Airport Extreme Double NAT / AT & T NVG510

My Internet connection has worked very well for several years, until recently, when the simple DSL modem (a Motorola 2210-02 - 1ATT) provided by AT & T began to experience intermittent outages. Initially, the DSL modem would lose the line for a minute or two at a time. But within 48 hours, the line started to drop during the hours in a row (synchronization failed line DSL). Whenever the modem has lost the line, my Airport Extreme (the router on my home network), shows a "Double NAT" alert. But whenever the modem 2210-02 DSL connection has been restored, alert the Airport Extreme's "Double NAT" disappeared.

After a day and a half problems, the line is down for so many hours that I finally called AT & T to check the status of our range. So, AT & T sent a technician who concluded fairly quickly the 2210-02-1ATT was the problem and replaced it with a modem/router combo (manufacturing date 11/2014) NVG510 (with router function disabled in the settings).

The speed that results and the quality of the connection via the NVG510 were good, so the tech packed 2210-02 in his bag and left. But now I get that alert "Double NAT" once again on my Airport Extreme, even if the home network is apparently working as well as it ever did.

The only setting I changed was on the NVG510 - as soon as the technology has left, I turned off the WiFi on the NVG510 function because I want the Airport Extreme to my router, same as always.

So far so good. After 24 hours with the NVG510 in place, the network worked well with no major hiccups, the only exception being the status of "Double NAT" alert displayed in Airport utility. In fact, had I have not bothered to watch Airport utility, I don't know that there was a "Double NAT" alert

Everything on the side of the NVG510 LAN is identical to what was in place with the 2210-02...

Airport Extreme 802.11ac works as "router" with the WiFi signal on another floor via an Airport Extreme 802.11n wireless (5th generation).

The WiFi signal provides web access to some desktop Mac, AppleTV, devices, mobile phones, tablet computers and a laptop (laptop is the only device that uses a VPN).

The network on the Airport Express 802.11ac, who serves as router, is "DHCP and NAT." and the "5th Gen," which extends the wireless network, set mode "bridge."

After hours of searching online, I understand that this problem is surely the result of the NVG510, and that this problem exists for at least five years. I've read at least a few tens of different ways to try a fix via adjustments to settings, but none reached the level of a real solution.

Although my network is no problem at the moment, I'm afraid that "Double NAT" alert is a sword of Damocles that will eventually crash my network, a situation I like to avoid. I dared not yet connect the laptop with a VPN to the router, but out of fear that will bring down the whole network.

I'd rather solve the "Double NAT" proactively.

Is there a a way to eliminate the Double "Nat" by adjusting the parameters of the NVG510 and/or the Airport Extreme?  Or, my fears of future problems and a VPN disaster are unfounded?

Thank you

According to your comments, the NVG510 has not been reconfigured as a bridge and is providing routing functions (NAT & DHCP).

To resolve the Double NAT is the new Motorola NVG510 or AirPort Extreme needs to be reconfigured under a bridge. The simplest solution would be to reconfigure the extreme. In this way, the NVG510 can handle NAT & DHCP services required by clients of network connected to the extreme to access the Internet.

To reconfigure the extreme as a gateway, use the AirPort Utility, as follows:

  • Run the AirPort Utility and then select the extreme.
  • Click on Extreme and then, select Edit.
  • Click the network tab to select it.
  • Change the router Mode to: Off (bridge Mode)
  • Click on update and allow extreme restart.

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    Since you will have a Double NAT on the network, there is no guarantee that things will not work properly. Sometimes you can get away with a Double NAT error on a simple network, but it can cause difficulties of communication between devices on the network and the difficulties with Internet connections as well.

    If you have a console online game and want to play interactively on the Internet, the Double NAT error will not allow this to happen.  Similarly, if you plan to use Back To My Mac or Port Forwarding for access over the Internet to remote devices, the Double NAT will allow these connections probably not happen.

    We do not recommend a Double NAT Setup, but we have some ideas on how to do it. There of probably no harm in trying the Double NAT configuration if you have the time and are willing to experiment to see if it peut work for you, I'm sorry, but there are no guarantees here.

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