGB to pages B & w and color printing costs

  Adobe Print of default color management seems to be assigning RGB meta pages n & B and cost of printing color for prints n & B.

  I can manually change the color management for printing printer managed on a basis by printing instead of the default adobe color managed

  who "heals" issue, but I don't seem to be able to save this default setting. Has anyone seen and corrected this problem?

  If you want B & W prints, you must use a profile of color B & W. Adobe apps can do know anything about unless you tell them. Just because it seems gray does not mean it is gray on the technical level. You must read on color management. There is nothing wrong with the PS, you're simply using options and incorrect settings.

  Mylenium

• I'm trying to print using my own profile and no color management.   I have found a lead to the Adobe Color Print Utility but reached a point where he declared that she would not work with future versions of the Mac operating system.   I have Mac OS 10,11,

  I have been printing PSD images with my own profiles and color management using an Epson R2880.

  I've now changed to a Mac with OO 10.11.3 and unable to replace the color management.   I found a lead on the Adobe Color printer utility but failed and got a message saying that the utility has only worked with an earlier version of the OS 10.   Is there a way to turn this problem?

  GHK

  You don't want or need to use the old setting 'No Color Management'. Is no longer the right way to print with a custom printer profile, in the current versions of Photoshop and OS X.

  To use a custom profile to print, use the attached picture settings:

  • In the print dialog box, set the Photoshop color management menu manages colors.
  • Select your profile to the printer in the printer profile menu.
  • In the settings of printer driver Epson (under Printer Setup button) make sure that the Epson printer driver is set to the color - off management.

  

  I don't know why Adobe Color Printer Utility works in 10.11.3, because I can throw on OS X 10.10 and 10.11. But in the end, it doesn't matter, because you don't want to use it for this purpose Adobe Color Printer Utility is only to print a profiling target, no images. And it won't let you print using your custom printer profile, because the whole point of the utility is to print with no discoloration whatsoever.

• Crash Acrobat DC output Preview Adobe RGB

  Open a CMYK PDF / X file

  Print Production-> output preview

  Profile Simulation on Adobe RGB (1998)

  Result: Acrobat DC Crash

  Known problem, MacOS version of Acrobat DC with all versions of MacOS (not only 10.10), discussed in dozens of previous discussions. Difficulty in the update in a few weeks.

  -Dov

• D700 files shooting in Adobe RGB color space

  I can open my D700 files in Lightroom 4.4 only if it were shot in space color sRGB.  Lightroom does not recognize them if they were shot with the help of Adobe RGB color space.  Is there some update or connect to lightroom that will allow me to open these?  (I downloaded the last 4.4 Lightroom)

  The V1 version of Nikon Transfer is known to cause problems with new camera ships is it surprising that the versions V1, other Nikon software also has problems.

  Irrelevant, other than being a curiosity, is why Adobe RGB is causing a problem when it is not sRGB, but is not something Lightroom is different, this is something the former Nikon software differently for the raw files of the new camera models, change something in the data when the Adobe RGB color space is specified and making them unreadable to Adobe , but not changing is not the same when they are slaughtered in space sRGB color.  Without an analysis of low level file byte-by-byte you probably intend to be able to understand what the Nikon software, but at least you know what it takes to make things work.

  If you have still something that Lightroom has something to do with the origin of the problem, and then copy a sRGB NAVE and a NAVE of RGB Adobe directly from your camera to your computer and without touching either with the Nikon software and make sure that both are important in LR without problem.

  Software from the manufacturer of the device usually does not include another manufacturer raw files because is one of the tasks of the manufacturer of the device software to make the raw JPG in exactly in the same way as the camera and that rendering is exclusive and cannot be known by outside entities.  Software of Canon DPP does not work with Nikon ships, either.  Software of a third party, such as Adobe Lightroom, must be able to work with raw files from various manufacturers for anyone paying attention, but at the price which is specific to a manufacturer like you don't see focus for your ships in Lightroom, but I guess that you can in the NX software which is produced or at least licensed by Nikon.

• For the printing of P.O.D.: how to set the Adobe RGB color space

  Hello and thank you in advance,

  (I use InDesign CS 5.5 on a Mac).

  I need set the appropriate PDF export settings

  To print a book on demand, with color drawings inside on the text pages.

  The instructions in Mandarin that I could find, say this:

  'Submit your graphics in color space Adobe RGB, integrated withprofile.'

  The big Question: how should I do that?

  I know enough to start with

  File-> Adobe PDF Presets-> print quality

  Then I click on the Menu 'output '.

  and this is where I start to get lost.

  for

  Color conversion...

  I think I should choose "convert to the Destination.

  for

  Destination

  I think it should be "Adobe RGB (1998).

  Now to incorporate this profile.

  What should I choose in virtue:

  Profile Inclusion policy?

  And is there anything else I should do to get these inside good printing color images?

  Thanks again,

  IthacaAuthor (aka ZorbaTheGeek, but the forum wouldn't let me connect with my old screen name)

  Virtually all digital printing is done via PostScript or PDF. In the first case, the PDF file is converted to use viat PostScript to Acrobat and in the latter case, the PDF file is sent directly to the digital printer.

  In both cases, CMYK is actually the real destination color space. There is no true RGB printer! What is true is that non-PostScript / non PDF (laser printers generally low range and inkjet printers as well as specialized sublimation photo printers inkjet and dye) take RGB via drivers and that convert to CMYK, but I don't think that's what you deal with.

  Our recommendation to Adobe for best printing results, whether for offset or digital, is to export PDF into PDF/X-4 with no color conversion using the default color CMYK (CMYK SWOP) space or if the contrary view of your print service provider, among other CMYK color spaces provided by Adobe or the print service provider themselves. FWIW, more peripheral to digital print on demand, have settings to fully emulate the SWOP CMYK printing requirements. The use of PDF/X-4 in this way allows the existing color in your document InDesign is properly tag in the output PDF file and converted to CMYK RIP the device level digital printing.

  (It may also help us if you can provide a pointer to the explicit instructions provided by your print service provider.)

  -Dov

• Dell U2413/U2713H (or maybe Windows 8) issue of color management

  Hello guys!

  I am an excessive user of Photoshop / graphic designer and I just bought Dell U2413 to obtain, in combination with my graphics card Nvidia Quadro K2000, a true wide range/10-bit working environment of color which is very important for what I do. (Nec or Eizo was not an option because I've already spent so much money on other materials and I opted for Dell because I heard it is the best display in this price range - in my country, with taxes, it cost me 566 EUROS).

  Previously, I was working on iMac for almost a decade then separate pieces of hardware or Windows operating system was a new (and, I must admit, pretty scary) territory for me. However, after everything has been put in place, I tried to calibrate my monitor for the first time and then I was very unpleasantly surprised! Namely, I have X-Rite i1 Display colorimeter Pro and some optional software for it (ColorEyes display Pro and baslCColor display 5 was much better/appropriate for me because of their L * option for TRC so I never used it original i 1 Profiler is a software which is a LOT less than the previous two compering), but because Dell in it's manual said to use a calibration color UltraSharp Solution software is exclusively I decided to give it a go and try with it. But, to my (as I already said, very unpleasant!) surprise, I was EVEN less of i1 Profiler which, as I have said, was never an option for me.

  Not the end of the world, I thought, I'll re - calibrate it with ColorEyes Display Pro and everything goes well. But, after doing so, my unpleasant surprise become even more unpleasant, when I discovered that no matter what profile I chose in Windows Color Management and press "Set as default", nothing happens - my screen remains the same! The only way I can get a color change is if I create a profile using Windows built in utility. Profiles created in this way change the appearance of the screen, but all the profiles downloaded or created make no difference. And now I literally don't know what to do... The worst thing only of this, I can't blame WHO:

  1 Dell - that has a 'high end' view gives you ONLY a few factory presets + 2 custom profiles (Cal1 and Cal2) made by software calibration nowdays more inferior and useless;
  2. Windows 8 - who did a terrible color management which, in the same way, not a color at all management;
  3. me - who is unable to see put in place something that is more than simple & obvious?

  THANKS in ADVANCE for everyone is willing to help me solve this question and forgive me for a long (and perhaps confusing-) as you can say English is not my language kindergarten post!

  First of all if you use the eyes color pro with GBLED and i1DisplayPro and you're not invited to a sort of spectral correction for your type of backlight screen, you're hurting. No matter how visually pleasant it is, the profile is not accurate, playing WYSIWYB (what you see is what you believe) not WYSIWYG.
  Second, unless you have purchased/updated Basiccolor Display 5 after may 2013 (NEC GB LED suppor for PA242W, 5.1.2 version) with GBLED and i1DisplayPro, its measures are wrong, no matter how nice of calibration is.

  With your questions:
  You have 6 presets:
  -CAL1/CAL2, please read questions configuration on the Dell color calibration Solution in this instance. Please install the latest version 1.0.1.0 (67MB) and disable all color adjustments in yor GPU nvidia (bright colors, digital vibrance... all OFF). Most of us use in Windows 7 without problem (after a few configuration settings: spectal correction for GBLED files)
  http://en.community.Dell.com/support-forums/peripherals/f/3529/t/19512342.aspx
  http://en.community.Dell.com/support-forums/peripherals/f/3529/t/19517601.aspx
  etc.
  -Factory-sRGB/AdobeRGB which are probably with a white point off the coast of the D65, recalibrate in GPU LUT with ArgyllCMS/DisplayCal. Works very well.
  -Standard with a usually arround WP 7000 K (native GBLED WP), if calibrated in GPU LUT with ArgyllCMS/DisplayCal ' nearest the locus of the daylight "of your native WP should give about your contrast of 1000: 1. It is perhaps unnecessary to your workflow, but it is better to know it.
  -Custom, native, fully customizable range WhitePoint, blackpopint and luminance of D50 D70 and beyond.
  Work with color management applications just you Custom, CAL1 and CAL2.

  You may have a problem with Windows (from Windows Vista from) color management. By default, Windows does not allow profiles (but applications can) rewriting GPU LUT of calibration. You need to configure.
  In W8, it's done:
  -From the right panel-> Search-> color management
  -Go to the tab advanced options
  -Click on "change default settings...". ', the button down with administrator privileges.
  -Go to the tab advanced options in this new window
  -Toogle check buton (bottom) "windows use on screen calibration" (sorry I don't have an English version of Windows and I don't know the exact text)
  -Reload button calibrations (bottom)
  -Close
  -Go to the "Devices" tab and select your screen in the upper drop-down list
  -check the box "use my record for this device".
  -Select your profile

  Your screen SHOULD be the same printer Dell preset OSD in which this profile was created, without other changes in contrast or brightness.
  If enabled, please disable the "AUTO" mode in the Dell Display Manager tray icon, use the manual mode with "enhanced video" (last tab) OFF.

  BTW and I know that this is not your case, but without workflow 10bits or gamma in 3DLUT (NECs & eizos) L * gamma calibration is not necessary.

  For those who have worn with 8-bit or DA better sRGB gamma CRT and let Photoshop or GIMP color management to make corrections for images ECIv2 (or with similar profiles of gamma)