Node failure scenario: Messages in NO PERSISTANTS distributed topics

Hello

In the case of a failure of a node in a cluster with a distributed subject, NO PERSISTANTS messages (which have been already published) are guaranteed to be delivered to the other nodes in the cluster active? I would particularly like to understand regarding the following

1. what would be the behavior of replication Desitributed topic (given that the messages are replicated to all members of topics)

2. what would be the behavior of the partitioned subject distributed (as the message is put only on one of the members of the topic... what happens if the node hosting the subject Member goes down)

3. does specifying the unity of the order in the JMS message has any effect on behavior in above two scenarios of topic (like WebLogic JMS redirects messages with the same disorder unit and to have a distributed target for the same destination Member distributed... what happens if this particular destination member node crashes)

4. made using topicMessagesDistributionMode = a copy - by application of the MDB has any effect on behavior? (As with a copy-by application, that a single MDB instance for an application across the cluster Gets the message... What happens if the node (in which runs the particular instance of MDB consuming messages) goes down)

Just to emphasize again, I speak only the case of Non-persistent messages.

Please notify.

Kind regards
Arif
3. If I understand correctly, with unit-of-order, weblogic places the message in the members as one destination... However, because it is a distributed replicated, this member of the particular destination will forward the message to all other members distributed about destination... So, in this case, if the node hosting the original member of destination (where the message was set by jms weblogic) goes down... Then where messages will still be available for the consumption of other members of destination of the subject?

Yes, the order and unique semantic treatment of PUA in scenarios is kept on a basis by Member. Of course, we assume that the topicMessagesDistributionMode is the compatibility or the one-per-server copy mode. See the answers to the following question for the one-copy-by-app mode.

4. an MDB (with "topicMessagesDistributionMode" = "one-copy-by-app") is deployed on a distributed subject replicated cluster. If a node goes down, the message get delivered to the MDB instances on other nodes?

My current understanding is that with one-copy-by-app mode, each MDB listen to messages on the distributed subject local member of destination with a special message selector (set by weblogic JMS) so that it only retrieves the local messages (and not forwarded messages)... Does this mean that when a node goes down (which included the Member of destination where the message has been original), then the corresponding replication/forward messages cannot be consumed by the MDBs on other nodes in the cluster and the message is essentially lost. This interpretation is correct?
Your interpretation is correct.

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