Doubt on cloning

Hi all

Our production database is using newspaper archive and we'll take cold and RMAN backup daily weekly backup. After taking cold backup and create a new instance with cold backup using quick clone, the new instance doesnot a log mode archive programmed in initSID.ora file, some would explain the reason.


R12.1.1, db 11.1.0.7, Linux environment


Kind regards
Charan.

After taking cold backup and create a new instance with cold backup using quick clone, the new instance doesnot a log mode archive programmed in initSID.ora file, some would explain the reason.

This is an expected behavior as quick Clone does not allow default archivelog mode and you have to manually enable once you are done with the cloning.

How to enable archiving ON and OFF in Oracle RDBMS [ID 69739.1]

Thank you
Hussein

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    -rw - 1 root 42949672 85899345920 Mar 14 06:53 fstop - flat hard

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    -rw - 1 root root 85899345920 15 March 23:11 fstop - flat hard

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    Size: 85899345920 blocks: 124723200 IO block: 131072 regular file

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    -Windows shows also 80.4 GB used on the disk and 69.2 GB free

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    -Command instantly failed with the following error message:

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    -When you clone a volume compressed Windows, it uses initially declared the virtual hard disk size in space before it is compressed.
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