Is this large normal DNG file format?
Hello
1) I get this picture in RAW and then decided to convert to DNG cause, it is easier to use the DNG format as the original Canon RAW format. The DNG format is now 8Mb in size.
Now, the idea is to post-processing, the DNG in Lightroom, but I kinda need to do some pixel changes first in Photoshop and for that, I'll opt for the opening of the DNG format in Photoshop. As usual, the window pop up ACR and since I did not have to do any editing here, I'll just open a copy of the image (Alt + open). Before that, I configure the settings of openness, that I chose "sRGB; 16 bits; 240ppi"because I want to keep the more possible data.
I do my editing of pixels in Photoshop, save the image as a TIFF with ZIP compression and the file is now 52Mb in size. Which is a little strange because if I save the TIFF file without any compression, the file is only 58Mb in size.
In any case, I have then open the TIFF file in Lightroom and do all my editing necessary. When I finished, I want to keep this photo to DNG as opposed to TIFF cause I think it is a most versatile and for that format, I export as DNG from Lightroom (or I could convert the menu library). At this point, the size of the DNG file is like 43 MB and I still think that its way too big.
Is this normal file size? How is this new file has more than 40 MB? Is it because the file is 16 bit and there is no way around it? I think because save the same 8-bit, produced only 12 MB file with ZIP compression. But I still don't quite get it... I mean, all the data of the original RAW file installed on the first conversion to DNG with only 8 MB file, how will the other needs like 40 or even 12 Mo (if it is stored in 8 bits) when the original has only 8 MB? This becomes even more confusing when both files (the original DNG and the 16 bit TIFF) report as of 48 cases of depth, which means that the two are 16-bit files. Why the huge difference in size? I'm doing something wrong?
Above is the main question, but I have a couple more if you don't mind associated with the workflow described above. Please respond separatedly and listed as I did if this isn't a problem.
2) as you can see above, I chose sRGB but I know that Lightroom works in ProPhoto RGB. Should I have selected ProPhoto RGB instead of sRGB when opening a DNG copy in Photoshop?
3) no matter what the color profile, I select, save dialogue of the TIFF file after the Photoshoping as a little checkbox saying "ICC profile: xpto ' and if it is enabled, the color profile is saved in the TIFF metadata XMP part. Is it really necessary to save this metadata field or can I just ignore it?
That's all for now
A RAW is 1-color-by-pixel, maybe 12-bit or 14-bit. A TIFF file is
3 colors per pixel and in your case, 16 bits per color per pixel. If a
TIFF should be approximately three times larger than the RAW format, but there is
a compression without loss with RAW so the actual size is difficult to predict.
Agree with other people that can answer, it is better to use LR, first make your
adjustments, then as a last step, make any remaining editing in Photoshop,
Save as either TIFF 16-bit ProPhotoRGB if you're going to be a edit
further and save a copy as sRGB if you have finished editing.
ProPhotoRGB holds more colors than sRGB or AdobeRGB PP is 'better' as a
intermediate color space until the edition is no longer will be performed to
This time usually converting you to sRGB for viewing online or work with
in a non color workflow. Here is a gallery of images that
demonstrate why use of PhotoPhotoRGB:
http://www.PBase.com/ssprengel/tech_colorprofiles
XPTO suspicious noises as a color space. If you do not know how this
color space is assigned to your image in Photoshop, you need to understand
Why. Out of Photoshop, I think a picture is
ProPhotoRGB (if you have not finished editing), AdobeRGB (if you're on a Mac or)
He's going to a printer off site there), or sRGB (if you have completed
Edition and it will be consulted online or locally on your computer and you are
on a PC).
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Since your problem is with Excel, you might get a better answer here http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us?auth=1
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Photo Gallery can't open the photo or the video because this file format is not supported or I have no updates to the photo gallery of what it means?
Hi mariart
Welcome to the Microsoft Answers Forum!
· What format of picture or video file you are trying to open using the Windows Photo Gallery?
Here is the link that will give you the description of the Windows Photo Gallery: Windows Photo Gallery: frequently asked questions
Make sure that the Windows Photo Gallery is the default value. Steps to follow:
i. Click Start, in the search box type in default of program
II. Select set your default programs
III. click the windows photo gallery, and then select set this program as default
Link for reference: change that uses default Windows programs
Thank you, and in what concerns:
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Updated photo galleryOn the Windows Photo Gallery, I get the following message: Photo Gallery can't open this photo or video. This file format is not supported or you do not have the photo gallery was last updated. I tried to download a site to print it and the download is finished, and then I got this message when I tried to open it.
I'm having the same problem with a photo that is in a jpg format... I have no trouble to watch the other jpg files. The only difference is that I bought this photo and he was sent as an attachment in an email, but the name of the file ends with .jpg, so I guess it's a jpg...
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You can save the file .jpg on your desktop?If you can... try to open it in Windows Paint and re - save as a jpg.
Windows Vista-
Open Paint
http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/open-Paint John Inzer - MS - MVP - digital media experience -
I have a laptop with Vista & have tried opening several pdf for about a month, got the same error msg: "Photo Gallery can't open this photo or video. This file format is not supported or you do not have the photo gallery was last updated. »
Can I still use the Windows Photo Gallery to open the .jpg images that are saved on the disk "c"; In addition, a month ago, I was able to open PDFs with success.
Pls help!
PDF files must be associated with a like Adobe Reader or Foxit Reader PDF reader.
Articles expain how to change a file association.
Windows Vista - change which programs Windows uses by default
http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/change-which-programs-Windows-uses-by-defaultWindows Vista - how to associate a file Extension
Type with a program under Vista
http://www.Vistax64.com/tutorials/69758-default-programs.html
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Photo Gallery, download pictures from an sd card
Hi essayons58,
1. did you of recent changes on the computer?
2 when was the last time it was working fine?
3. What is the file format of the images on the SD card?
Make sure you have Windows Photo Gallery set as default photo on the computer Viewer and then check if it works.
(a) open default programs by clicking the Start button, click default programs.
(b) click set your default programs
(c) in the list of programs, click Windows Photo Gallery and later click on this default program as a whole.
(d) click OK
Check if you can download the photos from the SD card.
Windows Photo Gallery: frequently asked questions
http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/Windows-Photo-Gallery-frequently-asked-questions
How can I get pictures from my camera to my computer?
http://Windows.Microsoft.com/en-us/Windows-Vista/how-do-I-get-pictures-from-my-camera-to-my-computer
I hope this helps!
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original title: Windows Photo Gallery
I downloaded a game, MCF Dire Grove, it is a RAR file. Says Windows Photo Gallery: "Photo Gallery can't open this picture or file. (This file format is not supported, or you do not have the latest updates of photo gallery' 1) I have the latest updates. (2) my computer is Windows Vista Premium. Can someone help me?
Thank you
Download and install this
http://download.CNET.com/WinRAR-32-bit/3000-2250_4-10007677.html
Open the file and extract to a known location.
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Vista - Photo Gallery
Tried to upload a .jpg from an SD card image (the image was scanned with a Pandigital Photo converter, slide, negative (model # 05 PANSCN).) This message appeared in the photo gallery, "Photo Gallery can't open this photo or video. This file format is not supported, or you do not have the latest updates to the photo gallery. "I inserted the SD card even in a HP Photosmart C6280 printer; the printer has recognized the file and print the photo. The converter from Pandigital is useless unless the Vista updates can 'cure' photo gallery. What do you, Microsoft?
Tried to upload a .jpg from an SD card image (the image was scanned with a Pandigital Photo converter, slide, negative (model # 05 PANSCN).) This message appeared in the photo gallery, "Photo Gallery can't open this photo or video. This file format is not supported, or you do not have the latest updates to the photo gallery. "I inserted the SD card even in a HP Photosmart C6280 printer; the printer has recognized the file and print the photo. The converter from Pandigital is useless unless the Vista updates can 'cure' photo gallery. What do you, Microsoft?
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Just one question... when done scanning and recording of the scans...
you select the options to reduce the file size by compressing
the photos?If you have only a few of these scans... you could open their
one at a time in Windows Paint and go to... File / save as...
Enter a new name, choose a backup folder and choose .jpg.
This will create a new version of the same photo and I suspect
It will be compatible with Windows Photo Gallery.Also... it may be interesting to try to install Windows Live Photo Gallery.
(FWIW... it's always a good idea to create a system)
Restore point before installing software or updates)Download Windows live Photo Gallery
http://explore.live.com/Windows-Live-Photo-Gallery
(There are other applications included in the download...
Uncheck the ones you don't want)No guarantee... but there is a possibility that reinstall
DirectX can improve this problem.(FWIW... it's always a good idea to create a system)
Restore point before installing software or updates)End-user Runtime Web install DirectX
http://www.Microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=2da43d38-DB71-4C1B-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=enVolunteer - MS - MVP - Digital Media Experience J - Notice_This is not tech support_I'm volunteer - Solutions that work for me may not work for you - * proceed at your own risk *.
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I dump a video one it paginates web to my computer, but when I pressed the refoulement of finishing on open in Photo Gallery and information that says appeared: Photo Gallery can't open this photo or video, but already look at the latest library updates and them has already, please tell me what can be the problem to perform a video? Thank you for your response.
Hello andres acosta,
Thank you for visiting the Microsoft answers Site.
You can check that the videos or photos are in a supported file format. Photo Gallery supports the following formats of photo file: JPEP, JFIF, TIFF, PNG, BMP, and of the WDP.
If Windows Movie Maker is installed, Photo Gallery supports the following video file types: ASF, AVI, MPEG and WMV.
You can also introduce below for more information about a similar issue:
I hope this information is useful.
Thank you
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