Re: Satellite U400-112 - BIOS update error

Hello

I have a Satellite U400-112 with Windows 7-64 bit OS. I can't upgrade my system v4.00 to v4.70 since windows or DOS.

Specifically, when the upgrade starts according to the file and then check it stucks without any progress. This error means the two versions (DOS & Windows).
I have a strong feeling that is a corrupted bios file. If someone can justify my feeling or a good file BIOS it is asked to answer.

Thank you in advance,

Ioannis

Hey Buddy,

Update the BIOS of BACK is not possible because the updates are only based on the Windows.
In any case, what update BIOS error that you get exactly?

If you try to update, make sure that the value added package is installed. That s necessary for the program to update the BIOS.

But why do you want to update? Normally it of not necessary if your system works ok.

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    11/09/2001 12:01 967 tosclean2.pif
    2002-06-21 11:34 toscleanAUTO2.bat 1 841
    2002-06-21 11:44 toscleanSMS2.bat 1 796
    2002-06-21 08:51 2 038 tosntclean2.bat
    2002-06-21 08:51 2 084 tosntcleanAUTO2.bat
    2002-06-21 08:52 2 038 tosntcleanSMS2.bat
    Archivos of 20 bytes, 1 046 461
    2 dirs 9,402,781,696 bytes free

    * {color: #ff0000} they have two 20 files and 1 046 461 bytes. I asumed that they are the SAME two folder {color} *.

    And the readme file does not list the model 1410-604 in its readme file, so I can't explain it except as a Toshiba error. * {color: #ff0000} they put an incorrect BIOS on their website and has proposed updating and somehow lead to such mistakes. {color} *.

    (Except in the case that one of these models is a name that is different from the model 1410-604, and if that's the case... now I don't know why this BIOS do not work with this computer).

    The worst thing is that neither the other files (V1.10, 1.20 and 1.30) lists the 1410-604, apparently so no solution possible workaround for this problem. I need an original v1.20 to the CMOS, and Toshiba seems to have. They offered me to solve the problem, leaving the laptop to an ASP, and pay only € 95 for the work and about € 280 for a motherboard replacement, I will get it resolved. But they offer no guarantees of their possibilities because is a model "too old" and "abandoned" and "unsupported"...

    In other words, they said 'you don't have to bother with it, just go and buy a new' (something of quite out of my reach in this time of crisis): P

    Thanks for reading so far.

    Now, what I need is to get ideas on a work around for this, my ideas are:

    (1) the CMOS has some startup that works (it allows a roll-back if you have the appropriate file). So I need a good BIOS to burn in the CMOS memory, the SAME SAME model (a backup BIOS) but the backup should be sufficient for the burning program (CHGBIOSA.COM).

    (2) it is always possible that the BIOS might be OK, but the CMOS data has been corrupted somehow. If so, the CMOS of compensation could solve problem. But I wasn't able to find a clear cmos from the outside button, and after disasembling I took battery, with no good result. I try to leave the MOBO without battery for a period more long (I left it about 20 seconds) just in case where 20 seconds are not all capacitors for well pass zero values. I don't have a lot of hope in this point.

    (3) try to get a REAL good update from Toshiba. I contacted technical support several times, and I was able to verify that they are only - phone operators, with a script in front of them, and when the problem is going - out of reach, they fall in the same response: "you must go to an ASP. I still have a faint hope to find someone who really knows a little and could illuminate with a good BIOS in this disc.

    (4) as far as I could find, this BIOS is not any BIOS-manufacturer known. It seems that it has been developed by Toshiba (own brand), so the Phoenix crisis recovery disk won't be of any help here. As well as any other BIOS recovery tool not designed for Toshiba BIOS. But I'm open to all ideas, which could be put to the test more or less safely. (Remember that the 'BIOS-BOOT-PART' feature still works, I don't want to lose that possibility alone of redemption).

    Wwwaaaaoooowww... what a falks long post! Sorry about that!

    Forgive me, but I wanted to be really clear.

    Someone give some tips or advice will be greatly appreciated.

    Please don't say that I shouldn't be doing... I already know that. I already did some research and found my mistakes, not to repeat them. Now, I need to spend, to move and to try to solve this problem, or at least learn to solve similar things. As much as possible.

    Thank you once again, in advance, and sorry again.

    FenixDigital

    Post edited by: Fenix_D
    Modified subject to beter reflect what the problem is (apparently erroneous file BIOS in Toshiba Download Center).

    Hi Fenix,

    Wow... He tooked a lot of time to read your post...

    Maybe I can help you.

    The Bios in the website is the right one. If you have downloaded the right version of the Bios.

    Toshiba America, which has most of the time the Askiris you used isn't accurate models for Toshiba Europe.
    This should be the reason, why does not the readme file contain the European model.

    I'll try to do an update of the fresh Bios using the update of the traditional Bios.

    Copy the files on the disk, put it in the floppy drive, press and hold power on the notebook tab.
    After that the laptop is off, press on and hold the key on the left side of space power on the laptop new bar and wait until it turns off again.

    If your laptop does not power perhaps the most, the RAM is default?

    Therefore, if the use of the traditional Bios or change memory doesn't help, and your laptop is still dead you should go to a SPA, but it will cost money.

    I now have my fourth Toshiba laptop and I had never problems with the Bios updates.

    The 1410 is very old I think, so before you go to a SPA, I'd buy a new ;)

    Best regards

    Maurice

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