Connect by - no start Query

Is it possible to get the hierarchy correctly in "connect by" without using 'Start with' request?

CP says:
I use "Connect By" query in a Join Condition.

SELECT employee_id
FROM employee e, dept d
WHERE e.dept_id = d.dept_id
AND e.employee_id = 100
START WITH manager_id IS NULL
CONNECT BY PRIOR employee_id = manager_id;

Director ID may or may not be there. If the Manager id is NOT NULL, then this query fails. So need to connect by query without a Clause to start.

You seem a little confused on the hierarchical queries.
Let me put it this way: hierarchical queries are return of rows in a table, climbing from root to branches (or sheets if you prefer) or descendant of a branch (or sheets) to a root.

When you start, you have to say when you start from. This can be any value to your table.
I'll use the employees of HR schema provided with Oracle standard table here below.

Suppose you want to select the top-down hierarchy (or roots-sheets if you prefer) from employees_id = 108.
In this case, you can do like this:

 SELECT employee_id, manager_id
   FROM employees e
  START WITH employee_id=108
CONNECT BY PRIOR employee_id = manager_id;

EMPLOYEE_ID MANAGER_ID
----------- ----------
        108        101
        109        108
        110        108
        111        108
        112        108
        113        108

Now you see that number 108 is also a Manager. If I change my request and I say I want to start with manager_id = 108, I'll start with the records having manager_id = 108. This is why employee_id = 108 will be excluded:

 SELECT employee_id, manager_id
   FROM employees e
  START WITH manager_id=108
CONNECT BY PRIOR employee_id = manager_id;

EMPLOYEE_ID MANAGER_ID
----------- ----------
        109        108
        110        108
        111        108
        112        108
        113        108

If you do not specify a START WITH clause, for each record in the table the top-down hierarchical query will be executed.

 SELECT employee_id, manager_id
   FROM employees e
--  START WITH employee_id=100
CONNECT BY PRIOR employee_id = manager_id
order by employee_id;
EMPLOYEE_ID MANAGER_ID
----------- ----------
        100
        101        100
        101        100
        102        100
        102        100
....
        206        205
        206        205
        206        205
        206        205

315 rows selected.

I hope it's clear. If this isn't the case, please post more details about your question.

Kind regards.
Al

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