Hierarchy of keywords problem

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• Keywording problem 2.4 Lightroom and Photoshop CS4

  I am facing a problem with keywording 2.4 Lightroom and Photoshop CS4. When I export a batch of photos that have been keyworded in LR on the desktop, and then open a photo in PS I don't find that a single keyword when I look in the menu "file info".  Any ideas on how I could fix this or what I can do wrong.

  Thanks in advance.

  In the export, under metadata dialog box, make sure that you have checked the box to 'Write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy', in this way all of your keywords will be carried over to Photoshop.   Conversely, if you do not want your keywords or other metadata to show in Photoshop, then check the box for "minimize embedded metadata". I hope this helps.

• Question of hierarchy of keywords

  I created and imported a list of hierarchical keywords for Lightroom ensure the consistency of the tags of images on several computers and users. It works on Mac, but on PC, keywords that are higher in the hierarchy do not as they should be. For example, the tag Studio is put in place to apply the tag location as well when applied to an image, but it's not to do so. Any ideas?

  For example, the tag Studio is put in place to apply the tag location as well when applied to an image, but it's not to do so.

  Under Windows, take a test image and apply the keyword of Studio.  Then, in the Keywording Panel in the right-hand column of the library, the value Keyword Tags enter in keywords.  Studio must only show:

  

  Then, replace Keyword Tags keywords keywords & container.  Now the Studio and location should indicate:

  

  Finally, replace Keyword Tags Will Export.  Now, the Studio and location should indicate:

  

  If the location does not show, it means that one of the export of Studio or location attributes is undefined.  In the keyword list, double-click Studio - export containing keywords is set?  Now, double-click on location - is include on export set?

• How can I show only images with the tag specific higher in the hierarchy of keywords, not including sublevels?

  I use a lot the hierarchical keywords.  For example, the location of the World/Europe/Austria/Tirol/specific.  I sometimes attribute only a top-level keyword (example: Austria) of an image when I don't know any more details.  How can I show only the images that have the label that I select, but not those with levels of basements for this keyword?  Exactly as the choice in folders view to examine only a folder selected, but not subfolders.  There could be a complicated way to implement a smart collection that includes a keyword, but excludes images with more that this number of keywords, but that could be really intensive work.

  It's easy, but fairly obscure: in the library filter bar, select the keyword column.  Click on the 'Properties' button on the right, and then select display: flat.  Now painfully, scroll through the list and select the desired keyword:

  

• 5.3 in Keywords Lightroom hierarchy.

  I use Lightroom 5.3 on Win7 x 64. I'm having some problem during the hierarchy of keywords.

  As indicated in A, sometimes he's on full auto but as shown B several times it doesn't no and manual entry is required. People have the mention on the adobe forum, that he should not work but his works sometimes.

  Someone at - it had the same problem. -How do you manage even?

  

  In general, when there is only a single keyword with a given journal name, LR will remove the ancestor keyword when you fill the car and displaying the keyword.  In your example, there are two keywords with the name "AEPL" sheet, so when you type the keyword AutoComplete will give you the choice to choose between the keywords ("' AEPL < places"="" and="" "aepl=""> < people"). ="" but="" since="" there="" is="" just="" one="" keyword="" with="" the="" leaf="" name="" "flower"="" ("flower=""> < style"),="" lr="" supresses="" the="" ancestors=""> < style").  ="" but="" when="" you="" enter="" "flower",="" you="" are="" in="" fact="" selecting="" the="" keyword="" "flower=""> < style".  ="" you="" can="" verify="" this="" by="" selecting="" the="" image's="" thumbnail="" and="" then="" examing="" the="" keyword="" list="" pane="" --="" you'll="" see="" that="" "style=""> Flower" has a check next to him. ")

• Confusion of keyword hierarchy?

  I get very confused regarding the conduct of a hierarchy of keywords to export.

  For example, let's say I have the following hierarchy;

  People

  ↑ family

  ↑ Botella

  If I tag photo with 'Joe Bloggs', I would expect 'people', 'family' keywords and Joe Bloggs to export, correct?

  Now, for the confusion...

  In the options key word for 'people', 'export containing keywords' I checked. This means that all the photos with the keyword tag 'people' will also have the keywords 'family' and 'Joe Bloggs' added to them?

  I tried, and it doesn't seem to be the case. So, what is the purpose of "export containing keywords?

  Any help would be appreciated!

  Thank you very much

  Martin

  The word "container" is obviously what is confusing you.

  This means that the keywords above in the hierarchy. Given that the family goes beyond of Joe Bloggs, if you check "Export the words containing" family gets exported. If you check not 'export words containing' then the family does NOT get exported.

  Can someone explain in simple terms what 'export containing keywords' means? Particularly "containing"? In the above example, 'people' contains 'family' and 'Joe Bloggs', if it does not mean those that contain keywords for export, does that mean?

  In your example, contains is not the same as the container. In fact, they are opposed. A cereal box of rice krispies. What is container puffed rice? The box containing the puffed rice.

• Question of hierarchy for the keyword Lightroom 3

  I use primairly LR3 to follow the architectural photographs with many different style or maintained by keyword type designations.  A hierarchy of keywords can be Tudor > (included under the Tudor) symmetrical > Gabled (included in Tudor).  Often, I'll print contact sheets that include key words displayed in the form of photo information.  On what seems to be a completely random basis print keywords may or may not include the entire hierarchy.

  If I check Gabled include in/under Tudor I can have printed on my board contact Gabled > Tudor or just Gables.  Never is it same rest forever.  Certain keywords, symmetrical say can print as symmetrical > Tudor and always will do.  I can redo the keyword (remove and replace), and it may or may not contain the hierarchy now.

  Random action must be something I am or don't do, but have you tried thousands of times to get a consistent result with no luck.  My library of architecture has more than 126 k photos.  I used LR since the first version beta and been able to resolve or understand recent questions (if Adobe or mine).  This question has me and there appear to be no questions and answers on the subject (probably few people rely on the ability to print a string of keyword).  And Yes, there are several workaround solutions, but not how I should approach.

  Anyone, please?

  LR will only show the hierarchy of keywords if the keyword exists more than once in your list of keywords. If you have one "Gabled" keyword in the list, you will see only "Gabled" in your photo info.

  Marc

• How to revise the new hierarchy list of keywords

  My list of keywords present is simply a list of words with no hierarchy. After have exported them to a text file, it was noted that many simple words have brackets around them, for example [cat] rather than cat simply.  -What happened? Can I delete my current list and import a list of "clean"? How can I create a hierarchy with my current list?  Refers to a manual or a tutorial would be great. Thank you.

  If you have a list of words with no hierarchy, like the one below:

  Geography

  Europe

  Italy

  Campagnia

  Vesuvius

  Naples

  Pompeii

  If you export the keyword list to a file and modify the hierarchy as follows:

  Geography
  Europe
  Italy
  Campagnia
  Vesuvius
  Naples
  Pompeii

  everything would be fine if you did not have all the photos associated with these keywords initially, but if all keywords in the simple list of keywords were already associated with the photos, then after importing the list of keywords, the keywords in Lightroom would appear as follows:

  Geography

  Geography
  Europe
  Italy
  Campagnia
  Vesuvius
  Naples
  Pompeii

  Europe

  Italy

  Campagnia

  Vesuvius

  Naples

  Pompeii

  This is because Lightroom stores the path full of a hierarchy of keywords when this keyword is associated with a picture.

  Based on the above hierarchy, the keyword "Pompeii" can be associated with a picture in the following way:

  Pompei > Campagnia > Italy > Europe > geography

  or

  Pompeii

  So if you already have photos that have the keyword "Pompeii" linked from the list of words, this keyword is different from the key word "Pompeii > Campagnia > Italy > Europe > geography" and there is not all the photos associated with the latter.

  That said, if a hierarchy should be changed, it is best to do in Lightroom itself, by drag-and - drop and not not not doing an import/export the list of keywords.

  Note also that during the consideration of the hierarchies of keywords, it is preferable to assign only the keyword which is located at the bottom of the hierarchy to your photos, such as those above will be automatically inherited.

  In regards to the brackets around key words when you export a list of keywords, they mean the following:

  [Brackets] around a keyword means that the "include on export" is unchecked in the options of the keyword in the keyword tags. This keyword will not appear in the export of photos that have that keyword associated with them. The other special character used is between braces {} that define synonyms for a keyword. A hierarchy is simply defined by adding a tab for each level of the hierarchy.

  Here is an example:

  [geography] - this keyword will not be included in a exported pictures (its purpose is just to organize the hierarchy)

  Europe

  Italy

  Campagnia

  Vesuvius

  Naples

  Pompeii

  Sport - although this key word is also for the Organization of the hierarchy.

  It is more valuable and I decided that it should export with pictures

  running
  3km
  5km
  first race
  half marathon
  Football
  {Soccer} - this is a synonym for the word football

  If the square brackets [] have nothing to do with the hierarchy; It simply indicates the weather you want this keyword as exportable or not.

  Finally, a good use of the keyword import/export list is to add or remove these brackets, add synonyms for keywords existing, or add new keywords to the hierarchy, but NOT to change an existing hierarchy or create one based on the existing keywords.

  I hope this helps!

• Keywords in the Keywording Panel duplicate

  I have kind of a lack of knowledge about hierarchies of keywords already installed and used.  This issue is going to be less together.

  I will have imported all my photos in Lightroom already.  Their keywords are associated should be in the keyword Panel.  (I him did not yet.)

  Most of the imports, which are keyworded in Nikon View 6.0.0.  (I have not already no flat keywords list or hierarchical keyword list in Nikon View.)  I have these photos in Nikon View IPTC looking at a list of independent paper keyworded.  The rest of the recent photos imported is were keyworded inside Lightroom or Nikon View NX2 keyworded and imported.  [I haven't decided yet who I Lightroom or NX2 keyword... unless you have a suggestion.]

  The hierarchy of words keys will have made upward after that most of my photos have been imported...  In short, I'm trying to give you a future scenario of my workflow at this point so I can start to ask questions.

  I have read of people having problems with keywords in double being added to the Panel keyword list Lightroom after they get their hierarchy/list of keywords in place.  The following reflections on key words in double turn in a hierarchy of keywords, I have read and am not 100% clear on:

  "The problem with the hierarchical keywords is that they always end with key words child somehow reappear at the top level."  There are times when they re - import an image that is processed in another application.  Or when a child keyword group is duplicated in more than one part of the hierarchy.  Often because they changed the hierarchy at one point and imported an older file.  Or they changed the hierarchy on a laptop and then files the main PC.  Something still bothers the logical structure, they put in place.  So rather than continue with this problem, they are returned in a simple list in Lightroom. "

  If someone could mean what is above, so I'm 100% sure I think I know what he says?  Are there cases more I could get an unwanted duplicate keywords or keyword in the Panel?  So it's not a good idea to change the hierarchy after you get it set up?  How about additions?

  I fear now start a hierarchy!  Fear of problems it can cause in the future.  I like the idea, you can filter the search on a whole category or subcategory.  It is easier to zip down to find a keyword.  Especially with the 700 more keywords.  I'm afraid to impliment it.  Could someone explain to me?  Thank you very much for any information!

  Sandy

  Assignment: create a small catalogue with a few files and hierarchy of keywords as show you. Then assign pictures to Celina and some photos to Van Wert (or use any existing hierarchy you) and see what happens.

  Try also braque on the keyword Celina on the right in the list of keywords, and right arrow Panel will appear to the right of the number of photos that appear, click the right arrow.

• Keyword management catalogs

  Hello

  I think on the use of more than one catalog. Before I do, I want to make sure that I can work effectively with more of a catalog. I identified a problem area is keywords. Questions that come to mind are:

  1. To my existing keywords in the catalog of my second, I thought just export the existing catalog and import them in the catalogue of the second. But help LR said that export will export (only) the exportable keywords. How to export non-exportable keywords for example those I use to organize my hierarchy of keywords, but don't want to be attached to the photographs that I export? How to export my hierarchy of keywords (complete with the non-exportable keywords) so I can then import it into a different catalog?
  2. After I made a change to my keywords in a catalog hierarchy, how to propagate the change to the hierarchy of keywords in other catalogs?

  I stop here lest I get too complicated question.

  Any help is appreciated.

  See http://forums.adobe.com/message/4994754#4994754

• Why imported separated as keywords keyword synonyms?

  Hello and sorry if this question has been asked before (this is my first time in the forums, and I find them rather user-friendly).

  Currently, I'm trying to understand the keywords and hierarchies of keywords.

  I managed to create several keywords that include keywords and synonyms, for example, the top keyword to the page 'Rental' includes the keyword Sub 'Europe', and for that I entered the synonym "Europa" (German translation of 'Europe').

  Now, I apply the keyword 'Europe' to an image, to export the image and add the image exported to my catalog. And now Lightroom automatically adds "Europa" as distinct keyword to my list of keywords. This goes against the goal of hierarchies of keywords, because my list of keywords will soon be crowded again, and all the help sites I've come up to now talk about lists of keywords without clutter.

  So, my suspicion is that I'm doing something wrong. But I'm lost... someone can help?

  I checked the option "Write keywords as Lightroom hierarchy" when export - I thought that would mean my exported image will contain the same hierarchy of keywords and so there will be no new Word added to my list when you add this file exported to my catalog. But it doesn't seem to work...

  Any suggestions?

  Thank you very much!

  Cornelia - I wrote:

  Come on, Brett.

  This isn't a solution to the problems of Simone!

  She wants the full capacity of LR of hierarchies more synonymous keywords on any level. This should work if you export out of LR and returned. Especially if you share this picture with a different person.

  Your answer means that LR is unable to do this?  That the synonyms feature does simply not, because LR cannot mark a key word, exported as a synonym of another?

  Leaving aside the tricky question of WHY it would be immediately re - import an exported image - synonyms are intended to work at the breast of a data catalog despite she was absent as real keywords on an image.

  So physically it is not necessary to include synonyms outgoing or incoming, so that these can function properly while you are in the relevant catalogue. Like Collections, synonyms and interweaving of keyword are properties of a catalog; an image.

  An image that has a real key word, ' hooks in "all automatically – associated synonym behavior and conduct of hierarchy also.

  Including these 'virtual' keywords as keywords REAL export, means that they act as real keywords. For example, they are more synonymous, they are now full keywords full - so they will appear in the list of keywords.

  If you want synonyms or implicit hierarchy to be seen OUTSIDE Lightroom then - quite simply - do not include this in your output.

  If you wish to place the images on someone else in a way that still maintains complete catalog functions you have locally; You can select and export as catalog. Or you can provide a catalog model that already contains this structure. When they import your new image and its actual keywords, all related virtual synonyms and hierarchy will already be there, for them to hang.

• New to Lightroom. The search for keyword spelling work around...

  I just installed Lightroom and two keywording problems after importing the largest of my photos (almost 14 000 files) files.

  
  I was keywording in Bridge and found it much easier to type in the words. Used iView in the past, so don't worry much about spelling. iView show me different spellings used for a Word and I could choose the pictures, correct spelling and spelling errors has been corrected in the metadata of photos.

  
  1. in Lightroom, I select the pictures/photos with misspelled words, correct that the word and Lightroom will not accept the change, because there is already a keyword of the same name. If I delete the misspelled keywords (I guess I can?) then I have no idea how to find these photos and add the correct keyword.

  
  Just by writing this, I thought to put the words misspelled in a collection and then when the misspelled word is deleted, I still have pictures. I could drag the exact keyword for them. What is the best way to go? (I have not tried the collection function again).

  
  2 another problem frustrating: I do not use hierarchical keywording and Lightroom pulled my keywords in the hierarchical Keywords system. Now I have 'Place', 'People', etc that clutter my field. Is there a way to tell Lightroom I want to use the hierarchical system? Is there (please please please) a pretty quick way to get rid of all words as place and people I am not there? If there is a preference I'd before importing, I prefer to make a new catalog and re import rather than trying to find all the high fields to the page to remove.

  Peg

  Element of reference 1.

  In the library - the grid view Module

  Go to the keyword list Panel

  Select a misspelled word, and then click the arrow to the right of the keyword.

  Select all

  Click the checkbox to the left of the CORRECTLY spelled keyword to apply the correct spelling.

  Clear the check box to the left of the keyword spelled

  Delete the misspelled word.

  Files should only have the correctly spelt version

  Reference element 2

  Lightroom does not use a hierarchical strategy, unless you say so. If your images are as (from bridge, for example) with a hierarchy, it will be replicated. A keyword that is automatically set to receive the child keywords will have a little asterisk following the keyword. If you have one of these you can get rid of it by right click and uncheck "put new keywords inside this keyword.

  Before you delete keywords at a higher level, you want to make sure that you moved all the keywords lower level out of them. If you delete keywords at a higher level, he will kill the keywords of the child inside.  Keywords can be slid in or out of a hierarchy by dragging.

• Lightroom - update keywords

  Hello

  I was organizing my keywords into hierarchies and has found very beneficial.

  Is it possible that I can export my current keywords and do all the work of creating hierarchies, adding new keywords and then import to lightroom?

  If there is, what is the best way to do this?  Should which package I use?  My current images will lose their key words?

  Thank you very much

  fishalot, even if you export using the keywords, it is not really easy to create hierarchies in a text editor that is in Lightroom, and I think that when you import keywords, they are regarded as totally new keywords. So, as far as I know, the best approach is to continue to re - organize the hierarchy of keywords in Lightroom.

• Error adding keywords that already exist

  Hello.

  I am trying to add a single keyword to multiple photos to export.  It works on the first image, but fails on all images.  Is it possible to generate the keyword by testing the catalog to determine if the key already exists, and if not, then add it?

  Is there a way to do with/without first running through all the hierarchy of keywords from the catalog?

  Thank you

  In addition, if you know the keyword parent for the keyword you are looking for, you can use the parameter "returnExisting" of the catalogue: createKeyword() to create the keyword (if it does not exist) or return it (if it exists).

• Expand the window of keyword

  Hello

  Is there a way I can increase the size of the width of the window keyword? For the moment, it stops at a certain point, which means that I can't see the whole hierarchy.

  Thank you

  Paul

  Don't know Windows, but on a MAC, you can hold down the ALT/OPTION and drag the extremely large panels.  Not sure if this helps to see more of the hierarchy of keywords.  This is a clip from the screen the width of an iMac 27-inch with Lightroom, fill the screen.