LSI Logic LSI SAS vs parallel?
What is the difference between these two SCSI controllers available for VMS?
Should be chosen according to the what is the real underlying disk system (if there is real or not SAS disks) or has to do with the guest operating system?
Are there differences in performance between them?
no gain. SAS controller is required for MSCS 2008 and will be available only if vHardware is 7, but it's really the only time wherever you will use it. LSI Logic P is the controller of choice
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Mass strorage option ROM is set to EFI mode.
No matter what the settings, it does not start in Windows.
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The Z820 motherboard was faulty. A HP technician swapped the moherboard with a new one and now all is well again!
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Data sheet:
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Motherboard: ASUS P6X58D-E
Processor: Core i7 950
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hard drive: Western Digital WD5002AALX
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vmhba0 mpt2sas link-n/a sas.500605b002aa7ea0 (0:5:0.0) LSI Logic / Symbios Logic LSI2008
# vmkload_mod s mpt2sas | grep Version
Version: Version 10.00.00.00.5vmw, version: 799733, Interface: built 9.2: 1 August 2012
# vmkload_mod s mptspi | grep Version
Version: Version 4.23.01.00 - 6vmw, version: 799733, Interface: built 9.2: 1 August 2012
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Result of the installation
Message: The update completed successfully, but the system must be restarted for the changes to be effective.
Restart required: true
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Version: Version 16.00.00.00.1vmw, Build: 472560, Interface: built 9.2: February 28, 2013
# vmkload_mod s mptspi | grep Version
Version: Version 4.23.01.00 - 6vmw, version: 799733, Interface: built 9.2: 1 August 2012
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This starts to become just a little frustrating! :-)
I cannot conclude 100% but it seems to be a driver problem ESXi or the combination of firmware and driver.
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Hello!
It seems that VMware ESXi 5.5 have a conflict pilot with different controllers in the same machine at the same time.
I have been using the LSI AND the controller on the motherboard for extra drive supported.
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I have why it worked in the Debian and Solaris with disks on both controllers, but not in ESXi. I tried to level the firmware and drivers of LSI, but he will get unstable on me when using different types of controllers at the same time.
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I use this one. Works very well.
http://www.LSI.com/storage_home/products_home/standard_product_ics/sas_ics/lsisas1068/index.html
It is not in format flp. to make flp follow these steps.
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Once updated, I changed back to paravirtual and things were fine, at least with a tip upward.
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So sad.
Post edited by: EricNichols BSOD on Windows 10 10130 with sight agent 6.0.2 +.
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Utility of flashing SAS2 LSI Corporation
Version 18.00.0.00 (2013.11.18)
Copyright (c) 2008-2013 LSI Corporation. All rights reserved
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file server is connected to an Intel 520 FPS + DA cable to an Procurve switch
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or a 3801 LSI SAS HBA... but it's PCIe 1.1 and I don't know if this works with the theoretical maximum speed of 2 x 400MiB/s on LTO-6 devices.
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comments are welcome
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Torsten Hello,
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