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• Constants in the calculation Manager

  Hello, is there a way of constant output in calculation Manager?  I tried to generate a value, but I get an error (object required: 'CurrCalculationValues').

  Specifically, I want the molecular weight of carbon output.  Since it is a constant 12,011 g/mol, that I do not see how to set the value to use in other calculations.  I don't want to enter the constant in each calculation that uses it as an input, I prefer to use the dependency.  (There are other constants which are a little more complicated than this one).

  I guess I can sum up my question like: "How you use constant OUTPUT calculations as INPUTS to other calculations channel."

  Hi Russell,

  I recommend that you export each constant to a property attached to the root level, group or channel (depending on which is most appropriate based on the scope of the constant).  Then, you can reference this property as an input in the subsequent calculations.

  Brad Turpin

  Tiara Product Support Engineer

  National Instruments

• The value of path as unit target in the calculation Manager

  Hello

  is there a way to define a course of treatment as unit target in the calculation Manager? I have data with unspecified units (for example, deg_Cel ° C) then I disabled the calculation of the amount in function. Now I want the result channel have the same unit as the first input channel (something like @@ChnUnit (N) @).

  Best regards

  Martin

  Hi Martin,

  You can launch the Manager of calculation without management unit (turn based on the amount off the coast).  You can set the property unit of the resulting string with ChnDim() to be of the same unit as the starting channel.  I guess you do all that with a VBScript.  You actually run the Manager calculation by hand with the mouse?

  You can add as many lines of VBScript code that you want at the end of the normal equation.  Here is an example of calculation which comes with tiara:

  P = n * (2 * Pi / 60) * M * (1 / 1000)

  If you click the button, you can add the following line of VBScript call second to run the equation:

  Calculate the call ("P = n * (2 * Pi/60) * M * (1 / 1000)", CurrSymbols, CurrValues, "kW")
  
  ChnDim (P) = ChnDim (n)

  Brad Turpin

  Tiara Product Support Engineer

  National Instruments

• Calculation Manager site launch connect to 11.1.2.4

  I am actually looking for the equivalent newspaper to launch HBR connect 11.1.2.1 which shows ask what time of execution have been entered, how long the rule Manager calc took etc.

  I tried looking for that but the locations do not match:

  Location of the log of the calculation Manager?

  File vacuum calcmgrlaunch.log

  Note, I'm trying this for a HBR Essbase not planning.

  I don't know there's an equivalent for essbase, rules are executed directly on essbase, so probably the essbase application log

  See you soon

  John

• Calculation Manager does not start after the 11.1.2.3.500 patch

  Hi all

  Before the upgrade with the patch 500 the EPM environment worked very well.

  After you apply the hotfix (17529887) and later (19142919), I am facing a strange error.

  After restarting the services, Manager of calculation does not work. All other components of EPMA operate correctly.

  When trying to start the calculation Manager, the window becomes like a Web page when there is no internet connection. Internal error in the server with instructions to check your internet connection, etc..

  I looked in several log files, but did not find anything.

  Where to look?

  Kind regards

  Philip Hulsebosch

  Hi Philippe,.

  We had the same problems with our manager of Calc, but our environment was on a SSL using SST. To apply a patch 18880328 on 17529887 to get this working. Don't know if you're on SSL, but its value give a try.

  From the Readme:

  18814874

  After the application SSL using SST, sailing Manager of calculation, may show a blank page.

  https://updates.Oracle.com/Orion/services/download?type=Readme&Aru=17802865#_Toc391649535

  You also have to apply 11.1.2.3.501 Hyperion Shared Services (18672071) If you are on SSL.

  HTH

  Thank you

• Calculation Manager takes a long time to open after application of the correctif.500

  Hi all

  We have our EPM environment in windows Server 2008 and have recently applique.500 Patch and all components work properly except calculation Manager and when I connect to the workspace and open the calc Bishop taking lot of time (8-10 Min) to open and after which I get an error like "there was an error in retrieving the list of typical applications. Please see the log file of calculation Manager for more information.

  I checked the CalcMgr0.log but I see no error here.

  (1) how can open the mgr quick calc without taking a lot of time because the customer does not accept that his lot to take some time to open.

  (2) how can I ensure that I don't get the error above.

  You can see the screenshot of the error above in my blog:

  http://Hyperion-consulting.blogspot.in

  Kind regards

  VJ

  Hi all

  I solved the problem...

• The calculation Manager GUI

  Hello

  In the calculation Manager GUI does not appear in FireFox (I have remote XUL addon installed and activated) and wrote a plugin is required to view this content. This plugin should be?

  Thank you

  It requires adobe flash player 10 +.

  See you soon

  John

  http://John-Goodwin.blogspot.com/

• Automate the calculation against Essbase ASO through the calculation Manager

  Hi all

  Anyone know if I can automate the calculation stored in calculation on a cube Essbase ASO Manager?

  I need calculation automated directly against an Essbase cube as it is not a planning application.

  I tried to use CalcMgrCmdLineLauncher.cmd , but it seems not to be able to find the application. I'm assuming that she tries to locate a planning instead of an application of Essbase application.

  Currently I have a number of calculation parameters in the calculation Manager but I would like to automate the process, as well as on a daily basis, the cube is rebuild and recalculated.

  Any ideas if CalcMgrCmdLineLauncher.cmd should work or if there is another method, in addition to my calculations in MaxL.

  Thank you

  Jimmy

  What version? If it's so 11.1.2.3 for Essbase you use a launcher separated in % EPM_ORACLE_HOME%\common\calcmgr\11.1.2.0\lib, calcmgrCmdLine.jar file if it is an earlier version and then probably will need to use MaxL

  See you soon

  John

  http://John-Goodwin.blogspot.com/

• How do we take a scheduled backup of the business rules of calculation Manager 11.1.1.3?

  How do we take a scheduled backup of the business rules of calculation Manager 11.1.1.3?

  Hi Celvin,

  We have to implement something like the utility formdefutil for Web Forms. LCM is an option, however, and we are looking for all the utilities. Please let us know is it is

  Thanks for your help!

• Validation error in calculation Manager business rule (@_AT)?

  I've migrated a 11.1.1.3 business rule and both macros (models) in the calculation Manager 11.1.2.2. When I validate the script I get the following error. Everyone has seen this before or have any advice? Script syntax checks ok.

  "An error occurred in: rule: FCO_3YrBud_DGAlloc error: formula [statement of DIFFICULTY] (line 24) parse error: expected [()] found [@_AT]" after the function name rule FCO_3YrBud_DGAlloc ".

  Line 24 is the first declaration of FIX in the script below show:

  UPDATECALC OFF SET; AGGMISSG OFF SET;

  Model of % (name: = "FCOm_TargetSection", ask: = 'FCO', plantype: = 'FCO', PDT: = ("parm1": = ([["three year Budget"]]), "parm2": = ([["DGAllocation"]]), "parm3":=([[{FCOrtpYears}]]),"parm4":=([[Mar]])))))

  Model of % (name: = "FCOm_TargetAgg", ask: = 'FCO', plantype: = 'FCO', PDT: = ("parm1": = ([["three year Budget"]]), "parm2": = ([["DGAllocation"]]), "parm3":=([[{FCOrtpYears}]]),"parm4":=([[Mar]])))))

  First model:

  UPDATECALC OFF SET; AGGMISSG OFF SET;

  /****************************************************************************************************************

  FCOm_TargetSection

  parm1 = scenario

  PARM2 = version

  parm3 = years

  parm4 = periods

  The purpose of this macro is to translate GBP target and copy in the Curr entry and aggreggated. Step 1: Copy the total Section entry to I / P Total Section and no step 1 project: copy converted into money - no need to translate entries all entries are in GBP step 2: copy entry GBP to Curr NA values

  *****************************************************************************************************************/

  DIFFICULTY (([["trois ans Budget"]]), ([["DGAllocation"]]), ([["FY15"]]), ([[Sun]]), @IDESCENDANTS ("BH - T"), "Curr NA", "basic", 'Entry in the currency', ' one - 6111 "," A - 6112 ',' A - 6113 ', ' a - 65 ',' A - 66 ',' A - 620905 ')

  DATACOPY 'Total Section' to 'Input_Total Section;

  DATACOPY 'Total Section' to 'no project ';

  ENDFIX

  DIFFICULTY (([["trois ans Budget"]]), ([["DGAllocation"]]), ([["FY15"]]), ([[Sun]]), @IDESCENDANTS ("BH - T"), 'Curr NA', 'Total Section', Section 'Input_Total', 'No project', ' base', ' a - 6111 "," A - 6112 ',' A - 6113 ',' A - 65 ',' A - 66 ',' A - 620905 ')

  DATACOPY 'entered currency' to 'convert currency (GBP);

  ENDFIX

  DIFFICULTY (([["trois ans Budget"]]), ([["DGAllocation"]]), ([["FY15"]]), ([[Sun]]), @IDESCENDANTS ("BH - T"), "Total area", 'Input_Total', 'No project' Section, "basic", 'Entered in the currency ", converted into currency (GBP)', ' a - 6111", "A - 6112 ',' A - 6113 ',' a - 65 ',' A - 66 ',' A - 620905 ')

  DATACOPY "Curr NA ' to 'entry GBP;

  ENDFIX

  Second model:

  /****************************************************************************************************************

  FCOm_TargetAgg

  parm1 = scenario

  PARM2 = version

  parm3 = years

  parm4 = periods

  The purpose of this macro is to target data aggreggate Step2: aggregate data

  *****************************************************************************************************************/

  DIFFICULTY (([["trois ans Budget"]]), ([["DGAllocation"]]), ([["FY15"]]), ([[Sun]]), "basic", "Entered in the currency ',' converted to currency (GBP)")

  CALC DIM ("account", "BudgetHolder", "Admission tickets", "SectionProjects");

  ENDFIX

  In fact

  I just re thinking about your message. My comments above is not correct for your situation. The syntax above is correct if you are talking about the code 'in' the model itself (so if you open the template and look at the code). But if the code you have posted in your messages made from the window of script of the rule (in script view) then your problem is something different potentially.

  So the first thing is to make sure that in the model itself (open model), the PDT is defined in the global range or range of Member as [Parm1], [Parm2] etc. (or difficulty, depends on the way the model is shown) as I said in my first reply above, the model only defines the DTP, not members and must be placed between square brackets , as [Parm1}. Who will make that the DTP as defined in your model correctly. Then we need to look at how you define these PDT in the rule itself. Normally, it is much easier if your rule is in the chart view, as you just click on the model and you can enter the values. As you have your rule in Script mode, you must be very careful about how you set the values of the PAO. Every DTP 'type' has a different syntax in script mode.

  Looking at your script again I see another problem potentially. When you set the values in the DTP, the value must locking with double brackets, so [['three year Budget"]]. In your script, you must also in brackets. That is not always correct. There are moments between brackets and double square brackets is correct, but it is only when your DTP is of type 'Members', and by default, according to me, old macros of business rule translates into templates with the "Script" DTP types

  So, if you also change your business section where the models are defined as below; (as you can see, without parentheses around the DTP values).

  UPDATECALC OFF SET; AGGMISSG OFF SET;

  Model % (name: = "FCOm_TargetSection", application: = 'FCO', plantype: = 'FCO', dtps:=("parm1":=[["Three_Year_Budget"]],"parm2":=[["DGAllocation"]],"parm3":=[[{FCOrtpYears}]],"parm4":=[[Mar]]))))

  Model % (name: = "FCOm_TargetAgg", application: = 'FCO', plantype: = 'FCO', dtps:=("parm1":=[["Three_Year_Budget"]],"parm2":=[["DGAllocation"]],"parm3":=[[{FCOrtpYears}]],"parm4":=[[Mar]]))))

  The end of the game should be that when you open your rule and the view script and script tab then select low bottom your models should look as below, as you can see, everything that needs to be included in the script are the values substituted for the definition of the model, the key point is that there are no brackets or parentheses. The script should show script "pure". (I have highlighted and underlined how these 4 PDT should result in script mode)

  First model:

  UPDATECALC OFF SET; AGGMISSG OFF SET;

  /****************************************************************************************************************

  FCOm_TargetSection

  parm1 = scenario

  PARM2 = version

  parm3 = years

  parm4 = periods

  The purpose of this macro is to translate the target entry to GBP and copy of Curr NA and associate. Step 1: Copy the total Section entry to I / P Total Section and no step 1 project: copy converted into money - no need to translate entries all entries are in GBP step 2: copy entry GBP to Curr NA values

  *****************************************************************************************************************/

  DIFFICULTY ('Three-year Budget', 'DGAlocation', FY15, Mar, @IDESCENDANTS ("BH - T"), "Curr NA", "basic", 'Seized currency', '-6111 ", '-6112", "has - 6113", "A - 65", "A - 66", "-620905")

  DATACOPY 'Total Section' to 'Input_Total Section;

  DATACOPY 'Total Section' to 'no project ';

  ENDFIX

  DIFFICULTY ('Three-year Budget', 'DGAlocation', FY15, Mar, @IDESCENDANTS ("BH - T"), "Curr NA', 'Total Section', Section 'Input_Total', 'No project', 'basic', '-6111", '-6112 "," has - 6113 "," A - 65 "," A - 66 ","-620905 ")

  DATACOPY 'entered currency' to 'convert currency (GBP);

  ENDFIX

  DIFFICULTY (FY15, Mar, 'DGAlocation' and 'Three-year Budget', @IDESCENDANTS("BH-T"), 'Total Section', Section 'Input_Total', 'No project', 'basic', 'Entered in the currency "," converted into currency (GBP)', '-6111 ", '-6112", "-6113", "A - 65", "A - 66", "-620905")

  DATACOPY "Curr NA ' to 'entry GBP;

  ENDFIX

  Thank you

  Anthony

• Cannot use Smart list postings in the calculation Manager

  Hi all
  
  I wrote the script with condition for active listings in Cal Script
  
  If ("Eligible Grade" == 1)
  'Per Diem per capita' = 3500;
  "Travel fees per person ' =' Per Diem per capita' * 'Journey' + 'Avg ticket cost per head."
  "Per diem"="travel time" * 'Per Diem per capita' * 'no. People who travel. "
  "Ticket for depreciation" = 'Avg ticket cost per head' * 'no. People who travel. "
  'By Diem travel expenses allowance ' ="' + 'Ticket for depreciation;
  
  ELSE IF ("Eligible Grade" == 2)
  'Per Diem per capita' = 2200;
  "Travel fees per person ' =' Per Diem per capita' * 'Journey' + 'Avg ticket cost per head."
  "Per diem"="travel time" * 'Per Diem per capita' * 'no. People who travel. "
  "Ticket for depreciation" = 'Avg ticket cost per head' * 'no. People who travel. "
  'By Diem travel expenses allowance ' ="' + 'Ticket for depreciation;
  
  But same Script does not work in the calculation Manager... I know in the work of Manager Smart calculation list differently... can can pls let me know how we need to change to adapt to the calculation Manager

  Hello

  The person above didn't say that [[Smartlist.value]] returns a Boolean value, so you still have a Boolean value in your IF condition.

  Use

  IF ("Eligible Grade" == [[XXGradeEligibility._1_2]])

  instead.

  Thank you
  JM

• Could not find any planning application in calculation Manager

  Hi all
  
  I had configured Calculation Manager in hyperion 11.1.2. I logged in the workspace and select the calculation Manager * [workspace-> Navigator - > manage-> calculation Manager]. * through the these selections, I view system Wizard, because when I tried to extend the planning on the name tab, I am unable to find any planning application.
  
  Note: I have already created two planning applications.
  
  Kindly guide me how to overcome.
  
  
  Thanks and greetings
  Alizée

  Have you created any planning applications with the ability to use the calculation or business rules Manager?

  See you soon

  John
  http://John-Goodwin.blogspot.com/

• Could not find the calculation Manager option in the menu

  Hi all
  
  I have configured the calculation Manager in my machine [version: 11.1.2].] I can't find the calculation Manager option in the menu [Navigate-> administer-> calculation Manager].
  Calculation Manager is running. Kindly guide me to overcome.
  
  Thanks and greetings
  Alizée

  If calc manager has been installed after the configuration of the web, re-run the web comfiguration step. You may also cycle in the service of SST on the Foundation subsequently.

  Kind regards

  John A Booth

• Cannot access planning applications after you have added the calculation Manager

  Hi guys,.
  
  I have recently added/installed the Manager calculation on an environment running (EPMA, HPL, BSE) (11.1.2.1/win 2008r2 64 bit), which had prior to installation of the Calc Manager. EPMA and planning applications in classic and running.
  
  After that, I deployed the calc manager and configured the Web server on the server of the Foundation/epma only, I have 3 servers (Foundation, Manager of epma and calc), Essbase and planning.
  
  I have restrated the services and I can open the calculation Manager.
  
  When I try to open the existing applications of EPMA I get:
  
  [launch the journal]
  [< BEA-101020 > < [path of the module: HyperionPlanning ServletContext@6352948[app:PLANNING: / HyperionPlanning spec-version: 2.5 version: 11.1.2.0]] Servlet failed with Exception
  java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError
  at HspLogOn.Handle (unknown Source)
  at HspLogOn.doPost (unknown Source)
  at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:727)
  at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:820)
  to weblogic.servlet.internal.StubSecurityHelper$ ServletServiceAction.run (StubSecurityHelper.java:227)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.StubSecurityHelper.invokeServlet(StubSecurityHelper.java:125)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.execute(ServletStubImpl.java:300)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.TailFilter.doFilter(TailFilter.java:27)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:57)
  at HspValidationFilter.doFilter (unknown Source)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:57)
  to oracle.security.jps.ee.http.JpsAbsFilter$ 1.run(JpsAbsFilter.java:111)
  at oracle.security.jps.util.JpsSubject.doAsPrivileged(JpsSubject.java:313)
  at oracle.security.jps.ee.util.JpsPlatformUtil.runJaasMode(JpsPlatformUtil.java:413)
  at oracle.security.jps.ee.http.JpsAbsFilter.runJaasMode(JpsAbsFilter.java:94)
  at oracle.security.jps.ee.http.JpsAbsFilter.doFilter(JpsAbsFilter.java:161)
  at oracle.security.jps.ee.http.JpsFilter.doFilter(JpsFilter.java:71)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:57)
  at oracle.dms.servlet.DMSServletFilter.doFilter(DMSServletFilter.java:136)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:57)
  to weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext$ ServletInvocationAction.wrapRun (WebAppServletContext.java:3715)
  to weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext$ ServletInvocationAction.run (WebAppServletContext.java:3681)
  at weblogic.security.acl.internal.AuthenticatedSubject.doAs(AuthenticatedSubject.java:321)
  at weblogic.security.service.SecurityManager.runAs(SecurityManager.java:120)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext.securedExecute(WebAppServletContext.java:2277)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext.execute(WebAppServletContext.java:2183)
  at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletRequestImpl.run(ServletRequestImpl.java:1454)
  at weblogic.work.ExecuteThread.execute(ExecuteThread.java:207)
  at weblogic.work.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:176)
  >
  [End log]
  
  I tried to transfer the applications of EPMA exisitng but it has been abandoned with (HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error)
  
  I checked the ohs_component newspaper and saying some file is missing:
  
  [launch the journal]
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/bpmui/resources/bpm_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/wspace/resources/wksp_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/raframework/resources/cds_global_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/raframework/resources/tools_global_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/reporting_analysis/resources/fr/fr_web_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/planning/resources/hp_global_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/awb/resources/awb/awb_global_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/aif/resources/aif-global_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/calcmgr/resources/calcmgr_global_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/raframework/resources/changeManagement_global_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/EPMSystem11R1/common/epmstatic/webanalysis/resources/resources_global_en-US.js, referer: http://[server]:19000/workspace/index.jsp
  Failure for the request: / HyperionPlanning/servlet/HspAppManagerServlet? action = validate_workforce_or_capex & license_type = all & lang_id = en, Resp Code: [500]
  Failure for the request: / HyperionPlanning/servlet/HspAppManagerServlet? action = validate_workforce_or_capex & license_type = all & lang_id = en, Resp Code: [500]
  ....
  File does not exist: D:/Oracle/Middleware/user_projects/epmsystem1/httpConfig/ohs/config/OHS/ohs_component/htdocs/favicon.ico
  Failure for the request: / HyperionPlanning/servlet/HspAppManagerServlet, Resp Code: [500]
  
  [End log]
  
  
  Appreciate any help! and thanks in advance,
  Omar
  
  EDIT:
  I found that all the. JS files that are missing are actually there only without "-U.S.»
  
  Published by: Omar on January 23, 2012 15:17

  Have you tried to redeploy planning again?

  In theory, you should be able to install/configure additional products at a later stage if because they are produced of foundation it may have caused problems.

  See you soon

  John
  http://John-Goodwin.blogspot.com/

• Calculation Manager - import .csc script error

  Hello world
  
  I use EMP 11.2.1 with 11.2.0.2 Oracle repository.
  I'm new in the calculation Manager in planning, and I have a new problem.
  
  Using the Essbase administration console, I've created a script:
  
  UPDATECALC OFF SET;
  SET AGGMISSG ON;
  
  DIFFICULTY ("FY11", "Current", "Version_I")
  DIFFICULTY (@DESCENDANTS ("ACC_Property, Plan & equipment Net", 0), @DESCENDANTS ("NET Active ACC_Intangible", 0 "), @DESCENDANTS ('ACC_Investments', 0), @DESCENDANTS ('CapexNature', 0), @DESCENDANTS ('entity', 0), @DESCENDANTS ('period', 0))
  "MS_Inv_Dep"=@PRIOR ('MS_Inv_Dep', 1) + "MS_Inv_Val"-> @CURRMBR ('period')-> @CURRMBR ("entity") * "MS_Inv_ % Dep"->"BegBalance"-> @CURRMBR ('entity') / 12;
  ENDFIX
  DIM CALC ('account', 'Period', 'Measure');
  DIM CALC ('CapexNature', 'Entity');
  ENDFIX
  
  I want to import the .csc in calculation Manager but I get the error (translated from Italian):
  Error analysis of scenario. Check the script to column 7 of tier 1 in the row 1 column 12
  
  I can't understand what is wrong. Is there a log somewhere with more details?
  
  any help will be very appreciate as I am stuck on this too.
  Thanks to you all
  Daniela

  Are you really trying to import or copy and paste, have you tried to copy and paste the script in the calculation Manager.

  See you soon

  John
  http://John-Goodwin.blogspot.com/