Doesn't have to start Windows user profile Service
Hello.. When turn on the laptop, the user profile could not connect to windows... How can I fix...
Thank you..
See this post - http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-system/logging-on/4c9045a4-2ca3-4384-afc2-c17b2f725f47 - if it's the same problem there are a few suggestions to try to including a restore safe mode.
I do not know what causes this problem, but it seems quite common.
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Then the machine disconnects me and returns to the request for the password screen. Unable to get beyond this point.This error can usually be fixed by following the steps below. All this requires a certain level of computer skills. You know better and that take the machine to a competent local computer tech (not a type of BigComputerStore/GeekSquad place) is the best solution for you.
1 log on to a different user account with administrative privileges. If you neglected to make an account additional administrative steps 2-3. Otherwise, continue to step 4. See also General information on setting up the accounts of users at the end of this post.
2 in Mode safe boot. This, by repeatedly pressing the F8 key as the computer starts. That you will get to the menu on the right where you can use your arrow key to select Mode safe [Enter]. The built-in Administrator account is disabled by default in Windows 7. However, if no other administrative accounts exist on the system it can be activated. If this is the case, you will see an icon for the administrator on the homescreen mode without failure. Login to the administrator.
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NET user administrator / Active: Yes [Enter]
[Note: do not enter the brackets!]
If you do not have an installation DVD (only have a recovery disk), the computer mftr. may have given you the option to repair the system Windows 7 (not a system recovery!) in the menu diagnosis. This menu of diagnosis is the same one where you can choose Safe Mode. Or you can make a bootable DVD of Windows 7 repair of the file on this link:
http://NeoSmart.net/blog/2009/Windows-7-system-repair-discs/
Note: All the Neosmart recovery disk downloads are torrent files. There is a good explanation of the torrent on the site Web of Neosmart files. You will need a torrent as muTorrent client to get the files. Torrent client will download the .iso file with which to create the bootable DVD. If you create the bootable DVD in an older operating system, you need third-party burning like Nero, Roxio or free ImgBurn software to burn the .iso image image file, not in the form of data. Windows 7 can burn the .isos natively.
Now, remove the rescue DVD you made, restart windows system and log into the built-in Administrator account, you enabled.
4. try a system restore to when things worked. If you can log in to your user account, you are finished. Otherwise, continue to step 5.
5. the critical files are under % systemdrive%\users\user-account\ntuser. The ntuser.dat file is actually a registry hive. Run Regedit high and select HKEY_USERS and "load hive" in the menu. Now, go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList
There is a line for each profile. If a profile is bad, check:
(a) that the name of the key does not stop in ".bak" (remove .bak If it)
(b) that the RefCount value is 0 (change it if it is different)
(c) that the State value is 0 (change if different)Make the necessary changes, close Regedit and try to connect as this user.
6. If that doesn't solve your profile, it is corrupt. When you do that, you should make a new Standard user account and copy your data to it. Do not delete the old account until you have recovered data you need!
Once everything works, go to the additional administrative account you will be made by the suggestions below and disable the administrator account integrated yet for security reasons:
Start Orb > Search box > type: cmd
When cmd appears in the above results, right-click and choose "Run as Administrator" [OK]. Now, you will get the command prompt. At the command prompt, type:NET user administrator / active: No. [Enter]
Exit the command prompt.
General recommendations for creating users in Windows 7
You absolutely don't want to have only one user account. Like XP, Vista and all the other modern operating systems, Windows 7 is a multi-user system with integrated system of accounts as default Administrator and comments. These accounts should be left alone because they are part of the structure of the operating system.
In particular, you do not want account only one user with administrator privileges in Windows 7 because the administrator account integrated (normally only used in emergencies) is disabled by default. If you use as an administrator for your daily work, and this account is corrupt, things will be difficult. It is not impossible to activate the built-in administrator to rescue things, but it can be more work you want to do. Better not to put you in a bad situation at first.
The user account that is for your daily work must be a Standard user, with the extra administrative user (call it something like 'CompAdmin' or 'Tech' or similar) only it for elevation purposes. As a user Standard is recommended for security reasons and will help protect your computer against infections. After you have created "CompAdmin", connect to it and change your normal user account Standard. Then log on to your regular account.
If you want to go directly to the desktop and ignore the Welcome screen with the icons of the user accounts, you can do this:
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Click continue (or provide an administrator password) when you are prompted by UACUncheck "users must enter a user name and password to use this computer". Select a user account to connect automatically by clicking on the account you want to highlight and press OK. Enter the password for this user account (when it exists) when you are prompted. Leave blank if there is no password (null).
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I couldn't use my own laptop for six months. Whenever I try to connect to my profile (profile/ONLY the Administrator profile), it gives me this:
"Unable to connect to a windows service. Windows could not connect to the service user profile service. This problem prevents standard users to log on to the system. As an administrator, you can view the system event log to see why the service did not respond. »
The error itself didn't come for two days now, but the problems still present themselves:
-My personal profile seems gone.
-Impossible to connect to the internet (my connection is fine, I use another laptop on the network even in the same House now)
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I tried the solutions that have been everywhere online and none of them worked for me. Help, please? I'd like to have my laptop back...
Additional info: Im using a laptop Windows 7 Dell Inspiron (1564) and there is no point of restoration since before the error. I tried the Regedit fix and it didn't work and it doesn't let me delete the profile owner / administrator as to make a new one.
To correct this corruption of user profiles, consult a guide to recovery of lost password Windows 7 Home Premium account user, can't connect, connection problem
Him begins the article with some basic steps you can take and then work upwards through more complicated methods where the easiest do not solve the problem. Please read the intro, but I think it will be the 8 method which solves your problem. Follow the precautionary measures later in the thread as well.
You could be up & running again within an hour, probably less.
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