Number of CPU cores required (Virtual vs. physical) for video editing 4 K Prime Minister?
Hi all.
About to start my own business / video editing. I'm doing a customized version of PC. I am considering a motherboard very processor dual Xeon with maybe 64 GB of RAM and a certified Quadro 4 GB or 8 GB GPU. The 4 k I intend to work on commercials under 15 long minutes, will take place with an average of 3 video tracks and 2 audio tracks.
When it comes to running Adobe Premier Pro 5.5 or 6 (for 4K editing video and rendering), I read that it is recommended to have 12 hearts in each of the two processors. (The PDF I read was an official guide of 2015 from Intel: "Hardware Performance Guide: serious 4 K editing ')
Now, I wonder if this figure of 12 cores per processor is related to PHYSICAL cores, or ALL hearts including VIRTUAL cores (.. .If it is referred to all the hearts, so I just need to buy two 6 core processors, giving a total of 24 cores can be used.) Big price difference between a 6 core CPU and a 12 core...
The Xeon series which will be compatible with my MB is the 2600 CPU of the E5 v3 family. Stories of advice or that popular horror...!
Paul.
guide intel suggests probably 12 real hearts, possibly the v3 of E5-2680. It would be double Xeon 24/48 virtual hearts.
software Adobe does not need the features on the quadro, using the version of game/Office nvidia gtx can help save money.
If you need 10 bit out for the color correction, view maps of mfg as blackmagic, aja and others may be a better option.
have you already bought the motherboard?
Hardware requirements may vary for different types of media and project as multi-cam configurations. codecs like h264/5 are very difficult for the processor process and the gpu should be handled, but first does not currently support gpu accelerated encoding/decoding. This is what can lead to dual xeons as intel recommends. Dual cpu also have large overhead, reducing their combined processing power. Another reason why intel may recommend the 12 core dual processor. If you use the less demanding codecs such as prores or dnxhr, UC must be as powerful, and can even be possible to use a single processor. Some people transcode their sequences of difficult codecs like h264/5 prores or dnxhr as a whole work rather than buy a more powerful system to manage h264/5 when editing.
Intel PDF: "Hardware Performance Guide: serious 4 K editing."
It is important to note that software engineers need to write specific code to take advantage of some features like multiple nuclei (multithreading) and virtual cores (hyper-threading). Consumer applications such as Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe After Effects already take full advantage of these features.
If you check that the tests carried out here: Tweakers Page - decide between one processor or dual CPU and read through the discussions here and other websites, you will find the results against this last sentence. software Adobe has long had problems fully multi-threads, the first is not as bad as some of the other adobe programs but can still have problems.
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