caviggia files and dialog boxes (the role of Qt, Flex, etc) post-ADM

After a few years of having to put my development efforts well enough hold him, I'm now back in the thick of it and work to get my CS3 (and so - CS5) plugins updated to CS6 and beyond. With the disappearance of the ADM, it seems to be quite a wild west as far as UI goes. First (if I remember), we were encouraged to use Flash, Flex, and now HTML5. What most developers using, especially smaller developers?

Make a palette (now called a sign?) seems simple enough using native Xcode and Visual Studio, although there is a lot of extra coding for each platform. I see that the swirl sample plugin uses a file of .zxp in addition to the file of Betty. A caviggia file does not contain enough information for these controls, although it is apparently enough for the EmptyPanel project? I am not happy to find plenty of platform-specific reminders, etc., but do not want to submit my clients to an awkward two-step setup with the Extensions Manager process, either. Nor do I really had the time to become competent in several new programming languages.

My plugins often use modal dialog boxes, but I can't find an example of how to apply them without an Interface separate editor. I already has many palettes/panels that you almost an extra monitor just for all, so I'd rather not have to go Park that route - but if I have to. Am I correct in guessing this is better done in Xcode (somehow) with a view with a window in Interface Builder? I'm sure that Visual Studio is not easy or intuitive.

Golly, developing a plugin would be so MUCH easier if it was somehow possible using XOJO, which is simpler that C++ and completely cross-platform, including a great WYSIWYG editor, or even better if ADM dialog/control have been revised to work with the new user interface.

I would greatly appreciate comments and recommendations for porting to CS6 and beyond, keeping in mind I'm an illustrator of trade and a self-taught programmer who writes plugins in my "spare" time

TIA - Rick

Rick E Johnson wrote:

After a few years of having to put my development efforts well enough hold him, I'm now back in the thick of it and work to get my CS3 (and so - CS5) plugins updated to CS6 and beyond. With the disappearance of the ADM, it seems to be quite a wild west as far as UI goes. First (if I remember), we were encouraged to use Flash, Flex, and now HTML5. What most developers using, especially smaller developers?

I think that a lot of small developers simply abandoned, and which perhaps explains why this forum is so quiet now. Personally, I use Flex. When Adobe has HTML5, they said that they would have begun to remove flash products support Creative Cloud in the middle of 2014. There are also rumours that they would stop Extension Manager. I don't think they did either again.

Introducing HTML5 extensions | Adobe Developer Connection

Make a palette (now called a sign?) seems simple enough using native Xcode and Visual Studio, although there is a lot of extra coding for each platform. I see that the swirl sample plugin uses a file of .zxp in addition to the file of Betty. A caviggia file does not contain enough information for these controls, although it is apparently enough for the EmptyPanel project?

The zxp file is an Extension Manager installer for the installation of the part of the user interface of the plugin, which is built from other files. Betty files are only used to set the entry point and name of plugin. All the stuff of the user interface are now in mxml flex for files and html html5 files, or native code, as in EmptyPanel.

I am not happy to find plenty of platform-specific reminders, etc., but do not want to submit my clients to an awkward two-step setup with the Extensions Manager process, either. Nor do I really had the time to become competent in several new programming languages.

You can include the zxp UI file in another zxp file that also contains the plugin by creating a hybrid extension, so that it looks like the user that they install only one thing.

http://www.Adobe.com/devnet/creativesuite/articles/hybrid-extensions.html

My plugins often use modal dialog boxes, but I can't find an example of how to apply them without an Interface separate editor. I already has many palettes/panels that you almost an extra monitor just for all, so I'd rather not have to go Park that route - but if I have to. Am I correct in guessing this is better done in Xcode (somehow) with a view with a window in Interface Builder? I'm sure that Visual Studio is not easy or intuitive.

The suite of AIUser has functions for the display of message boxes (* alert functions) and also has functions to display the file picker and color picker dialog boxes. There is also one to get a string of the user (GetInputFromUser), but if you need anything with more controls, you have to build your own dialog boxes. I would recommend this doing flex/HTML5 rather than as a native window to maintain the look and feel of the Illustrator.

Golly, developing a plugin would be so MUCH easier if it was somehow possible using XOJO, which is simpler that C++ and completely cross-platform, including a great WYSIWYG editor, or even better if ADM dialog/control have been revised to work with the new user interface.

Yes, Adobe could simply write a conversion layer to convert WMD in which that is the language of the INTERFACE now takes their fancy, but instead, they decided it would be best to plugin developers to rewrite their code whenever they decide to change the user interface.

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