Warning in VCS and TMS (inherited from TMS Agent mode)
Hello.
I have this massage in TMS and VCS system, how this fix?
in TMS: #2057 - Configuration Warning - The VCS is running in a mode inherited from the officer of TMS; It is recommended to switch your system to use another mode.
in VCS: the VCS is running in a mode inherited from the officer of TMS; It is recommended to switch your system to use another mode
How to switch different mode?
Thank you
If you are not Provisioning - remove the key to implementation of the VCS.
In the web interface, go to the maintenance, options keys, select the configuration key and press delete.
(it might be helpful to take note of the key first, where you decide in the future that you want to install it again - but it can be retrieved otherwise if you lose, IE from the Cisco Licensing Portal).
Wayne
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Looks like you are using TMS Agent Legacy, which has been supported in VCS X7.2 and has since been removed from X8.1. You will need to migrate to TMSPE and very probably upgrade your server TMS as well if you do not meet the minimum version.
Cisco TMSPE 1.0 Deployment Guide
Here's the guide deployment for TMSPE 1.0, there are newer versions, but 1.0 is one that you want to migrate from legacy Agent TMS. Once installed and migrate your data, you can then go to the most recent version, which is 1.4 (see below).
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We need to get a new license when upgraded version of VCS, VCSe and TMS?
Hi Kelvin,
xxx. OVA files are package files to deploy the VCS on virtualize platforms.
Release key are required to upgrade the VCS for major updates. for p. ex. upgrade of x 6 x 7 software version worm.
However for improvements minor as x7.2 to x7.2.2 these are the released hotfix version or bux fixes release and you don't need a license for this upgrade.
in any case if you your devices are less covered by valid contract you can get the license key anytime just contact cisco license team on "[email protected] / * /" and they should be able to provide the necessary license.
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Meetings 1-booking
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CTS-MAN
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Just trying to figure the best way to approach this.
I have read the documentation and the best approach seems to get to the VCS VCS-E to Active Directory and the synchronization of the TMS with AD for user account creation. This would avoid the need to records movi proxy for control of VCS and would ensure that all (SIP and H323) registration for the VCS-E would be authenticated.
I don't think that my client will allow the VCS-E talk to AD.
So, what are my options?
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The local on VCS and VCS-E database can be used for authentication Movi/SIP and H323 records? I know that I would have to duplicate accounts and passwords on both.
What books commissioning and address through registration to the VCS-E? Would it still work?
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I highly doubt that your client will allow you to leave the talk VCSE in AD. For movi/jabber users, you can create another subfield and use a regex pattern for point movi/jabber users to authenticate it as. * (\.movi)@domain.com. In addition, you can refer to this fragment and others have used in the past.
In a secure design, the VCS (control and Highway) would require identification for registration information.
The Control of VCS would have Active Directory Service active and joins the Active Directory domain. For VCS authenticate the credentials of Movi/Jabber on Active Directory before the SUBSCRIPTION for the supply is sent to the service of commissioning, the default Zone would be set to verify the credentials. For requests for SUBSCRIPTION from the highway, the area on the VCS control would also to verify the credentials. It handles authentication for the provision.
The next part is the record of the Movi/Jabber client. The subzone to which the customer will register must also be set to verify the credentials. Here's everything you need for internal records (registration to the VCS control).
For the Highway, things get a little more complicated. For commissioning subscription, the SUBSCRIPTION is forwarded to the VCS control. With the area on the VCS game to check the credentials, you're all set. Now on registration to the highway. The subzone to which the customer will register to must be defined to check credentials. From the motorway VCS don't have direct access to Active Directory, we use local credentials on the highway. A set of credentials should be configured in VCS Configuration > authentication > devices > local database. You will create a single name and password all Movi/Jabber clients will use. The end user has NO need to know these credentials. The username and password is provided to the Movi/Jabber client via configuration data it has received. To set up these data, MSDS, you must configure a SIP of authentication user name and password for SIP authentication in the configuration of the commissioning. For these options to be available, you must ensure that you have downloaded the configuration template xml for the Movi/Jabber version you are using. The xml file is included in the zip package full of the client which can be downloaded on www.cisco.com. So, who will be recording from the highway. Now, this creates an interesting situation with VCS control. The internal Movi/Jabber client will receive the same provisioning configuration and will attempt to use those same credentials when you register for the control of VCS. The VCS control is already set to authenticate against Active Directory and Active Directory ONLY registration.
You will need to create an account in Active Directory corresponding to these credentials. The Active Directory account didn't need special access. It is used only for authentication purposes. A few things to keep in mind: SIP authentication user name and password for SIP authentication are stored in clear text configuration configuration. This means that the data is sent in clear text. To be sure that these data are not compromised on the wire, do not forget that you are using for your communication SIP Movi/Jabber TLS.
With this directories will always work as jabber should be authenticated in order to receive directories. Your physical endpoint points will work differently with how they receive books and whether or not they are able to communicate with MSDS (unless you choose to configure endpoints also if those you are capable).
It is in no way the design as safe as possible. It is to you to ensure that your environment is as secure as possible and therefore tested. The best way to fix everything is a well-defined appeal policy designed with your specific needs.
The foregoing is in no way a recommendation but just a little more information to chew while looking to choose and implement what is best for you.
Adam
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Hello
We have VCSe, VCSC and TMS work with commissioning on the VCSC through TMS.
VCS, Version 6.1, 13.1 TMS
Movi (4.3) external Clients have registration with the VCSC. VCSe does proxy registration.
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Everything works fine.
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There are several deployments to do, but for me, some of them are not so sure than others.
I need a top secure deployment.
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I understand perfectly what you want, but I do not understand why. When you set a directory of provisioning in TMS to be integrated with AD, users are imported automatically according to the 'search string', that you are configuring. But passwords are not imported from AD, basic information only from users are imported. When any user try to connect, TMS challenge for authentication in real time.
For me it is not a problem, because the MSDS do not save passwords in its own database. Is this a problem for you? Why?
If you try to do it only because you want to limit which users are allowed to use the customer Movi, if your problem is the following, so you can solve it by using a 'search filter' in the configuration directory configuration, so that you afin que vous serez will be able to import only users who belong to a specific group, for example.
Please, explain to me why you want to do.
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Hello
I've also seen a topic on current versions of beta XC2.2 conductor and TMS 14.3, so I'll post my question here.
I use the conductor with VCS, CUCM, MCU 4505 and TS. I am able to create ad hoc via CUCM and VCS and regular calls through TMS conferences.
If I create a conference with automatic connect and the conductor in the call I can see that the MCU or TS tries to achieve a participant, but not with the URI. To use my email address (findme ID) to call me, but instead, it uses strange URI identifiers: [email protected]/ * /: 5073
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13307 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [Videokonferenz 101], numerische Favorites auf ID '88800010 '.
13308 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [Videokonferenz 101], pine Favorites auf "114".
13309 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [Videokonferenz 101], Gast-PIN options auf "114".
13310 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [101 Videokonferenz], busy 'public '.
13311 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [Videokonferenz 101] content mode set to 'convert '.
13312 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [Videokonferenz 101] Stummschaltung EIB participation [Audio = deaktiviert]
13313 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [Videokonferenz 101] Stummschaltung EIB participation [video = deaktiviert]
13314 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [101 Videokonferenz], Layoutsteuerung uber FECC/DTMF "use FECC and relief to DTMF".
13315 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [Videokonferenz 101], maximum Dauer Favorites auf 'permanent '.
13316 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [Videokonferenz 101], Ende Favorites auf "kein Enddatum.
13317 13:38:05 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info conferences: Conference [Videokonferenz 101] auto remove time limit set to "600 seconds".
13318 13:38:06 admin API /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 API-Endpunkt-Einstellungen Info: Endpunkt [e922d880ee1854c242ba94e69b113af: [email protected]/ * /: 5073] via API zu Conference "Videokonferenz 101" added
13319 13:38:06 admin API /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38141 Info API-Endpunkt-Einstellungen: Endpunkt [3805: [email protected]/ * /: 5073] via API Conference "Videokonferenz 101" added zu
13320 13:38:36 API admin /HTTP/TCP/1.1.1.1:38149 Info API-Endpunkt-Einstellungen: Endpunkt [3806: [email protected]/ * /: 5073] via API zu Conference "Videokonferenz 101" added
Unfortunatetly newspapers are in German, but I think you can see that there are a few strange added URI.
If I create a conference without a conductor the log shows the URI:
13386 14:07:14 /HTTP/TCP/172.21.10.12:52001 Info API-Endpunkt-Einstellungen admin API: Endpunkt [Paul Woelfel: [email protected] / * /] via API zu Conference ' 1234 - Videokonferenz 07/08/2013 "added.
1.1.1.1 is the IP of the conductor (of course not the real IP ;-))
Someone at - test the latest versions as expirenced this question?
Hi Paul,.
You use the conductor and VCS B2BUA deployment? If so, this behavior is correct. MCU must not call endpoint directly, MCU must compose a unique URI of the driver, something like [email protected]/ * /, so Condcutor will take this URI and route the call to VCS replacing this strange URI of the right destination SIP URI according to what you have planned.
But to make it work, MCU must not be registered for VCS, MCU should only be integrated with driver, without registration, SIP and H323 for VCS.
Can you confirm what type of deployment you have? What integration between your MCU and conductor?
Concerning
Paulo Souza
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Cisco TAC after webex session ask me follow up with Microsoft!
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Java has been updated recently? TMSPE 1.4 requires Java 7 update 51, I know that's not far from the version you use, but it is worth it to try the version that offers the deployment guide.
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