Arial fonts in PDFs former problems!  {Inside photos}

Hi all.

This is the problem as much as I can explain it!

I have pdf files that were created on a Mac origanally (I use Win 7) using the Arial Narrow font family.  I read all of the posted questions

the policy of Arial Narrow problems, but none solved the problem.  Here are the screenshots of what, in my view, could be the cause.

When I look at the properties in Acrobat for the PDF in question, here's what fonts appear.

props.jpg

The only font that correctly displays is true font type Arial Black.  Type1 ArialNarrow views

as shown in the image below. Another thing to note: notice how ArialNarrow is one word?

Is this perhaps why Illustrator is having a problem with it?  I tried to find it with no luck.

When opened in Illustrator CS2, it is what is displayed.

127.jpg

The fonts are in my repertoire of fonts in Windows and Illustrator.  I even loaded the old 2.35

a version which is mentioned on the net.

The problem is that I have hunderds these documents some with more than 200 pages each.  I messed up

with this for several days now and I am at a loss of what to do next.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Mark

Substitution of fonts in Illustrator by using Type > find font is not going to work.

If you look at the screenshots, you will see that the fonts are CID fonts with custom coding. The fonts on the computer of brands have probably ANSI encoding (for example standard Western character set) and character cards will not match. So you will not get text legible but just squares or other things (diamonds, points etc.)

Mark sent me a file to look at and here's what I wrote in direct e-mail to him.

The problem is that the PDF was made directly from InDesign, which converts the fonts fonts CID (normally used for Asian fonts such as Chinese, Japanese and Korean) and, in so doing, he created a table of characters (encoding) that is not compatible with our ordinary fonts that use the character of Western (ANSI) encoding. Which explains why the replacement police incorporated by one on your system does not work.

There is some info on the Adobe website at the following links:
http://kb2.Adobe.com/CPS/329/329611.html
http://InDesignSecrets.com/CID-identity-h-fonts-are-back.php
http://forums.Adobe.com/thread/324995

Also, the problem of the CID character exists in Acrobat 7 and 8, but got solved in Acrobat 9.

The only thing that has worked to get a PDF with readable and editable text was to use an OCR program (Abby FineReader in my case, but Omnipage can do the same thing) to process the PDF and embedded fonts are basically OCR'ed use system fonts and then resave PDFs had basically the same effect that replace the embedded fonts to system fonts. After that opening the PDF file in Illustrator has normal text and the file can be changed. Although Serif DrawPlus does a better job by opening the PDF file in editable format.

In this case, the road of the OCR is an option because the PDF contained a table. If this had been a drawing that the OCR option can be less useful depending on how the OCR software manage the drawing part, unless you get the text on the PDF and reinsert it into the drawing would be sufficient.

The above information may be of some use to those who are faced with the same problem.

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