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• vCenter Lab Manager 4.0.4 5?

  I know that there is no support for Lab Manager 4.0.4 and vCenter 5, but it's going to work? Or when it will be supported? I see no reason why there would be a problem if I leave my host ESX 4.1 cluster.

  Has anyone tried this before?

  vCenter 5 + Lab Manager 4.0.4 won't work.  There, questions that I saw people who did the upgrade without checking compatibility.  Since Lab Manager is abandoned, I'm not expecting a major update to support vCenter 5.0.

  One option is to divide it into 2 environments... 1 specially for vCenter to LabManager and then a 2nd which will vCenter 5 which is a new installation you can grow out.

  Best regards

  Jon Hemming

• Move a Lab Manager in vCenter only

  I'm trying to migrate all the VMS in vCenter Lab Manager for. During a tutorial another engineer was asked if he could come back a vm Lab Manager troublesome to vCenter. Despite most machines Virtual Lab Manager being linked clones, the move is simple by exporting the virtual machine of vCenter or install a stand-alone client on the virtual machine? The virtual machine being a linked clone done this more complicated process?

  You should have no problems to export the VM in Vcenter.  Completeness of the tree for this virtual machine will be exported.

• Lab Manager 4.0.2 upgrade process

  Say for 4.0.2 release notes

  "before you can upgrade Lab Manager, you must upgrade the vCenter server.

  See the Lab Manager 4.0 Installation and Upgrade Guide for

  more information. »

  I watched the Installation and the Guide to upgrade for more information, but nothing is mentioned about the upgrade to vCenter 4.1.  Lab Manager 4.0.2 does support vCenter 4.0 Update1/2?  I think so but I would make sure before that I upgrade.   Here are my planned upgrade steps:

  1. put at manager level of laboratory 4.0.1 to 4.0.2

  2. turn to level vCenter 4.0 U1 to 4.1

  3 upgrade ESX 4 U2 to ESX 4.1

  is this supported?

  Director of the laboratory of 4.0.2 is backward compatible with vCenter 4.0 u2/u1/GA

  Regarding the upgrade process, unless you are already on a 64-bit operating system, then there's leg work to do the upgrade to vCenter himself.

  If you are already there, then it is fine.  LM may be the first in this situation.

  If you need to migrate vCenter, so long that the INVESTIGATION period change in fact... it is good.  If it does not change, you can tell the LM Wizard to change the IP address of vcenter.

  If you forget to change it, you can simply update the web UI of LM.

  overall, LM must be quite tolerant changes when you go in LM 4.0.2.

  Kind regards

  Jonathan

  B.SC., RHCT, VMware vExpert 2009

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• Lab Manager 4.0 Upgrade Plus new vSphere Env Migration

  Current environment

  -Lab Manager 3.0.1

  U2 - VirtualCenter 2.5

  ESX - hosts running ESX 3.5 U2

  -All stores data on a San

  Will be a new separate building Lab Manager 4.0.1. Server from scratch that connects to a U1 vCenter Server 4.

  The plan is to migrate users to the former LM 3.0 installation to the new LM 4.0/vSphere 4 environment that will also have all new ESX host.  We will not pass original hosts to the new CR.

  Is there a way to copy or move the existing channels of the VM to the new separate environment?

  Or would we need to plan to export the models to a file server, and then import them into the new LM 4.0 environment and have users to start from scratch with these models?

  For any info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

  Concern: Data store mappings in LM are deleted once all hosts are posted?

  No, virtual machines are stored in the database and mapped on the data store itself (and not on the host).  As long as the path of the UUID/NFS remains the same on different hosts, you should be fine.

  > Concern: LM 3 is not "supported" with VC 4, but he at least see and connect to it?

  It's REALLY OBSCURE.  He can't let you connect at all, or to connect then say guests are not supported.  I've seen some clients get totally rejected and others which were broadcast in the config not taken in charge even when (as vCenter has been updated in the background and LM was not touched).  they did not actually change the address info and click 'OK '.

  Concern: Assuming 3 LM can at least connect with VC 4, it will be able to reach the resource containing the host ESX 4 pools?

  I think so, but as long as the Lab Manager database indicates that you use the right IP/Username/Password for vCenter... that should be enough to make Lab Manager 3 to 4 and do use the new vCenter for the Initialization Wizard.

  Kind regards

  Jonathan

  VMware vExpert 2009

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• Lab Manager acceleration kits / required licenses?

  Hello!

  We are currently using ESXi and plan to move to centralized test Lab Manager lab. The estimates are based on the acceleration kit that used to be available at about 4-5 k €, which seemed to include VI 3 licenses that are required for the Lab Manager to run on top of ESXi (or if whatever the basis ESXi does not support).

  Now I can't find the acceleration kits more 'Buy Lab Manager', instead I find licenses for Lab Manager only.

  Now I read everywhere that the vCenter is necessary and even messages that describe that vCenter foundation is not sufficient to run the laboratory Manager. However no official 'that's what you need to do if you want to get Lab Manager' running.

  To be honest, if the acceleration kits were gone for good, licensing begins to be as clear as some States large company in their regulatory policy, "must be this version of the database server", but do not worry to mention what license you need for the said server or background Windows server...

  I would like to know the price of 'minimum' (to continue) Lab Manager on top of bare metal, start-up costs and maintenance renewals when the initial support runs.

  With regard to reading, 2 or 4 processors as it seems to count.

  BR,

  Kalle

  Sorry, that seems so difficult.  To sort through all of this:

  • Lab Manager requires ESX Standard or Enterprise.  It does not currently run on ESXi, but it's on the Roadmap (cannot discuss dates here).

  • Lab Manager 3 requires vCenter (Lab Manager 2 does not work).

  • vCenter Foundation is untested, but should work (but can only manage up to 3 knots).

  • ESX Foundation is not supported by the Lab Manager.

  • The laboratory director is authorized by the node (the server Lab Manager is free).

  • Lab Manager Server runs on Windows Server 2003 and can run on a virtual machine

  • VirtualCenter runs on Windows 2000, Windows XP Professional, or Windows Server 2003 and can also run on a virtual machine.

  Thus, the minimum subscription is:

  • ESX Standard for two processors

  • Lab Manager for two processors

  • vCenter Foundation

  • Windows licenses you need for the Lab Manager server and VirtualCenter Management Server.

  Installing vCenter Management Server and server Lab Manager on the two virtual machines on this host ESX and use their local drive to store the virtual computer images.

  Such a system doesn't scale well, of course.  When you size, you will need to add the following:

  • Shared storage (NFS, iSCSI, or FC)

  • More ESX and Lab Manager licenses

  • vCenter Standard or Premium, instead of Foundation.

  Hope this helps,

  Steven

• Is it possible to personalize the web pages of Lab Manager?

  I have a PoC Lab Manager 3.0.1 and something that would be very helpful is to customize the preview (preferably in the world) page to change topics in the Documentation section and Support that would be more relevant to my client - there is a good Sharepoint environment and adding a few best practices/guides (along with local support manuals copies) and changing the 'Support' link for the internal incident logging system. I would like to also delete or at least change the color of, "Please activate SupportLink to allow these statistics" since the text in red is usually not all right, and in this Lab Environment Manager will not send anything VMware.

  Is it possible, or are all the structures of web page hard-coded and locked? I searched the server for specific texts ("get help" 'videos' etc.) with no luck, so I assume the worst.

  Thanks in advance

  Sorry, this is not supported at this time.  I'll file a feature request for you.

• Known issues with running ESX, vSphere and vCenter Lab Manager on a Windows Server?

  I'm on a project that is currently planned to install ESX, vSphere and vCenter Lab Manager on a Windows 2003 R2 Enterprise x 64.  Anyone know if there are known problems with their performance on a beefy Server?

  http://communities.VMware.com/community/VMTN/vSphere?view=overview and take a look at podcasting.

• Lab Manager 3 and vCenter Server 4?

  Lab Manager 3.0.2 will work if I upgrade Virtual Center to version 4?  (I realize ESX 4 is not supported, was impossible to find out what anyone simply upgrading to vCenter Server.)

  Right now I have 2 groups managed by a server vCenter Server, a 'production' and another for Lab Manager.  If I upgrade my production cluster to vSphere, can I maintain a separate vCenter server with the old version to support Lab Manager?

  http://www.VMware.com/support/labmanager30/doc/releasenotes_labmanager302.html

  Lab Manager requires VMware Infrastructure 3 Standard or Premium

  (VMware ESX 3.5 Update 1, update 2, update 3 or update 4 and)

  vCenter Update 2.5 1, 2 update, update 3 or update 4).

• VCenter Lab Manager 4.1 Linked mode

  Hello

  What is someone using a vCenter Lab Manager 4 configured in bound mode?  I would like to activate the connected mode, searching for traps that everyone can share.

  Thanks in advance

  No traps.  Bound Mode is independent of Lab Manager.

  Please be aware, Lab Manager works with exactly a vCenter and a data center object inside this vCenter.

  So once you activate the bound mode, you won't see all the resources here.

• Lab Manager and VMFS 5?

  I know Lab Manager only is not supported in vSphere 5 but I have a cluster where some hosts run LabManager.  I've updated vCenter and LabManager still works very well.  I want to spend the VMFS, so there are 2 possible scenarios

  -Put level all VMFS volumes, will be this LM break?

  -Upgrade only the LUNS than regular machinery of the host and leave the LUNS that are dedicated to LM as VMFS3.  This will cause any type of conflict?

  Hello.

  I don't think that you can actually get these 5 VMFS volumes, as all the guests, access to the database must support VMFS-5. This means that only 5 ESXi hosts will work.

  Good luck!

• vCenter 4.1 update level & Lab Manager

  Hello

  I upgraded to vcenter 4.1 and have begun upgrading our 4.1 esx host.  We have a Lab Manager cluster and I got to spend 2 to 3 hosts for ESX4.1... Currently, all Lab manager VMs are running on the ESX host 4.0 remaining in the cluster of Lab Manager.  I'm unable to migrate virtual machines to host 4.0 to ESX 4.1 two other guests offshore in this cluster to improve this host to esx 4.1.  When I select a VM to migrate, I get the following after error message select a host ESX4.1:

  "A general system error.  The virtual machine requires labmanagerhostserver/system.service.vmware.vsla labmanagerhostserver service, which is not available on this host "."

  Before the upgrade to vcenter 4.1, Director of the laboratory has been upgraded to 4.0.2

  Any hellp to resolve the above error is much appreciated.

  Sorry to hear that.

  I myself have strange problems with 4.1.

  I have stopped using 4.1 at the moment and re - install 4.0 on all new blades instead.

• Relationship of Lab Manager and vSphere

  My shop starts to think about his Lab Manager architecture design, and we have some questions about the relationship between vSphere and Lab Manager.

  (1) can Lab Manager leverage of resources defined outside its host vSphere environment?

  (2) must LM be hosted in a specific vSphere environment to effectively exploit the scene-to-production in this environment vSphere features?  In other words, what is the impact to the staging functionality when you move a virtual machine from a workspace of LM to a VSphere environment that does not host the environment of LM?

  The reason we ask is because we already have production environment vSphere, and we plan to install vCenter Lab Manager within this environment or install LM in a separate vSphere environment.

  Thank you.

  Tim

  (1) the laboratory director can leverage resources defined outside its host vSphere environment?

  All used 'resources' must be inside a vCenter server, and all objects must be contained within a single "Data center" object in the hierarchy.

  > LM (2) done must be hosted in a specific vSphere environment to effectively exploit the scene-to-production in this environment vSphere features? In other words, what is the impact to the staging functionality when you move a virtual machine from a workspace of LM to a VSphere environment that does not host the environment of LM?

  If the vCenter for production is not the same as Lab Manager, you must export the Configuration of LM in an SMB share (requires a classic ESX host in the middle of LM), and then import it to the appropriate location.

  I did not notice problems with Lab Manager VMs-by-side with use of regular production.  Just separate the ESX hosts in a dedicated Cluster or a Pool of resources.

  Kind regards

  Jon Hemming, b.SC., RHCT, VMware vExpert 2009
  http://Twitter.com/vJonHemming

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• I can point my Lab Manager 4.0.2 to point to another new vCenter Server?

  Hi guys,.

  I have a client with a LM4.0.2 production and we are considering moving to one another new/a vCenter server.

  It is important to note that the new vCenter will NOT have the same DB or FULL of the old domain name. It's a completely different vCenter with other ESX hosts.

  Now the questions:

  Can I redirect my Lab Manager (VM) at the new vcenter without any problem?

  What of the ESX (resource) on the old vcenter?

  Is it possible to do this without downtime for laboratories? If this is not the case, how can I minimize downtime? cancel the deployment will be enough?

  Does anyone have this done successfully?

  Any comments would be much appreciated.

  Eyal

  etamir,

  There are some excellent discussions within this forum on the same topic.  I strongly suggest to read first, and I'll see if I can find an example.

  Before going further, data warehouses used in the new vCenter/ESX environment will be exactly the same as the current one?  If you want to keep all of your configurations, I need to know that the UUID of the LUN does not change during this process.

  Can I redirect my Lab Manager (VM) at the new vcenter without any problem?

  You can change the IP/domain FULL name vCenter in the settings section of the Lab Manager site... now on the problems that could result.

  You will need to remove anything from the GUI of Lab Manager that has to do with the current vCenter (unedploy, unprepare host esx, resource pools, configurations etc.).  There will be more on this in the dedicated thread

  What of the ESX (resource) on the old vcenter?

  ESX doesn't really matter, it's the data UUID store that matters.  ESX is just virtual machines.  Note: you'll want to throw all States/suspend points on the VMS where processors are different on the ESX hosts.

  > Is it possible to do this without downtime for laboratories?

  No, there will be a form any downtime.  Either that LM site will be useless (no resources with Betclic, consoles will does not work until the guests are prepared, etc.).

  > If not, how can I reduce downtime? cancel the deployment will be enough?

  Yes, to cancel the deployment of will help... but there will be some lag as you reconfigure Manager of laboratory to use the new vCenter.

  > Has anyone successfully done this?

  Yes.  I saw others to do this.

  Subjects in the sample: http://communities.vmware.com/message/1592762

  Kind regards

  Jon Hemming, b.SC., RHCT, VMware vExpert 2009
  http://Twitter.com/vJonHemming

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• Import the virtual machine template in vCenter Lab Manager?

  Hello

  I want to import a virtual computer model in vCenter Lab Manager. I can import the whole machine, but how to import from a certain snapshot?

  Rizwan

  Yes, then you will need to "reach" the point manually before cloning each point.

  Kind regards

  Jonathan

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