Creation date '1969' issue.

Hello-

I just posted a question in another thread, so I apologize for flooding the forums.

I just came across a really strange problem in my archives. It seems that almost all my scans old film who live within Lightroom have had their year 'creation date' changed in 1969.

Just to give you some information on my machine:

I run a 2008 Macbook Pro 5.1 wit 8 GB of ram, 128 GB SSD for my boot drive and a 256GB in my old optical Bay that I use as a storage drive. I have Lightroom and all my apps on this disk "storage" for the storage of large files.


I ran simple copy and paste backups for a while and then started to use Chronosync two years ago. I know that this problem occurred last year and I am sure it has something to do with Lightroom because of the information I could do appear in the metadata Panel.


I have attached a bunch of screenshots below. I'd appreciate any help I can get with this... This is a really strange question. I'm fine with it now because all the files, that this problem has affected always have the correct creation date in their modification date. The files were also renamed by their created some time ago. It's only going to cause a problem when I try to sort records by year in bridge and which do not.


All files problem (which is actually my catalog of films together Lightroom) waiting to be a big key Word session and DNG conversion. Then, I was planning on moving them to an archive player where they will live out there. I'm not too comfortable with letting go files in an archive with the incorrect date information... even if file names reflect the exact date... I feel just like it could cause a problem on the road.


Please let me know if you need more information from me.


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The symptoms that you observe have nothing to do with LR.

There are two different sets of associated with a photo date/times: times file managed by the operating system (Mac OS) and the time of metadata that is stored in image files and are defined by cameras and software applications as LR.

The Finder shows you the time of files - the time that the file was created, and when it has been changed by an application.  Different applications handle the time of creation and change differently, and not all backup/synchronization programs maintain the time of creation and modification.  The creation time, shown in the screen shot, 31/12/69 19:00, is a time special is 01/01/70 0:00 UTC (assuming that your computer is currently configured on the zone IS), which is represented in many programs with the digit 0.  This suggests that one of the programs that allows you to copy your files has a bug and set the time from creation to 0.

LR does not set file times - when it creates a file or it changes, Mac OS will fix the time of creation or change automatically at the present time.

LR tells you the time that are stored inside the metadata of the image files, and the most important of them is what LR calls "hour of capture.  Cameras to set the time of capture of their built-in clocks, and LR metadata allows you to change the capture time by using metadata > command change the Capture time.  LR shows the capture time in the right metadata Panel and next to the thumbnails in the library.

If an image does not have a metadata capture time, LR will use the file's modification time (older versions of LR used at creation time).  Scanners generally do not set the capture time, so, in that your screenshot above, LR shows the modified next time thumbnails.

In general, it is dangerous to rely on the file times to represent information about your images - too many programs will do unpredictable things with those moments.  Use programs like LR allows to define the metadata of image capture time (when the shutter is pressed in the film).  Industry standards has also set a time of additional metadata, usually called "date/time digitized", i.e. when the original image has been digitized, that is converted to digital bits by a scanner.   LR does not all orders for digital time keeping (it is for the images captured by digital cameras), so if you need to maintain also digitized date/time, you will need to use another program like Exiftool (free).

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