DMVPN behind a NAT
Hello
is there a way to configure a router as a router spoke, where it doesn't have a PUBLIC IP address?
It's like this:
Spoke router-> private-> NAT-> Internet-> DMVPN Hub router router IP
I tried on 12.3 (14) T7.
There is no problem to have talks DMVPN behind NAT.
Empty:
Usually on a device with State there is no need to allow all ports for inbound traffic.
However, UDP/500 and UDP/4500 will be required if you use the DMVPN or GRE tunnel protection if you don't protect it with IPsec.
I suggest trying on a device with a more recent software. 12.4 (15) Tx or 12.4 (24) Tx?
Marcin
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Attached files:
I attach the following files: a drawing of configuration called drawing-Lab - Setup.jpeg | All files for HUB1, BRANCH1 and BRANCH2 ISP-ROUTER configs, named respectively: HUB1.txt, BRANCH1.txt, BRANCH2.txt and ISP - ROUTER .txt
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Type to abort escape sequence.
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.....
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If the IOS Firewall does not inspect the true private source IP address that can be, in this case: 192.168.110.2. He sess on the public IP address.
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Type to abort escape sequence.
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Just saw your message, I hope this isn't too late.
I don't know what your exact problem, but I think we can work through it to understand it.
One thing I noticed was that your NAT ACL is too general. You need to make it more
specific. In particular, you want to make sure that it does not match the coming of VPN traffic
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UDP 80.10.10.2:4500 80.10.10.2:4500 110.10.10.2:4500 110.10.10.2:4500Instead use:
Nat extended IP access list
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allow an ip
deny ip any any newspaperIf you can use:
Nat extended IP access list
deny ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 connect
IP 192.168.0.0 allow 0.0.255.255 everything
deny ip any any newspaperAlso, I would be very careful with the help of the "log" keyword in an ACL, NAT.
I saw problems.
What are the IOS versions do you use?
Try to make changes to the NAT so that you no longer see the entries of translation NAT
for packages of NAT - T (UDP 4500) in the table of translation NAT on the hub. It may be
This puts a flag on the package structure, that IOS Firewall and NAT is
pick up on and then do the wrong thing in this case.
If this does not work then let me know.
Maybe it's something for which you will need to open a TAC case so that we can
This debug directly on your installation.
Mike.
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