ACR vs Lightroom

I have Photoshop CS3 and Lightroom 2.x (and beta 3).  I just bought a camera that is not supported in CS3 but Lightroom can open RAW files.  Lightroom warns me when I open a RAW for the PS file I have the version of ACR will not open the file.  That suggests to me that if I had CS4 ACR would treat the conversion rather than LR.

So my question is: is there a difference between the LR RAW conversion and conversion RAW ACR?  I get the best quality conversions if I buy CS4?

Thanks in advance for any clarification.

-Arlin

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So my question is: is there a difference between the LR RAW conversion and conversion RAW ACR?

There is a big difference between Camera Raw 4.x tends in Photoshop CS3 and Lightroom 2.x based on camera Raw 5.x found in Photoshop CS4. It is because there is a difference of full version between the ACR 4 (Lightroom 1.x) pipeline and ACR 5 pipeline (Lightroom 2.x)...

However, you will get the correct rendering even if you treat Lightroom 2.x as you would with the same version of Camera Raw 5.x update. So if you use LR 2.5, the treatment would be the same as ACR 5.5.

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    Nicole: You're welcome.

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    Nicole: Fred, it was really nice talking with you.

    Nicole: Thank you contact Adobe. Good Bye.

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    What I wanted to do instead was indeed withdraw people from the photo with Photoshop, but without these changes in DNG.

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