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• Color Gamut RGB or CMYK

  So I had this problem with Photoshop since I started using it on my Windows machine. On my Mac. I could put something in any color, and it seems to me like that on the screen in RGB mode. However, when I try and do it with the same exact color on my Windows machine, it appears black. I do not have the range of warnings on either. However, when I opt for the CMYK mode, the color appears. The problem with this is that I use photoshop for the GUI and such, not print material so if I show in CMYK Mode, it give me a vague look what the colors will look like.

  Could someone help me please!

  You have an AMD GPU?

  Have you tried turning off the GPU in Photoshop preferences? If it works, you probably touch a driver bug in some of their recent drivers.  The good news is that the drivers 13.2 beta fix the bug.

• Questions about a range wide screen color

  I have a range wide screen, and I experienced issues in color between color, management applications, and those who do not have color (like IE, or even the OS Win itself - displaying icons etc.).
  I calibrated the epic screen with Spyder and applications that manage the color work fine, but when I view the same images in Internet Explorer or windows default viewer, I get oversaturated colors.
  I discovered that this is because the default system uses sRGB as the color profile, so when an Adobe RGB profile equivalent is sent to the value default sRGB - system based, it "compresses" the colors with the result the supersaturation.

  I found a frame that I think should be the case (see the screenshot attached), but it makes no difference when going to "wide gamut RGB", nor the monitor profile (which is also wide gamut).

  Could you please tell if there is a way to set up in Windows 7 if the colors are displayed correctly in the managed without color applications?

  Under color management, the device profile has the default value of the system (sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1)

  Hi Helen,

  Different types of devices have different color characteristics and capabilities. For example, your monitor may display the same color scheme that can reproduce a printer. This is because each device uses a different process to produce color content. Scanners and digital cameras have different color characteristics. Even different programs sometimes interpret and process colors differently. Without a consistent color management system, the same image can look different on each of these devices.

  I suggest you try the steps from the following link and see if that helps.

  Change color management settings
  http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows7/change-color-management-settings

  Post us the results after trying the steps above.

• Great white - proc amp - cutting - YUV-RGB

  I investigated the issue of the break with YUV to RGB (from DV) conversions and found as Stu Maschwitz stressed DV rebel, there are two ways to record video of the upper YUV dynamic range without clipping when converting to RGB for editing and effects. The function of Prime Minister Proc amp works in YUV and for this, like interpret images color management tab in AE.

  HOWEVER. It seems that something can broke the proc amps effects in CS5 as it seems more save the values of super black and super white. There may be now another method recommended to save the superior dynamic range that will capture some cameras DV and HDV in YUV?

  Also, it is no longer a "maximum depth" parameter in the project settings, then maybe that's where things broke, as in earlier versions of the Prime Minister that adjustment was necessary to proc amp works correctly.

  I took some DV footage that highlights a 110% signal and tried to adapt it in CS5 proc amp and it was cut. The same images was recoverable in AE CS5 with the interpret footage "wide Gamut RGB" color management tab. This sequence is also recoverable with proc amp in CS3 and CS4 first.

  Any suggestions?

  David

  Bit depth of Max is a sequence, is no longer a project setting, so make sure you are looking in the right place.  In this set of values-of-quality is preserved with effects supported as indicated by icons in the effect controls panel. Also note that the GPU acceleration enabled, all rendered on the GPU will always be at the maximum depth. The icons in the Control Panel indicates the effect of software, not the effect of the GPU capabilities, so for example crop the effects will make 32-bit when on the GPU even if it will never make it on the CPU.

• Best way to configure Photoshop workflow settings when source photos are taken in AdobeRGB, edited from a wide and output range in sRGB?

  Be able to quickly produce finished photographs is of importance with the majority of my photography work. That's why I pull, process and deliver JPEGs. There is no advantage to my clients to my shooting RAW for this time sensitive workflows. I won't be able to accommodate any possible future uses of the photos, so I shoot using the Adobe RGB color space. The output of my clients are JPEG images for use on the Web, so of sRGB. Currently, I used a screen wide gamut (NEC PA302W) with a 24-bit graphics card. (I plan on upgrading to a 30-bit card in the future).

  I noticed that in Internet Explorer, the reds in my finished photos are too intense on my screen. My photos look good in other web browsers on my screen. This situation worries me because I don't know exactly why it's happening since my pictures have embedded sRBG color profile and IE supports embedded color profiles. If anything, I think that the reds would be too intense in other applications that do not support embedded color profiles.

  Please let me know if my work flow can be improved outside shooting RAW and use a 30-bit screen:

  1. Take JPEG pictures in Adobe RGB color space
  2. Edit photos in Photoshop using range wide screen, 24-bit
  3. Color settings: colors of the monitor (Monitor RGB - PA302W, calibrated)
  4. Save for Web, convert to JPEG, incorporate the sRGB color profile

  When you work in Photoshop the reds appear very well. When registering for the Web and previewing "Color Monitor" the reds are intense, when previewing 'Internet Standard RGB (No. Color Management)' the reds appear very well. The final appearance of fine recorded images with the exception of when displayed in Internet Explorer, which supports embedded color profiles - color management.

  Shooting JPEG can certainly be beneficial for the size and speed, although with improvements in conversion raw in a few years it becomes harder to justify.  But if you expose just conversions in camera can be very beautiful.  The camera manufacturers do a decent job in their chips.

  Your sounds of workflow practices, but one thing you know may not be not is IE use NOT your monitor profile, so what you see in Internet Explorer is incorrect to 100% of the time.  He only reads the profile of your image.

  In other words, Internet Explorer is not properly managed by color, unless you have a monitor set to display accurately in the profile sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1.  Microsoft seems to have no intention to fix it either, which is a shame.

  I suggest to view your images in Firefox or Safari, who read your color monitor profile as well as the profile of the image.  Firefox can even be configured to display the elements of the web page in a mode of color management.

  -Christmas

• How to display correct sRGB images in applications unmanaged Vista with a wide range of display?

  Hi all

  This isn't a simple question, and I don't expect the answers to be simple either.

  1. I have vista home premium
  2. I have a wide range of LCD, a screen with a significantly wider than the sRGB color profile (sometimes incorrectly called a display Adobe RGB)
  3. I have it calibrated with a Spyder3Elite
  4. Images look GREAT in color managed applications (including the windows photo gallery)
  5. Photos have air saturated outside color management applications, even if they are sRGB images.

  Here's what I need.  If an application is not color management then Vista should apply the sRGB profile AND map it on my monitor profile.

  What is happening now is the image is mapped directly to the color space of the monitor and let the oversaturated colors. The end result is that all images within windows and Internet Explorer are saturated. The only solution for navigation is to use a plugin to make the management of the colours of firefox or use safari.

  BTW. Even if windows photo gallery is the color of the slide show management is not argghhh.

  I have looked at the Advanced tab on the Vista color management, but did not find ANY documentation on the 'device profile' or 'View profile status' settings. They seem to be associated with what I need, but there is nothing in the help about it. What do mean? second question, sorry)

  Concerning
  JzE

  PS. I checked the color management using the 4 images at http://www.color.org/version4html.xalter. I have saved their drive and use them as a reference to quickly check if an application is successful or not color.

  I received this reply from Michael Bourgoin. Thank you, Michael, we now have at least one answer...

  Hi J___,.

  I wish I could give you some good news, but the fact is that most of the components of windows and the Windows desktop are always not color management. The Windows Photo Gallery and Windows Live Photo Gallery are the only elements of the Windows color reach the display profile. Most office applications will honor profiles embedded in images, source but then they convert to sRGB and throw it on the screen. And IE is not even honor profiles embedded in images...

  That you have determined, the settings in the color management control panel affect only the applications of color management. The settings in the tab Cpl Advanced CM are used to provide default values for the missing profiles needed for the creation of color transformation for WCS in color management applications. Again not to help.

  Regarding the application non-management of color management color "behind their backs" goes, it's very difficult to do in general. There is no easy way for the OS to tell if the color data that renders an application has already been color managed, or not.

  We have a technology called high color which will be in Windows 7 that aims to solve this problem. Color high-definition given color are first converted into a color space extended which uses the sRGB primaries, but which allows the values less than 0.0 and 1.0 above (let's call it sRGB-XR). Colourful is closely related to xvYCC and X.v.color of Sony. Range wide color data can be converted in this space with no loss. Displays (and maps) that support colourful are necessary to convert this space sRGB-XR internally to their native color space. With color high definition, the United Nations - RGB color management is treated as sRGB, which is unchanged when converted to sRGB-XR space (it's all in the [0.1] part of the encoding). But then peripheral compatible High Color will map correctly that in their native space, so the sRGB data never get oversaturated in being treated as if she was already in wide range native of screen space (as happens now). And any image content real wide range gets correctly mapped to take advantage of the wide range of the screen. The plumbing for High Color is under Windows 7. However, the Desktop Window Manager could not implement a high color support in time (this requires the use of a fixed or floating point rendering surface), if the Bureau will not use color high definition, however, in Win7. Maybe the next time.

  I would like to be able to give more excuses, explanations and communities.

  Best regards

  Michael Bourgoin
  Program Manager | Experience Windows & Imaging Team color
  Microsoft Corporation

• Adobe RGB 1998 Workspace vs Image with embedded sRGB profile

  I worked through countless published on the Web about various aspects of the profile settings of colors from all different angles. Obviously a difficult topic depending on how much you must understand.  For now, I have a question of several party who I would appreciate any feedback on of those in the know.  I'll try to summarize it briefly - it is simply in the default RGB color space setting in CS6 against opening an image that has a different embedded color profile.

  Question

  (1) is it interesting 'potential' to work in color space Adobe RGB 1998 if I open an image with an embedded sRGB profile and "preserve embedded profile?  I realize that any potential benefit could depend on the range of colors in the image itself - that is, where an image with color dull or limited range could not affected by any color profile or workspace is applicable.

  (2) if my color default RGB in CS6 space is Adobe RGB 1998 and I open an image with an embedded sRGB profile, can I convert to Adobe RGB to take advantage of the widest range when working with the image.

  (3) if I don't need to convert an Adobe RGB sRGB image to enjoy the widest range when changes but must register the image with an sRGB profile for purposes of production (out of print or Web presentation service):

  3.1 should I make a copy of the image final and Convert to sRGB or I can just save as Jpeg and select sRGB for the profile to be integrated?

  3.2 irrespective of how I save the final image with an sRGB profile, I would lose some advantage I might have seen while working in the Adobe RGB workspace?

  I am not questioning if there is a good reason to work in sRGB vs. Adobe RGB (or ProPhoto) or under what circumstances it can matter - just trying to figure out a couple of mechanics I would work in Adobe RGB, but have a lot of things (slide previous scans etc.) than sRGB or some other built-in profile.

  Also not to query the best camera settings as I am completely convinced the only way to go is to capture in RAW if the goal is a flexibility to work with the picture (I'm still shooting Fujifilm Provia 100F in my Nikon F6 but eventually will go with a good FX digital SLR when I can rotate - point being that all of the images that I work with is roughly slides scanned on my Nikon Super) COOLSCAN 5000 ED Scanner).

  I understand that it is a topical subject (sRGB vs RGB etc.) and not trying to stimulate a wide debate on the issues.

  Thanks for any thoughts you may have on this topic.

  Jerry Keenehan

  p.s. Here is a comparison of an image of the test case of 14 CS6 Adobe class-in-a-book.  "Rev00" on the left is the original image to sRGB included with the tutorial; "Rev01' on the right is the picture where I have first of all"affected"the Adobe RGB profile, and then (through ignorance, maybe, converted - profile Adobe RGB). I did that because I noticed that I simply convert RGB perceptual colors remain the same, so that if I have 'assign' RGB profile, I certainly get a slight pop at this image - may not be noticeable in this screenshot, but I can definitely see an improvement that I love watching them side by side on my Apple LED Cinema display 27 ".

  

  That is right. If the file has embedded sRGB, Adobe RGB workspace is unnecessary and irrelevant. He never comes into play.

  You can, however, convert the file in Adobe RGB if you plan to make a big change on that, and you think you might need the extra margin of a larger color space.

  If you assign a profile (for an untagged document), there is not need to convert to the same.

• Ultra Wide Color Gamut of the F55

  All,

  The Ultra Wide Gamut of color of the F55, compressed JPEG references below

  Systems of courtesy GRS, NYC

  Concerning

  Peter

  

  

  where S Gamut is on version 4.0? one of the few differences from left to f5?

• Publication of a pdf document, Adobe RGB-v-sRGB is a problem?

  Hi people,

  I use InDesign CS5 to produce a Yearbook photo to our photo club. The printer asked me to provide the subject done in PDF format.

  I need to know, what the properties of color (Adobe RGB / sRGB) of an original image have an impact on the final result?

  I ask because the images will be provided from a variety of sources and will probably in all kinds of formats/color, spaces etc..

  If I need to convert all to one or the other, what I need to do this as a batch process in Photoshop or is possible in InDesign?

  I know my way around image editors, but this edition is all new to me. Any advice greatly received.

  See you soon,.

  Eugene.

  Ask the printer what PDF preset, he would like to be able to use in InDesign.

  There are several print streams: some printers have no difficulty with a PDF file with RGB images with embedded profiles. They tend to have more recent material. Commercial printers may be useful to use the preset PDF/X-4, which would preserve RGB profiles in your project. In general, which would produce the best result. (For example, a lot of progressive printers use Adobe PDF engine rocks for which this is true).

  Other commercial printers have older CPUs of PostScript. They want to convert RGB to CMYK and flatten transparency. He may ask you to use the PDF/X-1 profile. That will do the conversion for you and throw the RGB profiles.

  Best answer: get more information from the printer.

• I have a lot of trouble recently with colors of the range. My software is updated, my system is calibrated with Datacolor, as in many years with her, but now I norticed much more than before out-of-gamut color images when checking this. Do not print.

  I have a lot of trouble recently with the release of the color range in Photoshop CC. The software is updated. I used to the Datacolor years to calibrate the system, and it worked well always. But now I noticed that I have a lot more images with out-of-gamut colors, and it prints wrong. Is this a problem with Adobe? The rest of my equipment is the same. Any help? I'd appreciate comments. Thank you, Emilio.

  First, the range warning applies to the proof profile that you put in place, under test format. If this is not the profile that you want to print with, there is no relevance.

  Second, range warning is a very large and imprecise indication, and I would just turn off. It shows what is out of range, but not how much. There are better ways, like proofing (even once, test format, toggle with ctrl + Y).

  You can also convert a copy of the file to print your profile and look at the histogram. If you have severe cuts, you can adjust the file accordingly.

  Third, there are people who feel the effect of threshold is best handled by the profile. In other words, doing nothing, just convert and done. I'm not one of them, just thought I would mention it.

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  Just to put us all on the same page, here are the basics:

  There are three different color profiles here. The document profile, the profile of the monitor and the printer/paper/ink profile. If all of these profiles are good, the results will be consistent and predictable.

  So to start with the document profile. These are important parameters in the PS color settings dialog box:

  

  It can't be Adobe RGB, but there must be a standard color space (sRGB, Adobe RGB or ProPhoto).

  Then the monitor profile. The Spyder software everything for you, and Photoshop uses this profile to display the file. You don't need to do anything once the software ran - it is all set up automatically.

  You can check in Windows color management has the right profile is configured by default:

  

  Thirdly, the profile of the printer. It's one that refers to the book as "Xxx of Epson Premium glossy", or all that apply. You choose this profile in the dialog box print in Photoshop, and then you go in the printer driver ("settings") and ensure that color management is turned off it. You don't want a double color management.

  If it withdraws, and it still does not seem good, get back with more details.

  Oh, by the way - have you got your NEC monitor with Spectraview calibration software included? If you did, it is greatly preferable to the Spyder software for reasons more than I have space to list here. You can still use the Spyder probe, at least if it's generation 3, 4 or 5. Earlier versions are notoriously few reliable and also not designed for wide gamut displays.

• Photoshop, limited to sRGB

  Hello everyone, I m stuck with calibrate my Dell U2711(wide gamut) on Windows7, CS6.

  So far I used it with the integrated Adobe RGB preset and a standard profile. After a calibration with i1displayPro (predefined custom monitor change slightly to reach D65 whitepoint) I got a solid ICC2 profile that seems to occupy all the space Adobe RGB pretty well (against them in 3D).

  The point where I m helpless and can´t advance is the rendering of colors in PS and ACR, colors are limited to an sRGB as the saturation level. I ve value my Creative Suite color ARGB, disabled settings receives in PS.

  Here's this red (255,0,0) looks like:
  left: OFF Proofing

  Middle: evidence of sRGB

  right: monitor the evidence

  

  The range in the Red corner is a little wider in your profile measured against Adobe RGB 1998.

  

  And Yes, your AdoberGB1998.icc is fine; It is identical to the one I have.

  I think eartho is right; Red more saturated in Adobe RGB is not as red as your monitor can display.  So the image you expect to fully saturate the monitor just cannot get all the way there.

  -Christmas

• I need color is out of Gamut in my files have...

  Hey,.

  I work for a company that uses #EF6C00 as their primary color. We use it in print and web... whenever I go into the color picker and use this specific value, a warning appears telling me that it is out of gamut. Color changes are small but still noticeable. They usually change to one of 3 different oranges. I don't think that the company has had this problem before so I think that my document set up is defective? I have the color of the document to CMYK mode because I'm working on a print ad. Don't know what else I can do to help solve this problem. Any help is appreciated!

  Thank you.

  It is not that you're doing something wrong. It depends on what profiles you work with. You can find the color you want in CMYK mode and use these values if you are systematically managing the conversion of your HEX value. Which currently shows off standard gamut SWOP CMYK, but it may not for the printer/output target that you are handling.

  At the point of Monika. If you can find what your print provider works with you can set your color to their output target profiles and make sure that you are, or not, in the range for the target output device.

  It is especially on the understanding that the measure is based on the source/target profile. So here's a screenshot of your value in three separate documents. But the source range is ProPhoto RGB, sRGB and Adobe RGB. You can see the change of the off values of the range (the cloud) and note also that vary the CMYK values for this spell. This is because what you convert source being another range/space for RGB definition. So out of the gamut is only compared to the RGB space is the measure of.

  

  Yes, under Edit > parameters of color in Illustrator, you can see what jobs you measure with and work with. This will show you what RGB space, it uses to set the value of your color and CMYK engine (or other) that he uses to show how far out of gamut, it is, because CMYK is a smaller than RGB gamut. See below, mine is sRGB and SWOP v2.

  

  In your case, you have a HEXADECIMAL value. But it's always RGB/CMYK. If it was me, I would find none of the other projects you have made and which were considered 'success' for the output color, open the file and find out what the CMYK equivalent and which target for your release in the future. Any project output CMYK uses this value and any output RGB (on screen) use your hex value. This will ensure better consistency in these two types of separate output for projects.

  If they are supposed to be using a value of as a book of Pantone spot color, then you can use that as an aspect of the target to discuss with your printer.

  You can synchronize all your applications through Adobe Bridge to make changes of the uniformity of the profile.
  Creative Suite * keeping colors consistent

  Hope that helps,

  lifebypixels

• UP2516D Adobe RGB Preset

  Hi, I have a new UP2516D and I wanted to set to Adobe RGB. From what I can find online, you go to the color presets and select Adobe RGB - but there are no Adobe in my color presets.

  I only have Standard, multimedia, film, game, paper, color temperature, color and custom color space. Is there another way?

  * Press the Menu key
  * Go to the color
  * Go to the Modes preset to see =
  Standard, multimedia, film, game, paper, Color Temp, color space, custom color
  Open the color space to see =
  Adobe RGB, sRGB, Rec 709, DCI - P3, CAL1, CAL2

• Develop Module and the wide range of monitors

  Is the develop module drive different display of the other modules (library, Print, etc.)?

  I ask because I see different, richer and more saturated colors to develop, and a Google search turns up any complaints about this problem, which dates back to 2007.

  I have a Dell UP2516D monitor calibrated with an i1DisplayPro software and i1Profiler XRite.  This monitor is capable of 99% AdobeRGB.

  Having read the other threads on this topic, I checked the following:

  • The monitor is correctly calibrated
  • I have disabled the option of processor use chart
  • The ICC profile is version 2, not version 4

  It's worrying because during the export, the JPEG format resulting looks desaturated images, I see in the library, not the end result of my editing module in the develop module.  Here is a pair of screenshots.  In both cases, the small window is the exported image (JPEG) displayed in the Windows Photo Viewer. The largest window is a partial screenshot of Lightroom.  The screenshot was made by opening the JPEG and then exported by moving the Windows Photo Viewer on the top of the window of Lightroom.

  The first image shows the difference between JPEG format and what is seen in developing

  

  The second image shows the fact that the exported JPEG resembles what we see in the library view.

  

  The develop module is fundamentally different in how it sends image data to the screen?  Might it interact with the features of a Monitor wide gamut of cause this problem?

  Even if the answer is Yes, it does not explain why the effect is present even in the screenshots.  Take a screen capture, encode in PNG and then display in the Viewer Windows photo or other non-Lightroom software should eliminate special effects due to LR. The difference is always present in the screenshots, even when displayed on screens less capable, so there must be a problem of mismatch of actual color here.

  Yes, there is a difference, read here: in Lightroom color management

  I don't know, is the windows photo viewer color managed?

  If you are using a large monitor range, you can display the correct colors with an application that is color management. Otherwise, you will still see a shift/colorshift.

• Color management - OK to set monitor color sRGB profile?

  Is there any problem if I set my monitor color profile for sRGB and Photoshop recognizes this and I use ProPhoto RGB as my workspace in Photoshop?

  Background:

  I got a general problem with color management where my pictures looked darkest in Photoshop then my Windows Photo Viewer by default or in Adobe Bridge.

  I did some research and finally fseemed to solve the problem, but I'm not sure on any of my settings.

  I use Windows XP, and the first great help came through a panel of color that you can download from Microsoft.

  Here is the link: http://www.microsoft.com/prophoto/downloads/colorcontrol.aspx

  This utillity adds a panel color settings that you can access through the control panel. It's main characteristics are that it allows you to assign color profiles to devices, such as your monitor or printer.

  I'm using Photoshop CS4.  If you open the color settings dialogue box and look under the section workspaces, you can choose your workspace for RGB in the drop-down list. From my research, and since I'm editing photos, I concluded that choose Adobe RGB or ProPhoto RGB is a good choice.

  Also on this drop-down list, there is a choice called Monitor RGB. From my research, the opinion is that you should not set that as your RGB working space. However, a tip I've met is that if you look at the Monitor RGB choice it will tell what Photoshop is grateful as color of your monitor profile. For example, it will say 'Monitor RGB - Dell 217'

  Now, after the installation of the utility of color of Windows I am now able to define the color for my monitor profile. What I put is then recognized by Photoshop if I see it on this list.

  Specifically, in my utility of color I set my monitor to use the sRGB color space. Now when I go into Photoshop and color Setings and go dialog where you set the RGB workspace, I click the menu drop down and the list will be "Monitor RGB - sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1.»

  Note: I did not choose this as my RGB color space, I will just here to check what Photoshop is to see with regard to my color space of the monitor. I put it to my RGB color space to ProPhoto RGB.

  My monitor is a monitor de LCD Samsung 172 T.  Regarding the calibration of the monitor, I don't have access to a colorimeter device. From my research, I have found that by using the calibrator of software called Adobe Gamma is not designed to calibrate or profile LCD monitors.

  What I did: I use a graphics card based on nVidia with a control panel. The Control Panel has a display optimization tool. I used.

  Once again, my question-

  In the utility of windows color, I put my monitor color profile to sRGB. Was it the right choice?

  I have set to another profile that I have available called "Samsung 172 T."  But I do not know from which it came. Not sure if it was generated using Adobe Gamma a few years back, or the manufacturer.

  When I went to that profile my screen gets darker. Note: when I turn on in the Windows color configuration utility, then go in Photoshop, I can see in the color settings dialog box it now says "Monitor RGB - Samsung 172 T.

  I know that if I had a calibrator type colorimeter I would be able to generate an accurate profile for my monitor. In this case, you would set your monitor to this profile, rather than sRGB?

  Tom,

  Unless you have a crap monitor which is incapable of contoured with precision, never set your monitor profile to an independent color space of the device as sRGB.

  Calibrate your monitor with precision, regularly and often and use the monitor resulting as your dependent monitor of the device profile.