Color management, (again!)

I know this has been discussed before, but I've yet to find anything that can help me solve the problem. It starts to become a serious obstacle to the professional work, any thoughts would be appreciated.

I have the eye1Display2 and a Gretag Macbeth checker color and regularly calibrate my monitor profiles and the camera. I work with CS5.  The colors in Photoshop are always away from other applications outside of it. Flickr even. I guess it's because of the color management, but I even turned off which, (which gives me a warning message now whenever I bring in an image), and the problem persists. Worse still, the colors displayed by working with RAW images are now different from those in the main interface, and even in this case, they are NOT the same outside of Photoshop, while all other packages are compatible.  My solution right now is to save and check in the other packages, but is simply not good enough for the curves, HSL adjustment, etc.  I do a lot of work with skintones, which are particularly critical of color.

So my questions are - how to disable management of the colors of Photoshop completely so it is not apply any research at all to the color of any module?

If I want TO apply the color profile of the i1Display and software X - Rite Color Checker Passport, how can I know what it is actually and carried through RAW processing to the rest of the package?

Thank you very much

Albert Hastings

ahast42696 wrote:

I have the eye1Display2 and a Gretag Macbeth checker color and regularly calibrate my monitor profiles and the camera. I work with CS5.  The colors in Photoshop are always away from other applications outside of it.

If what you're saying here, it's a fully color managed application as Photoshop, respects the color that is different from applications non-management of colors, that's just what you should expect.

There is no such thing as color management throughout the system.  It works just like that.  Individual applications do (or not do or even partially) - color management.

This is the key:

Color management applications perform transformations on the colors displayed in the color further absolute precision at the expense of consistency with non color applications.

Corollary:

Some applications of the wrong color management to interpret some color profiles.  It happens.

Developing that Dag said in the post above, #1 no transformation takes place if the document profile corresponds to the display profile.

Then... IF you work with documents in the workspace color sRGB IEC61966 - 2.1 (aka just 'sRGB' for the purpose of this discussion) and IF you want to display these images to match as much as possible between applications of color management and non-management of color applications, there is only one possible direction, you can take:

1. set up your system to associate the profile sRGB provided by the system to your monitor (s). This is done via the OS configuration dialog boxes.

2. adjust your monitor (s) to match as closely as possible sRGB color space.  Some monitors were manufactured to be close, and others have the ability to be defined in this way.  Still others may not be directly defined in this way, but the response of the system can be changed with the basic controls (brightness, contrast, saturation, etc., as well as adjustments of curves in the video card drivers).

When the above conditions are met, you will see the following results:

Documents image of a. sRGB, which constitute the majority of those published online and are usually the default output of digital cameras, will always appear the same in applications non-management of colors and color (Photoshop).  Depending on your needs, you can configure Photoshop to work in sRGB color space to create your own images (he is actually of default Photoshop).

B. in Photoshop and other applications of color management, you will get a good in the whole management of the colors of the image documents in other color spaces, although you'll see just the colors outside the gamut (i.e., a larger color space colors and which can only be displayed in the sRGB color space) as fully saturated and therefore somewhat distorted.  In practice, most of the colors in most of the images raise the sRGB gamut.

C. you will see accurate color management by the partially * Internet Explorer 9 color management, within the constraints of point B above.

D. given that profile sRGB color that comes with all Windows systems is well trained and is the default, there is almost zero chance that an application of color management will be wrong interpret it and produce the twisted color.  This misinterpretation happens with other profiles, a surprising number of times, sometimes even with profiles generated by good quality color measurement and profiling of the devices.  Color profiles are not negligible, and some software can simply use profiles.

The real thing (significant) in this strategy is actually make your monitor to closely match the sRGB color space without using a monitor profile.  However, it IS possible to get close and for many people 'pretty close' + 'uniform between apps' is better than ' perfectly accurate in Photoshop but the mismatch other apps.  It can even be verified with a profiling feature to help the development.

-Christmas

* IE9 interprets the color profile of your document and always turns within sRGB color, regardless of your monitor profile.  So the only way to make the colors come out right is to have the monitor actually BE sRGB.  So far, unfortunately, it seems that ie10 in Windows 8 follows this same strategy of "half-cooked.

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