Generation of data and acquisition of high frequency problem

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  I collect tensions and corresponding currents via a card PCI-6221. While acquiriing data, I would like to see the values on a XY graph, so that I can also check current vs only voltage/current / time. In addition, data should be recorded on the acquisition.

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