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• On the NI PCI-6221 fast sampling rate question

  Hi I was wondering if someone can answer a question of sampling rate on this card to PCI-6221 (http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/14132).

  Especially if I wanted to transmit simultaneously (analog output) and data acquisition (analog input), what is the sample rate max I could use. Kind regards.

  Since the 6221 is multiplexing the analog input, your question for I / simultaneous ao is possible for one channel of the only. If your "simlutaneously" can include delays (e.g., 100us), you may be able to work with several AI channels as well...

  HAVE the multiplexes, workable sample rate given that the total sample (250 kHz) frequency divided by the number of channels that you use. AO is faster than HAVE it, so it does not reduce this number.

  hope this helps,

  Norbert

• compactDAQ sample rate question...

  OK, I think I have a question in the right place, but if not I have forgiveness.  :-)

  I have a CompactDAQ (4slot) with just a 9225 and 9239 modules installed.  I've run the DAQ assistant and have all seven current channels of reading and writing in a text file of a structure of event... when I push the button, it saves the data.  Quite simple really, I have also a timer Setup 'Wait' with a 50mS wait time, so I'm basically updateing my loop 20 times per second, not so fast.  The strange thing is that my DAQ module is only send me data once per second.  A I put something wrong?  Seems to me that as updates of loop, it should return 'true' the key to the structure of the event and the data should appear at a rate of about 20 samples per second.   VI attached sample.

  Tips and points in the right direction are greatly appreciated!

  Chad

  Hi chuggins143,

  The behavior comes from your settings in the DAQ Assistant:

  

  If you want the loop to run 20 x per second, then 'Samples to Read' should be 1/20 of the sampling frequency.  DAQmx hangs until the samples 'Samples to Read' became available, so it's slowing down your loop.  You can also change the Timing settings to 'Continue', if you want to avoid gaps in your data.

  Best regards

• PCI 5154 sampling rate

  Hello

  What is the sample rate max 5154 PCI for two channel inputs? The manual States the 2GS/s is for one channel only. So, am I not able to get a bandwidth of 1 GHz for the simultaneous measurement of two channels? Thank you!

  Hi gbhaha,

  First of all, TIS mode up to 20 GECH. / s using an ADC, while your real time sampling uses two converters a/n at the same time to a single channel.  Take a look at these diagrams that I linked in my first post for more details on this architects.

  About the difference in the bandwidth between the 5153 and 5154 - the 5153 has 500 MHz of bandwidth in its circuits, even when acquiring at faster sampling rates.  The 5154 1 GHz of bandwidth, this is why it is more expensive.

  Kind regards

• than 25 ns sets sampling rate...

  Hello

  I'm trying to test the sampling rate of chassis cRIO 9103...

  I created a simple FPGA project, for sampling sign this clock frequency of the FPGA equal to 40 Mhz (on by default). I applied 1 Mhz square wave to pin MISO DIO6/SPI, place one of the slots on the frame... I put a tick 'loop timer' in ' ' loop for every moment of picking (totally 32 sampling point).

  input signals a cycle = 1000 ns (1 MHz) and I m planning see samples every 25 ns (40 MHz) on the graphical waveform. But the chart shows me only 10 points for 1 cycle like taking samples of every 100 ns instead of 25ns. (FrontSamplingRateObservation.png)

  What is to be? If so, how can I get faster sampling rate...

  I joined .vi photos of the project...

  You can consider that the only timed cycle lines and the pipeline of the operation.

• on the sample rate of PCI-6723

  According to the specification of PCI-6723, faster sampling rate is 45kSample/s, 32 channels working simultaneously. But he's always fine when I put the sampling frequency to 200kSample/s, 32 channels working simultaneously. This configuration will damage the material?

  Ok. I assume you mean update rate of sampling frequency not.  As long as you use the onboard buffer you can reach 204Ks/s 32 channels.  Since you do not get an error the device and things work it is probably what you're doing.

  You had asked the rate could only be achieved you would have been a mistake.  And the material would not be damaged by incorrect update rate adjustment.  You're ready to go!

• Question DAQ sample rate

  Hello

  I tried to understand how the 'number of samples' and 'rate' controls affect the frequency of sampling for the DAQ hardware. For example, say I want to acquire data from a sensor of pressure at a frequency of 10 Hz intuitively, I would think everything I do is on the desired sampling frequency, in this case 10 Hz control the 'frequency', try this, I know that's not true. I read that 'number of samples' affects the sample rate by setting a buffer value that must be reached before the VI will process the acquired data. So I also tried to set the "number of samples" to 1 and "rate" at 10, thinking this would have led to a sampling frequency of 10 Hz, and again, it is not. The only way I know to control the sampling frequency is using the wait function (ms), but then I always get buffer overflow errors.

  Can somone if you please explain to me the error in my thought process and also tell me the best way to control the sampling frequency? Is attached a simple VI, I am using to measure my actual sample rate and compare it to the sampling frequency that I am trying to achieve.

  The VI use the DAQ assistant to acquire data of pressure, inserts data into a table, and measure the size of the array. I'm then by dividing the size of the array by the elapsed time in seconds for the sample/s (I'm also dividing the number of iterations of the loop by seconds and using it as a comparison). I compare this value to my entries for the 'number of samples' and controls 'speed' in order to give a sense of the role they play in sampling rate. The VI also allows to choose to use the wait function (ms), as well, using this function is the only way I can control the actual sampling frequency, but then I always get buffer overflow errors. Any information would be helpful, thanks!

  What is the device that you are using? My guess is that whatever you have, it does not allow such a slow pace and is failing at its minimum.

• myRIO sampling rate

  I'm new to myRIO and use it to measure sine wave (0V to 5V) of up to 10 Hz 20 KHz. I also quickly transformed of Fourier (FFT) of the signal measured in real time.

  Sideways FPGA of things, I try to keep things pretty simple, just read 2 channels of AI (connector B: AI0 and AI1), therefore potentially able to read each HAVE 250 kech. / s (as the unit has a capacity of 500kS/s). Does that mean this program gets a two analog inputs data exactly every 4 microsecond? If this is not the case, how can I make sure that the data is acquired through a fixed sampling rate?

  

  I realized that we can add to the FFT in FPGA function, but I wanted to manipulte the acquired data of analog inputs before it is sent to the FFT, which I don't know how to do now. Can someone explain me how do the arithmetic data (muliplication, division and so) on the acquired data and analog inputs to reducde the 12-bit resolution 10-bit to program FPGAS.

  Later, I created a myRIO program to read analog data 2 FPGA program which continues to turn in timed loop. In the program myRIO, the timed loop is configured to 1 MHz clock source type by a delay of 25 microseconds.

  This configuration means that the loop runs exactly every 25 microsecond?

  When I set up the less than 10 micro second time, myRIO has stopped working. Why is it so?

  Is it because myRIO cannot run as fast as FPGA?

  

  It is advisable to make the FFT of myRIO side analog data or FPGA?

  When I tried to do FFT using the power spectrum of myRIO side, he asked for waveform data. What I acquire is data analog. How can I convert in waveform data?

  If I read in the forum for help, I couldn't have the full answer to my doubts

  Discussions at the Forum I did reference:

  http://forums.NI.com/T5/academic-hardware-products-Elvis/setting-tick-count-in-myRIO-FPGA-software/m...

  http://forums.NI.com/T5/academic-hardware-products-Elvis/myRIO-aggregate-sample-rate/m-p/2707061/HIG...

  A lot of good questions here, I will try to answer as much as I can so as to offer a bit of advice.

  First of all, if you are looking to acquire data at a very specific rate on the FPGA, you'll want to use the Timer VI.  You are also going to use a FIFO of DMA to transfer data of FPGA in real time. A node read-write using as you do now means you'll run out of samples, or read the sample even several times.  The link below is a very good tutorial on how to do what I described above.

  http://www.NI.com/Tutorial/4534/en/

  Later, I created a myRIO program to read analog data 2 FPGA program which continues to turn in timed loop. In the program myRIO, the timed loop is configured to 1 MHz clock source type by a delay of 25 microseconds.

  This configuration means that the loop runs exactly every 25 microsecond?

  When I set up the less than 10 micro second time, myRIO has stopped working. Why is it so?

  Is it because myRIO cannot run as fast as FPGA?

  In general, you should not run a timed loop much faster than 1 kHz.  Using timed inside loop knots, you can monitor the real rate of loop during execution to see if f you meet your needs of the moment.

  The portion of your myRIO RT is slower than an FPGA in the sense where it cannot manage the rates of lines 40 MHz (he makes up for it by being able to work with much better pictures) and it is important to remember that it is just a computer.  The advantage of a real-time operating system, is that you have more control on the Scheduler, not that he is faster (less jitter, not faster code). There is more good reading below.

  http://www.NI.com/white-paper/3938/en/

  It is advisable to make the FFT of myRIO side analog data or FPGA?

  When I tried to do FFT using the power spectrum of myRIO side, he asked for waveform data. What I acquire is data analog. How can I convert in waveform data?

  I would say that it is generally advisable to treat your FFT on the side FPGA as long as you have the resources available, but for many applications probably little matter ultimately.

• DMM (NI 4070), how to correctly set AC Freq (bandwidth) by the sampling rate

  using a NI4070 multimeter and I see the max connection is 300 kHz by respect it.  But I don't understand how to set the min and max, acFrequency according to the sampling frequency or speed reading.

  6 1/2 digits resolution, the speed can vary from 0.25 s/s to 100 s/s and this range corresponds to a lower end on the connection (minimum acFreq) from 1 Hz to 400 Hz.

  (Q1a) - is the playback speed, controlled by the minimum setting of IviDmm_ConfigureACBandwidth?   or vice versa?

  Otherwise, I do not see how to control the rate of reading or the sampling frequency.   IviDmm_ConfigureMeasurement only allows you to control the range and resolution.

  (Q1b) - is there a way to directly control the sample rate (digitizer) or playback speed (dmm)?

  (T2) - the upper limit of the bandwidth of AC always seems to be at 300 kHz... is there still a reason to reduce this maximum value?

  (T3) - Finally, unlike the traditional niDmm function, the resolution via the IVI configuration should be passed as absolute value; does directly when number of digits and the beach?   For example if I want to 6 1/2 digit to 300V range, I guess that by the specifications that the resolution should be set at 0.001 V... followign, if I want 5 1/2 digits to 1V range, the resolution should be set to 0.00001 V?

  Hi Rjohnson,

  I'll try to answer your questions as best as I can:

  Q1A.  The ConfigurACBandwidth function is used by the driver OR DMM to calculate the good aperautre for the measure.  So yes, by adjusting your minimum frequency, you will affect your reading speed.

  Q1B.  Your reading rate will depend largely on your measuring cycle.  To get a fast measuring cycle, there are a few things that you can adjust.  You can programmatically control your time aperature, as well as your time to settle.

  Q2. I can't find a reason to change. This parameter is only used for error-checking and verifies that the value of
  This setting is less than the maximum frequency of the device.

  Q2B.  I think what you say is right, but I'll need to check on that - I'll let know you as soon as.

  Hope that helps.  "" "I would recommend checking the explanation of the Cycle of the DMM measurement in DMM help' devices ' NI 4070" DMM Measuments "DMM measurement Cycle.

  Take care!!

• High sampling rate for 18 strings in a single task - DAQmx

  Hello

  My current experiences require the acquisition of 18 channels (6 HAVE custom voltage with excitement, voltage AI 12) data at a sampling frequency of 50 kHz. My question is if it is faesible using a single cDAQ-9172 chassis. Used modules are 2 x NI 9237 and 4 x NI 9215.

  The previous researcher on this project used 2 different Renault to do this, but I was hoping that I could reduce it to a single DAQ to simplify the synchronization of all channels.

  I wrote a *.vi (attached) to do this and write to a TDMS file using a structure of producer-consumer; However, when I run the * .vi, I can run for minutes, but the number of samples recorded for the PDM is rarely more than 100 k. Subsequently a buffer size error (attempted to read from the samples that have been overwritten) with less than 200 k samples ever record. I checked the max sampling rate (using a property timing node) with the configured task as in the * .vi and it shows a maximum of 235kHz.

  I can't say if I make just the structure of the producer consumer incorrectly or if I ask too much of the cDAQ-9172 unique?

  Any help would be much appreciated.

  See you soon

  Bart

  Hi bart.s,

  TiTou speaks sampling aggregate not simultaneous, so sampling rate 50kS/s is the same for all channels.

  I see the problem in the loop of the producer. If your sampling frequency is 50kS/s/ch and you read that a single sample/ch you will lose data because the producer loop cannot run so fast. You should read more than one sample. I recommend you also to move your tracing to the consumption loop code and work with larger amounts of data.

  The second problem may be with the error handling in your loop of consumer. Merge the mistakes of loop of consumer and producer and also add a few general for two loops off if the error occurs (for example, using local variable).

  Best regards

  CaravagGIO

• acquisition of data with different sampling rates high

  I have a few questions on the use of the OMB-DAQ-3005 with different sampling rates high.

  For our application, we have 8 analog inputs. Which two are a quick response and should be sampled frequently.  We have an encoder quadrature (CPR 1000 running at 1800 rpm).  We plan to sample X 4 encoder.  For the analog inputs for the quick response, we want to trigger a sample of each pulse or each a few pulses, thus creating a timestamp with the position of the encoder with respect to position index as well as two fast analog inputs.  We have data correlating the analog inputs with the position of the encoder.   Other analog inputs, we want to measure relatively slowly (for example once every 5 dry or similar).

  How can I go on the configuration of the two (or more) sampling rates different wherein I can taste entered at different frequencies?  Also, is there a way to reset the encoder count after outbreak of the index as I have the position of the encoder with respect to the index?

  Maybe you'll find someone here who uses the OMB-DAQ-3005, but this forum is really more designed for LabVIEW programming issues.

  I've never used the OMB-DAQ-3005, but out of curiosity, I took a glance at the Manual of OMB-DAQ-3005.  The answer to both your questions are:

  1. you cannot run a hardware DQA Multiplex (like this one) at independent rates by channel.

  2. the OMB-DAQ-3005 supports an Index Z feature to reset the counter - look for documentation on how to configure any software interface you are using.  If you get stuck, you can try to discover media appropriate for instrument channel.

  Best regards

• Specific sampling rate?

  So maybe this is a stupid question, but I need to know because I train for a specific sound. Is there a way [to logic] to shoot/change of a certain frequency sampling rates. I can imitate the sound I'm looking for with a low pass filter, reverb and a distortion. But I don't want to 'emulate', this sound, I want to create. Then I can put my own effects and play with it like I want to. If I have to use a bunch of effects to make it sound like I want that also the addition of said effects remove the sound and sound horrible. as to where pulling the sampling frequency of the high frequency and no downs will make me THE noise that I need and always allow to add nice effects to make MY sound instead of someone else. I hope you know what I mean. Let me to you specific real once more. I want to pull or carry a certain frequency sampling rates for a sound under water. I don't want to use filters to make the sound. So can you please help me. I invited everyone locally on how to do it and nothing works. Also if this is not possible in the logic of tell me if there are third party plug ins or maybe even a different DAW that could do like komplete Kontrol or audacity.

  Effect under water

  See if this thread is helpful at all...

• Sample rate Max USB-4065

  Currently, I am trying to log readings of DC voltage with an AA battery in an ASCII using LabVIEW 2009 of SingalExpress file and the USB-4065 digital multimeter (DMM). I have two stages:

  (1) acquisition of Signal > voltage DC using DMM

  -resolution 4.5 with 3.333333E the value-5 sampling period

  2) save in ASCII

  -The value to add to the file, delete the file after each race

  Faster reading, I can get is a data point written in the ASCII file every eighth of a second.

  Furthermore, I am new and software OR LabVIEW, the LabVIEW SignalExpress software I have is only for evaluation as it was included in the CD of the driver for the USB 4065 DMM.

  1. Max (30 000 samples per second) sampling rate is only achievable by a LabVIEW VI?
  
  
  2. Don't I have the wrong settings for DMM step?
  
  
  3. Is it because I haven't activated SignalExpress and am only using the evaluation version?

  Thanks in advance for any help!

  Hello Lukos,

  You are assuming that you need access to lower level functions in order to obtain the higher sampling rates. In order to get these speeds, we need to disable some settings that are not accessible via Signal Express. You can create a VI and then use a step VI call in Signal Express to stay in the same environment.

  Kind regards

  -Travis E

• Sampling rate 9172 OR cDAQ

  I am using a cDAQ 9172 with modules NI 9219, NI 9264 and three NI 9211.  I'm looking to acquire signals out of the acquisition of data within a loop under continuous sampling.  My program works fine if I set the number of samples to read 1-2 Hz, but I need to go faster than that.  If I change the sampling rate, the loop is executed at this speed but sensors still read only in samples at 2 Hz and then duplicating over and over again.  I was wondering if it was possible to read on 1 sample at the time of the acquisition of data at a faster rate.  I know that the frequency of sampling on the sensors and data acquisition are much higher than that.  1 sample at the time of the Board of Directors has the limitatioins of being only able to run at 2 Hz?  Please let me know

  Thank you

  Craig

  Hi Craig,.

  I don't know exactly what you describe. Are you feeding the DAQmx Read output in an express VI? Or are you using the express VI DAQ Assistant for the analog input task?

  If you use the DAQ Assistant, you can set the ADC synchronization mode without changing your code:

  

  If not, use the 'Active channels (if subset)' property to control the subset of channels on which your VI defines AI. ADCTimingMode.

  For example, the following code snippet creates 8 virtual channels named myVoltage0 by myVoltage7 and sets HAVE them. ADCTimingMode on myVoltage4 of virtual channels through myVoltage7. These are in the cDAQ1Mod2/ai0 physical channels via cDAQ1Mod2/ai3:

  

  If you leave off of the entry "name" on the string to create VI, then the virtual channel names are the same as the names of physical channel, so it's the equivalent:

  

  And by the way, a right-click on the property and selecting "create > Constant ' context menu saves you from having to hardcode a number like 14712.

  Brad

• . VI filtering IIR and response: response of Butterworth filter size depends on sampling rate - why?

  Hi people,

  I'm not an expert in the design of the filter, only a person in applying them, so please can someone help me with an explanation?

  I need to filter signals very infrequent using a buttherwoth filter 2. or 3. order of the bandpass 0.1 to 10 Hz.

  Very relevant amplitudes are BELOW 1 Hz, often less than 0.5 Hz, but there is as well the amplitudes beyond 5 Hz to observe.

  It's fixed and prescribed for the application.

  However, the sampling rate of the measuring system is not prescribed. It may be between say between 30 and 2000 Hz. Depends on the question of whether the same set of data is used for analysis of the higher up to 1000 Hz frequencies on the same measure or this is not done by the user and he chooses a lower sampling rate to reduce the size of files, especially when measuring for longer periods of several weeks.

  To compare the response amplitude of 2nd and 3rd order filter, I used the example of IIR filtering .vi and response:

  I was very surprised when I found that the response of greatness is considerably influenced by the SAMPLING RATE I say the signal generator in this example vi.

  Can you please tell me why - and especially why the filter of order 3 will be worse for the parts of low frequency below 1 Hz signal. Told me of people experienced with filters that the 3rd oder will less distort the amplitudes which does nothing for my the frequencies below 1 Hz.

  In the attached png you see 4 screenshots for 2 or 3 command and sampling rate of 300 or 1000 Hz to show you the answers of variable magnitude without opening labview.

  THANK YOU very much for your ANSWERS!

  Chris

  Hello Cameron and thanks for my lenses of compensation.

  I can now proudly present the solution of my problem.

  It seems to be purely a problem of the visualistion information filters through the cluster of the scale.

  After looking in the front panel of the IIR, I suddenly noticed that the "df" of the pole size is changing with the Fs of the input signal.

  For a Fs to 30 Hz, the "df" is 0.03 Hz so you see the curve of the filter with more points, see png.

  For a Fs 300 Hz "df" is 0.3 Hz, so the curve is larger with only 3 points between 0 and 1 Hz.

  For a 1 kHz Fs the df is 0,976 Hz, so there is no point in the graph between 0 and 1 Hz.

  It's strange that for constant Fs, df of this cluster NOT reduced with the increase in the number of samples, as it does in an FFT.

  However, I hope now the filter used now for the curves obtained with the proposed Lynn way and the response of greatness from the filter information fit together.

  Thank you for your support.

  Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all.

  Chris