7 d & 580EX

When I use my 580EX flash with my 18-135 STM, the flash shows that 28-105.  Is this normal?

Yes

There is a reflector inside the head of the flash which slides closer or more away from the lamp Flash to control if the flash creates a narrow or wide propagation of light. The flash can automatically move the reflector (you can also put it in manual mode) to match the goal - but those are the limits of travel.

There is a sign of the scale-diffuser stowed in the upper part of the flash (with the bounce card). You can remove the Panel and rotate it down in front of the light to create a wider dissemination.

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