Virtual copies
I want to try to apply different effects to the image itself, so I made a virtual copy of an image.
1. is this a virtual copy remain in the catalogue until deletion?
2. my virtual copy has all the effects applied to the original image, and there is no available on the virtual copy history to return to the original. I'm trying to make changes in order to compare the two, although I'd rather not have to remove all the effects that I applied to the original, is there a way to get around this?
Thank you.
Hi kat from media,.
1. Yes, the virtual copies remain in the catalog. However, they do not take a lot of space. All that is necessary for a VC is the list of the adjustments you see in the history panel, because it is based on the same original file.
2. it is a more difficult question. As you noted, fist in the historical a VC Panel is "Create a virtual copy", and it carries with it all the settings of the master (but without the detailed steps included in the history).
I can't think a good way to get the steps of the exact story of an original copied on a virtual copy, without taking the steps one at a time manually. However, you can change any effect later (without loss) for both images. So I don't know why you would need from the history list. Can you provide an example of what you're trying to do? Maybe we can find another way.
Mike
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